Lidl Jump-start Power Bank with Compressor - 69.99

adm · 27-09-2018 9:34am #1

Has anyone got one of these? Do they work on a totally flat car battery?

https://www.lidl.ie/en/special-offers.htm?articleId=12231

Invincible · 27-09-2018 9:44am

adm wrote: »

Has anyone got one of these? Do they work on a totally flat car battery?

https://www.lidl.ie/en/special-offers.htm?articleId=12231

You'll need to check if its output is sufficient if you have a diesel engine, which needs more amps to start.

ectoraige · 27-09-2018 10:06am

According to this ad for one on Ebay, it's suitable for petrol engines up to 2000cc and diesels up to 1600cc. If the car battery is fully discharged though, the starter would struggle at the higher end.

If you're just looking for a starter which should work for pretty much any car/van you'd probably want to look for around 500A, like this one on Amazon UK, with parcel motel it'll be around the same price, but there's no compressor.

27-09-2018 10:13am

Also, these have to be charged up pretty frequently or the battery will go bad.

blastman · 27-09-2018 12:59pm

ectoraige wrote: »

According to this ad for one on Ebay, it's suitable for petrol engines up to 2000cc and diesels up to 1600cc. If the car battery is fully discharged though, the starter would struggle at the higher end.

If you're just looking for a starter which should work for pretty much any car/van you'd probably want to look for around 500A, like this one on Amazon UK, with parcel motel it'll be around the same price, but there's no compressor.

This won't ship to the PM address. Most of these devices on Amazon won't due to restrictions on shipping batteries.

blastman · 27-09-2018 1:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Also, these have to be charged up pretty frequently or the battery will go bad.

These devices use Li-Ion batteries so they aren't like the older bulky chargers that did need to be recharged every month or so.

Dades · 27-09-2018 1:08pm

They do go flat though. I have a similar one and went to help a mate about three months after buying it (and charging it) and it was dead.

Still great to have if you keep it charged.

ectoraige · 27-09-2018 3:27pm

blastman wrote: »

This won't ship to the PM address. Most of these devices on Amazon won't due to restrictions on shipping batteries.

I forgot about that.

As it happens, google ads threw up Suaoki, I'd had a look at them before as I was looking for a jump starter previously and it's the one I was going to buy at the time. They have a decent enough reputation and they ship to the UK with no distinction between NI and mainland. However, they do use Amazon for some of their shipping so maybe NI is actually excluded, but it seems to allow you to place the order.

They do free shipping so OP get a 400A starter and a 10-bar compressor delivered to PM for €69.17

ohnonotgmail · 27-09-2018 3:46pm

blastman wrote: »

This won't ship to the PM address. Most of these devices on Amazon won't due to restrictions on shipping batteries.

I bought this https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XBGPGKS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and had no issue getting it shipped to ireland.

Kristopherus · 27-09-2018 3:50pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I bought this https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XBGPGKS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and had no issue getting it shipped to ireland.

It says on that page that "This item does not ship to Ireland" Riddle me that:D.

ohnonotgmail · 27-09-2018 4:00pm

Kristopherus wrote: »

It says on that page that "This item does not ship to Ireland" Riddle me that:D.

Ah well. they did when i bought mine

blastman · 27-09-2018 4:07pm

ectoraige wrote: »

I forgot about that.

They do free shipping so OP get a 400A starter and a 10-bar compressor delivered to PM for €69.17

Plus the PM charge

Thanks for that, though, I might go for this charger instead of the Lidl one, looks to be a neater job.

ectoraige · 27-09-2018 7:05pm

blastman wrote: »

Plus the PM charge

Thanks for that, though, I might go for this charger instead of the Lidl one, looks to be a neater job.

They have a couple of different chargers on their site, only reason I don't end up buying was funds so I'd be interested in what they are like and if there's any problems shipping. They have a smaller compressor too, not as powerful but very tidy looking.

ozmo · 28-09-2018 1:51am

What about this one... was thinking getting one myself...

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Heavy-Duty-12000mAh-Portable-Car-Emergency-Charger-Jump-Starter-USB-Power-Bank-M/142680116667?hash=item213865cdbb:g:eogAAOSww7RbPyDN

blastman · 28-09-2018 10:16am

ectoraige wrote: »

They have a couple of different chargers on their site, only reason I don't end up buying was funds so I'd be interested in what they are like and if there's any problems shipping. They have a smaller compressor too, not as powerful but very tidy looking.

Ordered the starter yesterday, I'll keep you posted.

blastman · 03-10-2018 10:16am

blastman wrote: »

Ordered the starter yesterday, I'll keep you posted.

Starter was in my Parcel Motel locker last night, very impressive delivery from the US! Nice neat device, fits into a back pocket comfortably and seems to be well put together. Haven't tried to start any cars with it yet, but for 20 quid less than the one Lidl were selling (allbeit without the compressor that one has), it looks like a good deal.

Dades · 03-10-2018 10:45am

If I were you I'd test it before you need it.

I bought one from Amazon last year and it just didn't work - no . Had to send it back.

unkel · 03-10-2018 11:27am

blastman wrote: »

Starter was in my Parcel Motel locker last night, very impressive delivery from the US! Nice neat device, fits into a back pocket comfortably and seems to be well put together. Haven't tried to start any cars with it yet

Looks like a neat device but I am skeptical about performance. Capacity is tiny with only 8Ah, that's just a bit more than twice that of a decent mobile phone

I'd say it would need recharging pretty much after every time you jump start a car with it

unkel · 03-10-2018 11:40am

Also there are better options from that link.

This one has the same 400A peak but has 12Ah (50% more) capacity and is only $44.99

Linky

And this one has a huge 800A peak and 15Ah for only $69.99

Linky

Shipment is free, right? I have to say I'm tempted...

ohnonotgmail · 03-10-2018 11:45am

unkel wrote: »

Also there are better options from that link.

This one has the same 400A peak but has 12Ah (50% more) capacity and is only $44.99

Linky

And this one has a huge 800A peak and 15Ah for only $69.99

Linky

Shipment is free, right? I have to say I'm tempted...

The US plug version is 69.99. When you select UK plug the price goes to 99.99

unkel · 03-10-2018 11:48am

Found it on Amazon UK as well. £59.99 for the 800A / 15Ah one with free shipping and that unbeatable Amazon warranty. Very tempted to pull the trigger

Linky

ohnonotgmail · 03-10-2018 11:52am

unkel wrote: »

Found it on Amazon UK as well. £59.99 for the 800A / 15Ah one with free shipping and that unbeatable Amazon warranty. Very tempted to pull the trigger

Linky

amazon wont ship that to ireland. It says so on the right hand side.

unkel · 03-10-2018 11:58am

Yes, just found out

They won't ship them to Northern Ireland (Parcel Motel) either. I guess that is because of the lithium batteries.

Ordering from the US seems to work though, blastman received his.

ohnonotgmail · 03-10-2018 12:00pm

unkel wrote: »

Yes, just found out

They won't ship them to Northern Ireland (Parcel Motel) either. I guess that is because of the lithium batteries.

Ordering from the US seems to work though, blastman received his.

what about addresspal? that uses a uk mainland address

ectoraige · 03-10-2018 12:06pm

blastman wrote: »

Starter was in my Parcel Motel locker last night, very impressive delivery from the US! Nice neat device, fits into a back pocket comfortably and seems to be well put together. Haven't tried to start any cars with it yet, but for 20 quid less than the one Lidl were selling (allbeit without the compressor that one has), it looks like a good deal.

Now just leave your lights on overnight and tell us how well it work :pac:

Good to know it was delivered promptly and without issue.

unkel · 03-10-2018 12:22pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what about addresspal? that uses a uk mainland address

Yeah that's working, thanks for the tip, hadn't setup with Addresspal before. Handy to have

Now to decide which one to get!

blastman · 03-10-2018 12:44pm

unkel wrote: »

Also there are better options from that link.

This one has the same 400A peak but has 12Ah (50% more) capacity and is only $44.99

Linky

And this one has a huge 800A peak and 15Ah for only $69.99

Linky

Shipment is free, right? I have to say I'm tempted...

First one you linked doesn't ship to the UK and there's no option for a UK plug. This might be an issue as it doesn't look like it uses a micro-USB connection to charge itself. Second one looks good but way more than I need, plus you'd probably have to order the UK plug for the same reason, making it a bit pricey.

unkel · 03-10-2018 12:48pm

Amazon UK has similar prices as the ones from the US with the US plug (so a lot cheaper than the ones with the UK plug), comes with a UK plug and ships to UK mainland for free (plus a €3.75 Addresspal charge). And that Amazon warranty!

I know where I will be getting mine

unkel · 03-10-2018 11:03pm

Picked up this earlier for £21.99 incl. shipping on a lightning deal. Had to set myself up for Addresspal for a UK mainland address (thanks ohnonotgmail

) which adds €3.75 to that.

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Linky

Read reviews online and it gets favourable reviews, very similar to the other make similar spec but far more expensive ones mentioned here. I already have a cigarette lighter compressor

And if it goes bang / is not up to scratch, it will go straight back to Amazon (freepost) for a full refund. Can't go wrong here really

Esel · 04-10-2018 12:13am

I'd go for a higher power one...

unkel · 04-10-2018 12:18am

Higher power as in higher max amps? 400A is supposed to be sufficient for a 2.5l petrol car according to the specs

I'll be using it for 20 year old car with a 2.5l flat 6 engine and for a 32 year old car with a 2.6l straight 6 engine, both only occasionally driven and both with a battery that is far from brand new / perfect. If it ain't up to scratch, it'll go back. I reckon it will be ok, but I expect to charge it up fully after each successful jumpstart

What car / engine are you planning to use it for?

Dades · 04-10-2018 11:35am

unkel wrote: »

both with a battery that is far from brand new / perfect.

unkel - I thought you knew the worth of a decent battery!

unkel · 04-10-2018 11:50am

Oh, I do! The lessons learnt the hard way (sometimes even going against more experienced people's advice) are the best lessons, aren't they?

The batteries aren't 100% but they are still fine. But when the children play in the car and leave a light on and the car hasn't been started for several weeks anyway, hoping it will still start is just asking a little bit too much.

torrevieja · 04-10-2018 9:12pm

i got this it says ireland website but it was posted from UK,

https://www.eurocarparts.com/en_ie/ecpie/p/car-accessories/car-accessories-products/emergency-and-breakdown/booster-pack/?550994070&&cc5_824

BionicRasher · 04-10-2018 9:25pm

Purchased a battery pack a few months ago (link below) as the kids have left the door of the car or interior lights on a few times which has required the AA to call and start the car.

It's a great yolk. Started a 2.0l diesel car last week without issue.
Bought through AddressPal as it won't ship to Ireland.
Will be purchasing another for the parents soon.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y62KHSS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_cyNTBbEB19NWV

Thammer · 04-10-2018 9:32pm

What's the jist of using these gadgets , without straying too far OT

unkel · 04-10-2018 9:42pm

Thammer wrote: »

What's the jist of using these gadgets , without straying too far OT

Battery dead, car won't start. Connect this gadget to the battery, and car should start

Thammer · 04-10-2018 9:48pm

unkel wrote: »

Battery dead, car won't start. Connect this gadget to the battery, and car should start

Yea ok can you elaborate slightly

unkel · 04-10-2018 9:57pm

It's like jump starting your car with jump cables connecting your car to another car. With this gadget you don't need the other car. You can jump start yourself.

Leo Demidov · 04-10-2018 11:13pm

Isn't there a variation that allows you to jump start car via your cigarette lighter socket? No need to connect to battery direct, I remember seeing them a few years ago.

ectoraige · 05-10-2018 6:47am

wexfjord wrote: »

Isn't there a variation that allows you to jump start car via your cigarette lighter socket? No need to connect to battery direct, I remember seeing them a few years ago.

The cigarette socket is protected by a 10/20A fuse, starters can draw anything between 200-800A depending on the size of the engine. You'd just blow the fuse and possibly melt some wiring.

What you're thinking of are devices that slowly recharge the battery and then you start your car normally using your own battery. They can take over 30 minutes to charge and rely on the battery being able to hold enough charge to start the engine.

corks finest · 05-10-2018 8:55am

unkel wrote: »

It's like jump starting your car with jump cables connecting your car to another car. With this gadget you don't need the other car. You can jump start yourself.

Imagine jumping yourself,,,,,new one

Esel · 05-10-2018 10:41am

unkel wrote: »

Higher power as in higher max amps? 400A is supposed to be sufficient for a 2.5l petrol car according to the specs

I'll be using it for 20 year old car with a 2.5l flat 6 engine and for a 32 year old car with a 2.6l straight 6 engine, both only occasionally driven and both with a battery that is far from brand new / perfect. If it ain't up to scratch, it'll go back. I reckon it will be ok, but I expect to charge it up fully after each successful jumpstart

What car / engine are you planning to use it for?

If buying, I would get something like an earlier one you linked but cheaper if possible

.

unkel wrote: »

Found it on Amazon UK as well. £59.99 for the 800A / 15Ah one with free shipping and that unbeatable Amazon warranty. Very tempted to pull the trigger

Linky

I like the idea of more power in reserve.

unkel · 05-10-2018 10:46am

Esel wrote: »

I like the idea of more power in reserve.

Yeah so do I. But I don't like the idea of spending £60 when £20 will do the job just as well. If my yoke isn't up to scratch, it will go back to Amazon for a full refund and I'll buy the heavy duty one.

Dades · 05-10-2018 11:29am

Thammer wrote: »

Yea ok can you elaborate slightly

Battery jumper thing comes with red and black clips (like one end of jump leads).

Open your bonnet, hook the red to the + terminal of your battery, and the black one to the - bit.
Turn the battery pack on (there may be an indicator light to say it's connected right).
Start your car! Leave the engine running and just disconnect the starer thing.

Might be worthwhile checking you car to see where the battery is, an if you can access both terminals (+ and -).

My missis drives a Citroen and for her the battery might as well be in Narnia as trying to access it. I can just about get to the positive terminal, and apparently there's points in the engine bay that work as negative terminals. Messy, but as long as you know in advance you can be prepared.

unkel · 05-10-2018 11:53am

Dades wrote: »

Open your bonnet, hook the red to the + terminal of your battery, and the black one to the - bit.

That will work, but is not good practice. Connecting the black one to the - bit on the battery can cause a flammable gas leak (hydrogen) :eek:

You need to connect the black one to any metal preferably unpainted chassis point of the car

Kenny Logins · 05-10-2018 12:27pm

unkel wrote: »

That will work, but is not good practice. Connecting the black one to the - bit on the battery can cause a flammable gas leak (hydrogen) :eek:

You need to connect the black one to any metal preferably unpainted chassis point of the car

It doesn't cause a leak, you just do that to move the spark away from the battery in case there already is a leak.

Thammer · 05-10-2018 1:08pm

I'll probably get the 15Ah one from Amazon for £60

I'm presuming if you left this in the car over the winter you'd want to insulate it or would the case suffice

Thammer · 05-10-2018 1:24pm

I'm fitting a new car battery so will keep the old one topped up as a backup for the winter as well

I think I'd sooner have a spare battery ready at the house than a power pack

ozmo · 05-10-2018 1:40pm

Thammer wrote: »

I think I'd sooner have a spare battery ready at the house than a power pack

No use though if you get a flat battery after leaving car at airport for a couple weeks (which happened to me this year)

Having said that - the guys at the Airport had a free battery charging service going - so that was handy...

unkel · 05-10-2018 1:52pm

Thammer wrote: »

I think I'd sooner have a spare battery ready at the house than a power pack

Yep always good to have a spare around

ozmo wrote: »

No use though if you get a flat battery after leaving car at airport for a couple weeks (which happened to me this year)

When the battery of one of my cars was going a bit dodgy, I kept a spare battery and jump leads in the boot

Lidl Jump-start Power Bank with Compressor - 69.99

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