Pumps.ie

scotchy · 26-08-2019 4:32pm

Lord Nikon wrote: »

Diesel in D4Fuels is currently 125c a litre. Nowhere cheaper than that in Dublin at the moment.

I bought Diesel there for a while, but noticed lowering in performance. Stopped using it for a while and went back again, thinking i was imagining it, did this a few times. Always noticed an issue.

Haven't been back to it in a while.

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Qgravs · 02-09-2019 10:36am

Several people had bought domain names and offered them and at least one person indicated that he was building a replacement for pumps.ie. But here we are months later with no replacement. Anyone out there got the ability and willingness to help us all out by building a replacement? We would all be most grateful to you!

gussieg · 02-09-2019 10:43am

if anyone knew who was behind pumps.ie maybe they could help? i did get a domain, cost about a fiver, but hosting costs more again, unless you have a server big enough and all the bandwith necessary to cope with traffic, and i'm not a coder, so there is that. could be crowd funded or something.

vectra · 02-09-2019 10:44am

gussieg wrote: »

if anyone knew who was behind pumps.ie maybe they could help? i did get a domain, cost about a fiver, but hosting costs more again, unless you have a server big enough and all the bandwith necessary to cope with traffic, and i'm not a coder, so there is that. could be crowd funded or something.

Or make it app based with a 99c charge to download the app?

Del2005 · 02-09-2019 10:45am

Qgravs wrote: »

Several people had bought domain names and offered them and at least one person indicated that he was building a replacement for pumps.ie. But here we are months later with no replacement. Anyone out there got the ability and willingness to help us all out by building a replacement? We would all be most grateful to you!

Waze has fuel prices. Not as easy to use as pumps.ie but looks like the best option available, just need more people to update prices

marcos_94 · 02-09-2019 10:47am

Qgravs wrote: »

Several people had bought domain names and offered them and at least one person indicated that he was building a replacement for pumps.ie. But here we are months later with no replacement. Anyone out there got the ability and willingness to help us all out by building a replacement? We would all be most grateful to you!

SweetCaliber wrote: »

Just to let everyone know that I am actively developing a revamped version of Pumps.ie at the moment. I'm doing this in my spare time so can't give an estimated date when it will be live but I will keep you updated.

If anyone has any time to spare and has experience in Node.js, Mongo, Handlebars, Express then I'd appreciate any help.

Any features you'd like to see give me a PM and I'd happily add them to the list.

SweetCaliber wrote: »

Hiya,

Currently doing nights in work and sleeping during the day for the next 3 weeks so will only be working on it in free time when off. Things are progressing well just slowly at the moment!

SweetCaliber has actually been posting updates and already said they dont know how long it will take but has posted some screen shots into how it will look. Be patient

02-09-2019 11:00am

mikeecho wrote: »

Fuel prices in Ireland are generally fairly stable.
Go to the UK and see a 12p premium on motorways, here it's only an extra few cent.

And go to Germany, prices vary throughout the day at local stations, and don't go near a petrol station on the autobahn. Massive price swings throughout the day and God help you if you need to fuel to on a bank holiday.

I pulled into one ARAL on the autobahn on my way back to the sixt desk and it was almost 30c more than what I had passed at the start of my journey that day.

I left that ARAL and find an AGIP closer to my destination off the autobahn and filled up there, for 25c,/l cheaper than the ARAL.

The one for thing about Ireland is that fuel prices stay stable, they generally don't bounce up and down for rush hour or b/h weekends.

Canada is hilarious too. Was in a small city and when the price changes it starts on one side of town and makes its way to the other side over the day. One day it jumped 10c for no discernible reason and people literally drove to the far end to fill up.

Qgravs · 02-09-2019 12:33pm

marcos_94 wrote: »

SweetCaliber has actually been posting updates and already said they dont know how long it will take but has posted some screen shots into how it will look. Be patient

Thanks for this, actually that user said that it would take a few more days for him to finish. That was two months ago and the thread had died. I referred to him in my original post. But two months since he said it was nearly finished and spring since pumps.ie stopped working. Hence my reason for posting. At least some people have posted today and maybe someone out there has the skills to either help that person or develop a new app. I’d happily pay for the app and I’m sure lots of others would too. Look how much money the daft founders earned. If I’d got the necessary knowledge I’d happily do it myself. So I ask again, anyone got the skills and enthusiasm and entrepreneurship?

SweetCaliber · 02-09-2019 5:59pm

Qgravs wrote: »

Thanks for this, actually that user said that it would take a few more days for him to finish. That was two months ago and the thread had died. I referred to him in my original post. But two months since he said it was nearly finished and spring since pumps.ie stopped working. Hence my reason for posting. At least some people have posted today and maybe someone out there has the skills to either help that person or develop a new app. I’d happily pay for the app and I’m sure lots of others would too. Look how much money the daft founders earned. If I’d got the necessary knowledge I’d happily do it myself. So I ask again, anyone got the skills and enthusiasm and entrepreneurship?

I've it at a halt at the moment, too much going on that I cant spare any time for it. If anyone has time and the skills then please do PM me and I'll pass on the source code to be further developed.

If not then hopefully in the coming months now that the summer is dying down, I'll have a bit more time to "pump" into it.

Again though, any devs willing to give their time, shoot me a PM.

sk8board · 02-09-2019 9:08pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Canada is hilarious too. Was in a small city and when the price changes it starts on one side of town and makes its way to the other side over the day. One day it jumped 10c for no discernible reason and people literally drove to the far end to fill up.

It’s mad! I spent this summer driving in oil-filled Alberta - the prices jumped up and down up to 10% any given day and eventually someone told me they charge more during rush hour mornings and evenings, esp during the 7-8 snow months - and given the time someone could be in their Hemi truck, they’d need to fill before leaving.
Google maps displayed accurate live pricing, and you also got 10c/litre off for shopping in Sobeys, so there were plenty times I filled my Odyssey for CA$0.90/liter (€0.60). Unfortunately it drank with two straws.

Qgravs · 02-09-2019 9:44pm

SweetCaliber wrote: »

I've it at a halt at the moment, too much going on that I cant spare any time for it. If anyone has time and the skills then please do PM me and I'll pass on the source code to be further developed.

If not then hopefully in the coming months now that the summer is dying down, I'll have a bit more time to "pump" into it.

Again though, any devs willing to give their time, shoot me a PM.

Thanks a lot for the update. I wish I had the skills to help you. Thanks for getting things started. Hopefully these messages today can root out someone to help you! Thanks again!

deezell · 05-09-2019 11:20am

I complained to Applegreen that their app was showing fuel prices 5c per litre lower than at the station, and asked for a refund on my fill. I got this response;

"We are sorry to come back to you so late, we wanted to investigate what was wrong with our listed prices. Apparently it have been some error submitting new price, but unfortunately we cannot refund you your loss. For this mistake from our side, we would like to offer you our attendant carwash for free, between 9am-6pm

Please accept our sincere apology for this mistake, we are going to work on it to resolve an error."
No mention of how I'm supposed to authenticate my free car wash, other than this email.

Slippin Jimmy · 05-09-2019 11:52am

deezell wrote: »

No mention of how I'm supposed to authenticate my free car wash, other than this email.

I presume you would need to email them back accepting their offer. They will probably send you out a voucher/code to use.

horse7 · 05-09-2019 7:51pm

deezell wrote: »

I complained to Applegreen that their app was showing fuel prices 5c per litre lower than at the station, and asked for a refund on my fill. I got this response;

"We are sorry to come back to you so late, we wanted to investigate what was wrong with our listed prices. Apparently it have been some error submitting new price, but unfortunately we cannot refund you your loss. For this mistake from our side, we would like to offer you our attendant carwash for free, between 9am-6pm

Please accept our sincere apology for this mistake, we are going to work on it to resolve an error."
No mention of how I'm supposed to authenticate my free car wash, other than this email.

That's a n amazing response because I received this email from them on 21st August,. Thank you for your Email. Applegreen has no longer a Price Fuel App.

We are currently working on launching a new improved App.

Kind Regards,

Info Team.

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mikeecho · 05-09-2019 8:22pm

I got this back in April when I asked why they don't display prices in Munster on their app

Dear Mikeecho,

The members of our IT department are currently working diligently to fix this issue. We are hoping to have it resolved very soon.

Thank you for your patience.

Kind Regards,

Info Team.

KOR101 · 20-09-2019 8:29am

There certainly does seem to be less competition since Topaz was sold.

There was like-for-like growth in fuel revenue of 8.4 per cent and growth in fuel gross profit of 14.3 per cent.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/revenue-and-profits-soar-at-forecourt-operator-applegreen-1.4024685

is_that_so · 20-09-2019 8:35am

KOR101 wrote: »

There certainly does seem to be less competition since Topaz was sold.

There was like-for-like growth in fuel revenue of 8.4 per cent and growth in fuel gross profit of 14.3 per cent.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/revenue-and-profits-soar-at-forecourt-operator-applegreen-1.4024685

Yet prices haven't changed upward in quite a while. Petrol has been in the 1.35-1.45 range and diesel from 1.30-1.40. Most of them now have veritable mini-malls inside so getting customers in is what now produces the competition. That and drivers prepared to go 10km out of their way to save 1c a litre!

Del2005 · 20-09-2019 8:35am

KOR101 wrote: »

There certainly does seem to be less competition since Topaz was sold.

There was like-for-like growth in fuel revenue of 8.4 per cent and growth in fuel gross profit of 14.3 per cent.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/revenue-and-profits-soar-at-forecourt-operator-applegreen-1.4024685

Petrol stations make their money in the shop not the pumps. I love how people complain about paying ~€1.40 for a litre of heavily taxed fuel and then happily pay €2 for 500ml of water or €3+ for 300ml of coffee

duffman3833 · 20-09-2019 9:15am

Del2005 wrote: »

Petrol stations make their money in the shop not the pumps. I love how people complain about paying ~€1.40 for a litre of heavily taxed fuel and then happily pay €2 for 500ml of water or €3+ for 300ml of coffee

I just go in and get out, only thing i might buy is lotto ticket

jim salter · 20-09-2019 9:39am

Circle K in Hartstown increased the price of miles+ from 149.8 yesterday to 152.8 today.

While I understand the attacks in Saudi will affect prices, there is no way the petrol being sold today has been purchased since the attacks.

Absolute joke.

Black_Knight · 21-09-2019 8:04pm

jim salter wrote: »

Circle K in Hartstown increased the price of miles+ from 149.8 yesterday to 152.8 today.

While I understand the attacks in Saudi will affect prices, there is no way the petrol being sold today has been purchased since the attacks.

Absolute joke.

People still buying it though.

gussieg · 22-09-2019 8:50am

but thats the thing. without reverting to horse and cart straight away, if you live in the area, with a car that needs fuelling, where else are you supposed to go?
in this weather too...

yabadabado · 22-09-2019 8:54am

In this weather ?

A bit of rain is hardly going to prevent someone driving to a different station.

Muahahaha · 24-09-2019 1:31am

Looks like we're heading back above 1.50 for petrol between the Saudi oil field attack and the government now committed to raising the carbon tax in Octobers budget

horse7 · 30-09-2019 9:57am

Are we getting any closer to the New pumps app?

vectra · 30-09-2019 10:09am

horse7 wrote: »

Are we getting any closer to the New pumps app?

I was just about to ask the same question. Looks like it would be more than handy to people now with the increasing costs.

horse7 · 08-10-2019 7:07pm

Crazy budget regards petrol increase , the government already takes 60% in taxes for every litre we buy.

deezell · 08-10-2019 10:24pm

Expect that to increase by the same amount year on year for the next 5.

mikeecho · 08-10-2019 10:24pm

horse7 wrote: »

Crazy budget regards petrol increase , the government already takes 60% in taxes for every litre we buy.

It's 2¢
Not going to upset too many people.
You'd get more of a price variation shopping around.

But.. it is death by 1000 cuts.

Anyway, looks like Lithium Carbon Dioxide batteries might be the next big thing for EV's

deezell · 08-10-2019 10:29pm

No attempt made to equalise the tax of petrol v diesel either, and It's completely wrong to base the tax on volume, diesel is heavier per litre, hence more energy per litre. Tax should be based on weight and calorific value per kilo. That would encourage a shift to cleaner petrol.

Muahahaha · 08-10-2019 10:33pm

Got petrol for €1.40.9 in the Maxol in Terenure the other day. Remarkably cheap compared to 1.46 everywhere else. Is that Maxol generally the cheapest on the south side?

KOR101 · 09-10-2019 9:02am

Harolds Cross station usually the cheapest near me.

is_that_so · 09-10-2019 9:04am

deezell wrote: »

No attempt made to equalise the tax of petrol v diesel either, and It's completely wrong to base the tax on volume, diesel is heavier per litre, hence more energy per litre. Tax should be based on weight and calorific value per kilo. That would encourage a shift to cleaner petrol.

They don't want to encourage people to switch to any form of fossil fuel. Non-emission sources are the end goal.

mikeecho · 09-10-2019 12:58pm

Fair play to Sweet Calliber for taking the initiative, and having a go at creating a replacement for pumps.ie

But it's been three months.
Are we any closer to completion.

It would be great to have this service available again.

deezell · 09-10-2019 3:08pm

is_that_so wrote: »

deezell wrote: »

No attempt made to equalise the tax of petrol v diesel either, and It's completely wrong to base the tax on volume, diesel is heavier per litre, hence more energy per litre. Tax should be based on weight and calorific value per kilo. That would encourage a shift to cleaner petrol.

They don't want to encourage people to switch to any form of fossil fuel. Non-emission sources are the end goal.

Unfortunately the production of a reasonable range lithium battery has a carbon footprint equal to almost 4 years emission of the equivalent fossil fuel car consumption, and that's before you factor in the footprint of the energy used to charge the thing over that period. We're burning coal to charge our batteries, very little coming from renewables, and the battery production is all manufactured in places powered by dirty coal generation. There's huge bull and hypocrisy surrounding EV at the moment. Zero emissions my arse, pardon the pun.

deezell · 09-10-2019 3:15pm

The ultimate EV joke. Charging point powered by Diesel generator.

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zilog_jones · 09-10-2019 3:18pm

deezell wrote: »

We're burning coal to charge our batteries, very little coming from renewables...

We generate more energy from renewables than coal in Ireland - this information is readily available from Eirgrid and the SEAI. I suspect all your other claims are equally a load of bollocks.

deezell · 09-10-2019 3:20pm

zilog_jones wrote: »

deezell wrote: »

We're burning coal to charge our batteries, very little coming from renewables...

We generate more energy from renewables than coal in Ireland - this information is readily available from Eirgrid and the SEAI. I suspect all your other claims are equally a load of bollocks.

Alright, coal, oil, gas, peat, bollox even.Now how much of that is renewables.

marcos_94 · 09-10-2019 3:22pm

deezell wrote: »

Unfortunately the production of a reasonable range lithium battery has a carbon footprint equal to almost 4 years emission of the equivalent fossil fuel car consumption, and that's before you factor in the footprint of the energy used to charge the thing over that period. We're burning coal to charge our batteries, very little coming from renewables, and the battery production is all manufactured in places powered by dirty coal generation. There's huge bull and hypocrisy surrounding EV at the moment. Zero emissions my arse, pardon the pun.

You are incredibly wrong here and are missing one key point. First of all lets discuss the life cycle emissions of an ICE vehicle vs EV. It has been proven time and time again that Evs have lower total life cycle emissions vs ICE vehicles. Have a read of this: https://www.transportenvironment.org/press/electric-cars-emit-less-co2-over-their-lifetime-diesels-even-when-powered-dirtiest-electricity

Lets dig deeper on the source of electricity. In 2018, Ireland met approximately 33% of its electricity demand from renewable energy sources (Source:https://www.seai.ie/publications/Energy-in-Ireland-2018.pdf). Most importantly is that if you were to analyse grid emissions for the next 10 years, you would find that they would be decreasing as a result of the installation of more renewable energy generation on our grid. An ICE vehicle however would tend to, at best, continue emitting the same amount of CO2 as it did when new.

Please stop spreading your opinions and spread fact. Im a car guy and mechanical engineer with no intention of having an EV anytime soon but that doesnt mean that I have to spread lies about EVs

deezell · 09-10-2019 3:29pm

I'll tell you then. Somewhere between 25 and 30%, depending on who you believe. So when your'e driving along nice and smug in your ev, almost 3 out of 4 kms is powered by fossil fuel. The batteries are made way out of our supervision in Asia, in countries where power generation is mostly fossil fuels. Read some academic papers on this, instead of throwing abuse.

marcos_94 · 09-10-2019 3:34pm

deezell wrote: »

I'll tell you then. Somewhere between 25 and 30%, depending on who you believe. So when your'e driving along nice and smug in your ev, almost 3 out of 4 kms is powered by fossil fuel. The batteries are made way out of our supervision in Asia, in countries where power generation is mostly fossil fuels. Read some academic papers on this, instead of throwing abuse.

Haha how about you read some academic papers. Or better yet, link some. I have provided two sources of information. I dont need to "depend on who to believe". Change is coming and EVs are the future whether you like it or not.

Ill also add that some countries like China get a lot of stick for their emissions, and rightly so as theyre the worlds largest emitter, but theyre also leading the world in renewable energy installations. It is easy to forget that the share of citizens with access to electricity in the likes of China and India is still relatively low and these countries are trying to reach the level of comfort that the western world enjoys

zilog_jones · 09-10-2019 4:03pm

Even if 100% of our electricity was from coal, emissions required to charge an EV would still be lower than an ICE car - and more importantly, the emissions will not be in urban environments, right next to people walking, etc. That's what is meant by a "zero emissions vehicle" - nobody's suggesting electricity is created out of thin air.

deezell wrote: »

The batteries are made way out of our supervision in Asia, in countries where power generation is mostly fossil fuels. Read some academic papers on this, instead of throwing abuse.

I don't think you know how life cycle assessments work (or you've never read a paper on such), because emissions from an ICE car during usage far outweigh those used to produce an EV battery combined with electricity usage over its lifetime.

Esel · 09-10-2019 5:55pm

› EV forum....

Auld Jim Halpin · 12-10-2019 4:10pm

NORA Levy

https://www.thejournal.ie/levy-oil-climate-action-plan-4845413-Oct2019/

"The Oireachtas Public Accounts Committee heard yesterday the public has been paying a 2c levy on the cost of petrol, diesel and heating oil unnecessarily.

The levy was introduced in 1996 to fund the National Oil Reserve Association (NORA). It was introduced due to the level of debt the agency had accumulated, of some €450 million. "

SweetCaliber · 14-10-2019 9:04pm

mikeecho wrote: »

Fair play to Sweet Calliber for taking the initiative, and having a go at creating a replacement for pumps.ie

But it's been three months.
Are we any closer to completion.

It would be great to have this service available again.

Nobody wants to come on board to give me a hand and I just don't have the time at the moment to develop it.

Like I've said many times, anyone that has experience with Node.js that can give a few hours a week, we could get it up and running in a week or so.

Just need some volunteers!

mikeecho · 14-10-2019 9:29pm

SweetCaliber wrote: »

Nobody wants to come on board to give me a hand and I just don't have the time at the moment to develop it.

Like I've said many times, anyone that has experience with Node.js that can give a few hours a week, we could get it up and running in a week or so.

Just need some volunteers!

Fair enough .

Id love to help, but I know nothing of programming.

Esel · 14-10-2019 11:47pm

You might get a volunteer or three on the Development forum. Worth a shout anyway.

https://touch.boards.ie/forum/25

horse7 · 23-10-2019 8:44pm

The end is nigh. Bye bye pumps.

KOR101 · 28-11-2019 9:06am

Is that really it.......sad if so!

WestWicklow1 · 28-11-2019 11:29am

pumps.ie was due to expire at the end of 11/19.

Seems that it has been renewed for another year!!

Domain: pumps.ie
Domain Holder:
Admin-c: ABS439-IEDR
Tech-c: ABG704-IEDR
Account Name: Letshost.ie
Registrar Abuse Contact: Service not supported currently
Registration Date: 30-November-2005
Renewal Date: 30-November-2020
Holder-type:
Locked status: NO
Renewal status: Active
In-zone: 1
Nserver: ns5.dnsireland.com
Nserver: ns6.dnsireland.com
Nserver: ns7.dnsireland.ie

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