Hollywood Actor Jussie Smollett Facing Prison Time

B0jangles · 29-03-2019 11:44am

It's hardly a precedent - look at Jacob Wohl - he's repeatedly tried to fake crimes, including one where he attempted to implicate Mueller as a rapist and he hasn't even been arrested.

Money talks louder than the law in the U.S.

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/30/18044110/robert-mueller-jacob-wohl-jack-burkman-surefire
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/10/jacob-wohl-robert-mueller-sexual-assault-allegations
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/11/jacob-wohl-s-cack-handed-attempt-smear-mueller-undoubtedly-funny-it

Boggles · 29-03-2019 11:46am

take everything wrote: »

Not to mention setting a precedent for this kind of stunt.

Yeah, but it isn't a precedent is it?

Baggly · 29-03-2019 5:13pm

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Zorya · 29-03-2019 5:21pm

Don't know if this was posted here but Smollett is also up for a NAACP Image Award this Saturday. And the presenter of the show has said he hopes Smollett wins.

''The NAACP Image Award is an annual awards ceremony presented by the U.S.-based National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) to honor outstanding performances in film, television, music, and literature.''

Honestly I can't tell what is the truth in this whole story. At first I thought it is a complete scam he has pulled, not to mention an inverted hate crime, but with the absolute brazen response and so on, like as if nothing has happened, it all seems quite odd. Is this the new thing? Not just to wait for the attention span to dwindle but to actually pretend what seems to be the truth is not real? Meh, I'm confused.

29-03-2019 5:23pm

Zorya wrote: »

Don't know if this was posted here but Smollett is also up for a NAACP Image Award this Saturday. And the presenter of the show has said he hopes Smollett wins.

''The NAACP Image Award is an annual awards ceremony presented by the U.S.-based National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) to honor outstanding performances in film, television, music, and literature.''

Honestly I can't tell what is the truth in this whole story. At first I thought it is a complete scam he has pulled, not to mention an inverted hate crime, but with the absolute brazen response and so on, like as if nothing has happened, it all seems quite odd. Is this the new thing? Not just to wait for the attention span to dwindle but to actually pretend what seems to be the truth is not real? Meh, I'm confused.

If this guy wins an award, I officially give up.

I'm starting to understand what these youngsters mean when they say "I can't even..."

LessOutragePlz · 29-03-2019 9:01pm

Great breakdown of how the charges got dropped.

Justice for some but not for all.

Sand · 29-03-2019 9:06pm

Zorya wrote: »

Don't know if this was posted here but Smollett is also up for a NAACP Image Award this Saturday. And the presenter of the show has said he hopes Smollett wins.

''The NAACP Image Award is an annual awards ceremony presented by the U.S.-based National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) to honor outstanding performances in film, television, music, and literature.''

Honestly I can't tell what is the truth in this whole story. At first I thought it is a complete scam he has pulled, not to mention an inverted hate crime, but with the absolute brazen response and so on, like as if nothing has happened, it all seems quite odd. Is this the new thing? Not just to wait for the attention span to dwindle but to actually pretend what seems to be the truth is not real? Meh, I'm confused.

It is to demonstrate power and to demoralise opponents. To show that Smollett can do this and there is absolutely no consequence. It might be an overreach, too much, too soon, but there is perversely additional cause for him to receive the reward just to show that they can.

The Highwayman · 29-03-2019 11:19pm

Sand wrote: »

It is to demonstrate power and to demoralise opponents. To show that Smollett can do this and there is absolutely no consequence. It might be an overreach, too much, too soon, but there is perversely additional cause for him to receive the reward just to show that they can.

Exactly. Its simply a power play from the left. He can do this and still with the possibility of a second investigation they simply give him an award. Circle the wagons and hand out the free pass. The double standards is stunning.

Zorya · 29-03-2019 11:26pm

Sand wrote: »

It is to demonstrate power and to demoralise opponents. To show that Smollett can do this and there is absolutely no consequence. It might be an overreach, too much, too soon, but there is perversely additional cause for him to receive the reward just to show that they can.

Can see what you are saying but to go there for me would veer towards conspiratorial thinking which makes me wary. Whose power? Who are they? That kind of thing. Though it is all very strange. Is there a possibility that he was not involved in organising the attack?

Sand · 29-03-2019 11:32pm

The Highwayman wrote: »

Exactly. Its simply a power play from the left. He can do this and still with the possibility of a second investigation they simply give him an award. Circle the wagons and hand out the free pass. The double standards is stunning.

I think its incorrect to view this as double standards, or hypocrisy. This implies there is some principle in play that everyone is to be treated equally and held to the same standards. There simply is not.

If a white American actor had faked a racist hate crime upon themselves, they would be held to account for the damage this would do to non-white Americans. At the very least, they would be ostracised. A black American actor has faked a racist hate crime and they will not be held to account for the damage this has done to white Americans. If anything, the notoriety earned from the failed attempt to demonise white Americans will benefit them. The difference is not the action, it is the perpetrator, and by extension the victim.

The defenders of Smollett are not being hypocritical. They are being entirely consistent. You cannot embarrass them by pointing out a hypocrisy to a standard they do not recognise. They do not interpret the action. They interpret the actor. The same people will argue that the next US president should be non-white, but equally be outraged that anyone should argue that the next US president should be white. Four legs good. Two legs bad.

Sand · 29-03-2019 11:39pm

Zorya wrote: »

Can see what you are saying but to go there for me would veer towards conspiratorial thinking which makes me wary. Whose power? Who are they? That kind of thing. Though it is all very strange. Is there a possibility that he was not involved in organising the attack?

There is no need for conspiracy. Just mob mentality. People go where they see the power accumulating. Look at post-independance Ireland. Suddenly the GPO became the Tardis given how many claim their granddad was there in 1916.

enfant terrible · 30-03-2019 4:52pm

Zorya wrote: »

Honestly I can't tell what is the truth in this whole story. At first I thought it is a complete scam he has pulled, not to mention an inverted hate crime, but with the absolute brazen response and so on, like as if nothing has happened, it all seems quite odd. Is this the new thing? Not just to wait for the attention span to dwindle but to actually pretend what seems to be the truth is not real? Meh, I'm confused.

It's not complicated, the Smollett family are friendly with Michelle Obama.

Tina Tchen, Michelle Obama's former Chief of Staff contacted State's Attorney Kim Foxx, asked her to help Smollett out and she obliged.

It's all detailed here
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/jussie-smollett-tina-tchen/index.html

weldoninhio · 30-03-2019 4:56pm

Pter wrote: »

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nacho libre · 30-03-2019 8:05pm

declan2693 wrote: »

Ah yes once its a liberal doing these acts its grand but if a conservative does your all up in arms.

Anyone, whether they support far right views, or espouse left wing views, should be of the view that this man is a utter scumbag for doing this. The fact he referenced his mother to pedal yet more lies is disgusting. Why does he not demand an apology if he is so innocent. He's a cretin.

mad muffin · 30-03-2019 8:56pm

Do you remember the LA riots?

Frank O. Pinion · 12-04-2019 9:10am

The city of Chicago are suing him.

Variety.com wrote:

The Empire actor continues to maintain his innocence, and refused the city's demand to pay the police overtime costs. The Chicago Police Department calculates that 1,836 hours of overtime were expended in the search for Smollett's attackers, costing taxpayers $130,106.15. Under a city ordinance, the city is entitled to recoup three times its total damages, or about $390,000. The city will also seek unspecified attorneys' fees and costs, as well as a $1,000 fine for each false statement to the police.

https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/chicago-sues-jussie-smollett-hate-crime-probe-1203187475/

jeremyj1968 · 23-04-2019 6:58pm

Well this is the gift that just keeps on giving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UHweHUo7RI

The Osundairo brothers are suing Jussie's lawyer for defamation! Let's see what the Obama's can pull out of their hat this time.

Autecher · 24-05-2019 3:15pm

The documents from this whole investigation will be unsealed on June 3rd. Jussie and his lawyers wanted them to stay sealed to protect his privacy but the judge said in his ruling:
“Smollett voluntarily appeared on national television speaking about the incident in detail. “After the March 26 dismissal, he voluntarily stood in front of cameras from numerous news organizations in the courthouse lobby and spoke about the case. These are not the actions of a person seeking to maintain his privacy or simply be let alone.”

Well done Judge Steven Watkins.

https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/smollett-unsealing-order.pdf

Autecher · 06-06-2019 5:23pm

Some of the documents have been released, some details from The Hollywood Reporter. Jussie Smollett is legit crazy.

"The first batch of documents, including the police case file, was unsealed by a judge after FOIA requests by multiple media outlets, including The Hollywood Reporter. The DA’s office released several hundred pages of text messages, emails and court documents.
Among other revelations, the documents provide new details about Smollett’s attempts to procure drugs from Abimbola and Olabinjo Osundairo, the two brothers who helped him stage and carry out the hoax hate crime.
“N***a you still got a molly connect,” Smollett texted to one of the brothers in September, a few months before the alleged hoax. “Hahahaha… Imma need a good fo pills Haha.”
Police files indicate that Smollett paid the brothers repeatedly via Venmo and Paypal for ecstasy, cocaine and marijuana in February, in the days leading up to the staged attack.
They also reveal a more detailed portrait of the communications between the three men to plan and carry out the hoax. Smollett asked the brothers to meet “face to face” to discuss plans. Police records indicate these details were “corroborated on video and by GPS data.”
According to redacted police records, Smollett had a “planning meeting” with the two brothers, during which they set the time and details of the attack. Olabinjo Osundairo later told police he deliberately tried not to harm Smollett during the purported attack, only going so far as to rub his knuckles into the actors face to make it look bruised.
Smollett allegedly feared that the other brother, Abimbola, might hurt him and asked him not to participate in the staged beating. According to one released document, one brother was afraid to escalate the confrontation for fear of being shot by police, further strengthening the allegation that Smollett lied."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/do-new-documents-derail-jussie-smolletts-chance-at-comeback-1215243

Calhoun · 06-06-2019 11:45pm

I think he is done for now, will be interested to see if he takes down the DA with him.

Autecher · 25-06-2019 4:28pm

More details have been released about this.

Bodycam footage from 2 police officers the morning after the "attack". Jussie is still wearing the noose several hours after he claimed it was forced on him.

And video of the Osundairo brothers in a taxi on the way to commit the "crime". They got a taxi wearing hazmat suits which I got a good chuckle from.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-48754989

Calhoun · 25-06-2019 4:52pm

Not looking good for him or the prosecutor.

mad muffin · 25-06-2019 5:07pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhSOUkdYM7I

Cienciano · 25-06-2019 5:21pm

Well, he definitely got noticed.

splashuum · 12-02-2020 12:19am

Jussie indicted

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/11/us/jussie-smollett-indictment/index.html

1800_Ladladlad · 12-02-2020 12:40am

Good! F*ck'em. He should change his name to karma, cause it keeps coming back to him.

Bio Mech · 12-02-2020 12:52am

The lead investigators name, Dan.k Webb, sounds like an even dodgier version of the dark web.

Not sickened enough by the darkest depths of the dark web? Well try the dank web.