Artificial fucκing sweeteners in everything everything tastes like shıt now.

lawred2 · 13-09-2020 10:50pm

Batrachotox wrote: »

Yeah I agree, would be a food libertarian also - if you’re obese don’t go guzzling fizzy drinks by the litre. There really is no excuse nowadays with so much information out there, nobody isn’t aware sweets and soft drinks etc are unhealthy.

Got sweet shoite all to do with health..

It's cheaper than sugar

PsychoPete · 13-09-2020 11:05pm

A few weeks ago I bought some lucozade for the first time in years, I took one mouth full out of the bottle and I launched the bottle across the yard in absolute disgust

4068ac1elhodqr · 13-09-2020 11:19pm

Milan Shapely Warrior wrote: »

Phissing out x28 cans of artifically sweet could well have played havoc on the aul bladder bag, the poor chap.

Actually x28 cans is far above the FDA health limit for diet colas.

A typical can of diet soda contains about 185 milligrams of aspartame, meaning the average person should not drink more than 18cans per day. The WHO and Europeans have a lower limit of 14 cans.

Hence there is reasonable cause to directly associate young Daly's bladder cancer with this daily intake of 28cans of diet cola. This is even before considering the other one: 'Acesulfame K' (200 times sweeter than sucrose).

Diet Coke:
Carbonated Water, Colour (Caramel E150d), Sweeteners (Aspartame and Acesulfame K), Natural Flavourings Including Caffeine, Phosphoric Acid, Citric Acid. Contains a Source of Phenylalanine

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 14-09-2020 6:42am

Just Mrs. Elephant's vitamin tablets ... Sweeteners. Christ.

What harm will that tiny bit of sugar do in a tablet that weighs less than a gram? The artificial sweeteners make them unpalatable.

Why not just eliminate sugar in sugar free versions altogether instead of replacing it with sweeteners? And leave sugared tablets for those who want it.

14-09-2020 6:57am

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Just Mrs. Elephant's vitamin tablets ... Sweeteners. Christ.

What harm will that tiny bit of sugar do in a tablet that weighs less than a gram? The artificial sweeteners make them unpalatable.

Why not just eliminate sugar altogether instead of replacing it with sweeteners?

Because everything would taste like crap. There's nothing wrong with sugar anyway.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 14-09-2020 7:01am

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Because everything would taste like crap. There's nothing wrong with sugar anyway.

?????????????
Where did my quoted post demonise sugar????

14-09-2020 7:03am

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

?????????????
Where did my quoted post demonise sugar????

You edited in an extra line afterwards to maker yourself look more hinged about it.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 14-09-2020 7:06am

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

You edited in an extra line afterwards to maker yourself look more hinged about it.

Ok. I did. But my original post clearly said "what harm will <1 g of sugar do?".

Odyssey 2005 · 14-09-2020 7:12am

You lost me at 'beans on a breakfast '!.

That's just disgusting.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 14-09-2020 7:14am

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

You edited in an extra line afterwards to maker yourself look more hinged about it.

Not replying any more??

You mocked my post by selective quoting.

I edited it to make it clearer.

I explained it.

Now you've disappeared.

Hello?????

the purple tin · 14-09-2020 8:20am

As someone said already Tayto have gone mank as well. Horrible overpowering taste of them now. It started when the began using E621 in the recipe.
Used to love a bag of cheese and onion but I wouldn't touch them anymore.
The supermarket own brand 'deluxe' type crisps in the larger bag are much nicer.

4068ac1elhodqr · 14-09-2020 4:01pm

the purple tin wrote: »

As someone said already Tayto have gone mank as well. Horrible overpowering taste of them now. It started when the began using E621 in the recipe.
Used to love a bag of cheese and onion but I wouldn't touch them anymore.
The supermarket own brand 'deluxe' type crisps in the larger bag are much nicer.

It's not the E621 (Monosodium glutamate) to be concerned about, it's the varying levels of Acrylamide, common with crisps (another junk food).

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/acrylamide-chemical-linked-to-cancer-found-in-crisps-29212032.html

HBC08 · 14-09-2020 4:09pm

893bet wrote: »

One of the reasons I no longer go to subway with their no options but sweetened drinks.

Same as that,i haven't set foot in a subway since they only have sugar free drinks.

Church on Tuesday · 14-09-2020 8:50pm

There's a guy on YouTube, steve1989MRE, who eats old and very old MRE rations. He always comments how the Wrigleys gum in, say, a 1942 WW2 ration is miles above what we have now and the coffee too.

The risk of botulism on the other hand...

BuboBubo · 14-09-2020 8:59pm

Cheap, mass produced crap, the food processing industry is gone to sh1te.

Sweeteners are added, sugar reduced = cheaper to make, less sugar tax, less calories, and less flavour. Great cure for constipation though!

Bring back the 80s stuff, was everything bigger then? (wagon wheels?) Or were my hands and gob smaller?

Dubl07 · 14-09-2020 9:15pm

Plain soda water, a home-made or local organic cordial, and you'll be way happier. Even a bit of sugar syrup and a squeeze each of lemon and lime juice. I hate the way sweeteners taste, but my gut refuses to tolerate them and protests in extreme ways if I inadvertently ingest them.
I posted a recipe for lime cordial at one point in the Roses' Lime Cordial thread. (Food forum, I think.)

kenmm · 15-09-2020 12:26pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

There's a guy on YouTube, steve1989MRE, who eats old and very old MRE rations. He always comments how the Wrigleys gum in, say, a 1942 WW2 ration is miles above what we have now and the coffee too.

The risk of botulism on the other hand...

Just looked him up..

Wow - I am not sure what to say...

Is he crazy? Am I crazy? I cant stop watching. How is he alive? Wtf is going on there?

suicide_circus · 15-09-2020 12:36pm

I can instantly taste artificial sweetener in anything and i find the aftertaste in particular absolutely vile. So many foods and drinks ruined forever.

ronano · 15-09-2020 12:44pm

PsychoPete wrote: »

A few weeks ago I bought some lucozade for the first time in years, I took one mouth full out of the bottle and I launched the bottle across the yard in absolute disgust

Bit dramatic

kenmm · 15-09-2020 12:45pm

ronano wrote: »

Bit dramatic

User name checks out :-D

Church on Tuesday · 15-09-2020 12:48pm

kenmm wrote: »

Just looked him up..

Wow - I am not sure what to say...

Is he crazy? Am I crazy? I cant stop watching. How is he alive? Wtf is going on there?

He seems like a genuinely nice lad but I'm not sure he's quite all there.

Richard Hillman · 15-09-2020 12:50pm

They want every to taste the same. They also want to get rid of individual packaging labels too.

They want to turn you off the sweet food and have you living off the ground.

We are being prepped for Green Communism.

kenmm · 15-09-2020 1:03pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

They want every to taste the same. They also want to get rid of individual packaging labels too.

They want to turn you off the sweet food and have you living off the ground.

We are being prepped for Green Communism.

I think it's more likely to be a bad combination of trying to do something about the general sugar intake and big business try to maximize profits at every turn (cheaper ingredients, lower taxes etc).

It's funny - you use communism as the enemy here, but really its the big companies/capitalist model trying to cheap out that's got us on this one.

I have stopped buying most bars and drinks as a result of the rank taste. Still eat my fair share of crap - I just buy things like lindt bars or make stuff when I can be arsed.

i57dwun4yb1pt8 · 15-09-2020 1:27pm

Nice work, space man

Homelander · 15-09-2020 1:28pm

Just to counter the outrage on the thread, I have no issue with artificial sweeteners and my favorite drink is Pepsi Max. Was never a fan of the sugary drinks, found them way too syrupy and sweet.

Companies use them because optics of being healthier, whilst saving them money. But they wouldn't abandon sugar if they thought it'd hurt sales....most people I know drink Coke Zero/Pepsi Max over Coke/Pepsi at this point anyway.

I drink the sugar free Sprite and 7UP on occasion and find them perfectly fine as well. The only one I don't like is Club Zero.

kenmm · 15-09-2020 1:28pm

Lara Wrong Self-reliance wrote: »

Nice work, space man

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kenmm · 15-09-2020 1:30pm

Homelander wrote: »

Just to counter the outrage on the thread, I have no issue with artificial sweeteners and my favorite drink is Pepsi Max. Was never a fan of the sugary drinks, found them way too syrupy and sweet.

Companies use them because optics of being healthier, whilst saving them money. But they wouldn't abandon sugar if they thought it'd hurt sales....most people I know drink Coke Zero/Pepsi Max over Coke/Pepsi at this point anyway.

I drink the sugar free Sprite and 7UP on occasion and find them perfectly fine as well. The only one I don't like is Club Zero.

Ye, I think sine drinks are actually ok, it's more the other cheap fillers and crap they out in bars masquerading as 'chocolate'.. they are the wettest and it's not really artificial sweeteners fault there

Tails142 · 15-09-2020 1:57pm

kenmm wrote: »

Ye, I think sine drinks are actually ok, it's more the other cheap fillers and crap they out in bars masquerading as 'chocolate'.. they are the wettest and it's not really artificial sweeteners fault there

Agreed, have always drank Pepsi Max/Regular Coke just based on taste and whichever is available.

Since the sugar tax though everything has gone to hell and a lot of drinks taste pure muck now, lucozade is ruined, I got a free bottle of Club Zero that I couldn't even bring myself to finish. I would worry that stevia/aspartame will be found to have detrimental effects in the future when the damage has been done, oh well, will keep guzzling the pepsi max until then.

suicide_circus · 15-09-2020 2:00pm

The baked beans in the OP is a particularly egregious example. Whatever about soft drinks, diet coke was around before i was born but putting it in foods is a step too far. How many people are obese from eating beans?

Feisar · 15-09-2020 3:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The cúnts ruined Lucozade :mad:

Lucozade, an energy drink. Um... so where does this magical energy come from if it is zero calorie? Because you can rest assurred some "natural Jojoba extracts" ain't going to get me there!

Grrrr

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 15-09-2020 4:39pm

iguana wrote: »

A couple of the M&S brand squashes have no artificial sweeteners.

They probably have Stevia though :mad:

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 15-09-2020 4:58pm

I messaged Robinson's about their "no artificial flavours" label.

Maybe someone can edit my post for me and embed the images. I don't know how.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 15-09-2020 5:00pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 15-09-2020 5:00pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

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Cee-Jay-Cee · 15-09-2020 5:05pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The cúnts ruined Lucozade :mad:

Yeah that was the biggest crime yet! I know diabetics that used lucozade when their blood sugars went low and now it’s useless and not only that it tastes like shiite too.

Alejandro68 · 15-09-2020 5:11pm

Using the artificial sweeteners is how companies get pass the sugar taxes, or so I was told. But yes it has ruined a lot of things taste wise.

Kilboor · 15-09-2020 5:13pm

Fanta is ruined. It's half aspartame and half sugar now. Horrible chemical after taste from the aspartame

kenmm · 15-09-2020 5:46pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

I messaged Robinson's about their "no artificial flavours" label.

Maybe someone can edit my post for me and embed the images. I don't know how.

ha - ye - never thought about it before - but no artificial flavours and using artificial sweetener does seem a bit of a contradiction alright.

Beanntraigheach · 15-09-2020 8:41pm

Kilboor wrote: »

Fanta is ruined. It's half aspartame and half sugar now. Horrible chemical after taste from the aspartame

Aspartame comes out of the divil's arse!

the purple tin · 15-09-2020 9:25pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

I messaged Robinson's about their "no artificial flavours" label.

Maybe someone can edit my post for me and embed the images. I don't know how.

Aspartame is classed as a natural flavouring. They don't always list it in the ingredients.

Potential-Monke · 16-09-2020 2:04am

I put aspartame up there with MSG in the 'people think it's bad for you but it's been proven it's not when taken in normal amounts' category. It's like saying coffee is bad for you if you drink 10 cups a day. Well duh. MSG and aspartame are bad for you if you abuse them, otherwise they're perfectly fine in normal amounts.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 16-09-2020 9:18am

It should be compulsory for food and drinks companies to clearly indicate the presence artificial sweeteners on the front of the label

The ingredients are often unclear and obscure and I find myself googling obscure ingredients on the label only to find it's an artificial sweeteners.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 16-09-2020 9:18am

Has Jones's Soda survived in Ireland?

JupiterKid · 16-09-2020 11:16am

100% agree. I can't stand aspartame - a horrible shallow taste with a bitter aftertaste.

When aspartame was under development in the 1970s, there was mounting evidence that suggested that it was a carcinogen but this was surpressed in order for the US FDA to approve it as "Nutra-sweet". Stevia is just meh.

It's pretty ridiculous that you can't even get a normal Sprite in McDonalds or elsewhere now. I actively avoid drinks with artificial sweetener.

the purple tin · 17-09-2020 8:05am

Amazing how aspartame ever got on the market. Political jiggery pokery from Reagen and Rumsfeld (Rummy got a $12 million bonus for successfully lobbying it, huge amount back then) and the FDA.

Junk-science tests by Searle and Monsanto, an independent test found that it caused brain tumours and cancers in rats.
It has only been on the market since the 80s so in reality we are the real guinea pigs here.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/nzpbkx/the-story-of-how-fake-sugar-got-approved-is-scary-as-hell

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-rumsfeld-and-the-s_b_805581?guccounter=1

17-09-2020 10:53am

I was wondering why 7up seems to taste so weird now but this is definitely it. It's not something i've noticed really in any other drinks, but definitely 7up

paw patrol · 17-09-2020 10:56am

i used to like chocolate , it doesn't taste great anymore.
my kids will never know chocolate and lucozade.

it's quite sad

blinding · 17-09-2020 12:00pm

paw patrol wrote: »

i used to like chocolate , it doesn't taste great anymore.
my kids will never know chocolate and lucozade.

it's quite sad

Will their taste buds get to like this stuff now ?

17-09-2020 12:07pm

Surely the optimum mindset when it comes to fizzy drinks is to only drink them occasionally (one or two cans worth a week maybe?) but when you do drink them they are the full sugar ones which actually taste satisfying? The rest of the time just drink water as we are supposed to. The odd cup of tea or glass of sparkling water is fine too. Full sugar fizzy drinks did exist too in the seventies and eighties but people didn't drink litres of them per day. They were mostly a treat at Christmas etc. Even in the nineties growing up we only got fizzy drinks for birthday parties or a glass of Country Spring on a Sunday!

Homelander · 17-09-2020 12:15pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Amazing how aspartame ever got on the market. Political jiggery pokery from Reagen and Rumsfeld (Rummy got a $12 million bonus for successfully lobbying it, huge amount back then) and the FDA.

Junk-science tests by Searle and Monsanto, an independent test found that it caused brain tumours and cancers in rats.
It has only been on the market since the 80s so in reality we are the real guinea pigs here.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/nzpbkx/the-story-of-how-fake-sugar-got-approved-is-scary-as-hell

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-rumsfeld-and-the-s_b_805581?guccounter=1

Pretty sure those research efforts have been debunked repeatedly in the debate.

There's no massive Lizard-people conspiracy over Aspartame.

Artificial fucκing sweeteners in everything everything tastes like shıt now.

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