Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Deleted User wrote: »

Ads on RTE the last couple of days. Derry Girls season 1 starting on Friday.

Derry Girls season 2 is already out. Its already on Netflix. Did strapped for cash RTE buy Derry Girls season 1 even though its available on multiple media elsewhere and unless you've been living under a rock, you've already seen it anyway.

this aint new from RTE, Simpsons are on various channels/DisneyPlus, ditto with Big Bang Theory, Friends, Goldbergs etc.....RTE should shave down to one channel and one radio station, and maybe invest in the Player and have it as own version of Netflix for a tenner a month

Wesley Teeny Oasis wrote: »

this aint new from RTE, Simpsons are on various channels/DisneyPlus, ditto with Big Bang Theory, Friends, Goldbergs etc.....RTE should shave down to one channel and one radio station, and maybe invest in the Player and have it as own version of Netflix for a tenner a month

I think just having one tv channel and one radio channel would be too restrictive.

If it can be afforded it would be better to have the versatility of being able to offer different choices.

Something definitely needs to be done to make the player work properly.

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

But that’s just it, they Clearly can’t afford it!!!!! They are running a deficit!!!

Bit of an overload with the exclamation marks but no matter.

We have been discussing the future of Public Broadcasting here for some time and some of us are looking forward to the proposed Broadcasting Commission.

It's the consensus on what we can afford that matters not the current unsatisfactory funding regime.

What we need to do is decide what we want and how to fund it, simple as that.

ligerdub wrote: »

Not only that it's a nonsense story and they know it.

Plus there's elements of it that they ignore-the McCann's using money from the fundraiser to pay their bills. They weren't exactly poor, had decent jobs, that money could have gone to actually paying for the investigation.
I mean, it's 13 years later-I'd be asking questions about who they actually gave all that money to. Much of the hard work seemed to have been done by government agencies. People who didn't get help from the McCann's.

Plus I've always found that Madeline McCann focus came about in a time when there was a lot of 'subtle' racism in news reports. (If RTE did a story on classroom overcrowding, they'd always cut to shots of children of immigrants, specifically any non-white child. It had a very ugly undercurrent). Madeline was a white, photogenic child.
So the media ate that story up.

In 2009, a 6 year old African American child named Adjir Desir disappeared in Florida. Two years after Madeline McCann. A year after President Obama was elected, when 'racism was over'. He's still missing.

For most people, that's probably the first time they heard of Adjir.

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Brendan Grace LLS tribute on once again. A joke.

Lot's of them and songs too. Brendan Grace legend and gentleman.

sligojoek wrote: »

You can say that again.

I see what you did there

Kivaro wrote: »

Good auld RTE this morning comparing Direct Provision centres in Ireland to the Black Lives Matters situation in America.

I have a recommendation if they are so committed to the "cause".
Put Dr. Ebun Joseph on the RTE board of directors.
Let's have diversity on the board. RTE should lead by example.
Ebun describes herself as an "anti-racist campaigner". Others may know her as the Nigerian Ribena lady who sees racism everywhere in Ireland ..... even in a drink.

she's going to really further herself after that ribena incident isnt she...like bailey with swing gate

Elmo wrote: »

TBH I don't care who's on the Board of RTÉ as long as they do their job. The introduction of gender quotas has not helped the Board of RTÉ. (Since 2009) So I really don't think that more diversity on the board will make it do a better job, other then to seem as if they are diverse.

Plus RTE don't have much success when they push for diversity, or do 'all female' shows.
(Whatever the reason-it's just a bizarre curse RTE have. Xpose wouldnt' have lasted 13 episodes if RTE tried it-never mind 13 years on VM1).

For Irish television, 'diversity' usually means 'one gaelgeor, one English speaker'.

The media over here is pretty slack for hiring any new talent- unless you're connected- so getting any non-white faces on TV is gonna be a LONNNGggg fight.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Plus RTE don't have much success when they push for diversity, or do 'all female' shows.
(Whatever the reason-it's just a bizarre curse RTE have. Xpose wouldnt' have lasted 13 episodes if RTE tried it-never mind 13 years on VM1).

Seriously if RTÉ have produced Xpose we'd all being giving out. Firstly, as an women only show it is about fashion, entertainment and not much else this if RTÉ had produced it would have accused of stereotyping women's interestest.

On the other hand over the last 20 years RTÉ have produced a huge number of female news and sports anchors.

A report by the BAI into the media interests of immigrants in Ireland showed that most interviewed said that Irish TV was more American and British and not very Irish, they all seemed to enjoy FM104's Strawberry Alarm Clock also!

Basically getting anyone from Ireland or living in Ireland on Irish TV is difficult. Indeed all the praise that Normal People was give failed to point out how white the series was and how the Actress playing an Irish girl was actually English because we've no talent living in Ireland.

bossdrum wrote: »

What exactly was questionable about it?
If it was a white character leading the parade would that be any different or am I totally missing something in the advert?

The Crows are made up of black stereotypes-from the 'mammy/ aunt jemima caricature' to the basketball player.

That and the phrase 'Kia Ora'-it's a Maori greeting, but people of Maori descent were legally not allowed used to phrase (as well as other words) because of the government sanctioned racism when the drink was created in 1903. But if you were white, you could use the phrase.

bossdrum wrote: »

Fair enough if that is your interpretation of the advert.
I had never heard of Aunt Jemima until now and embarrassingly my knowledge of the Maori history isn't very good.
I just enjoyed the advert at the time for being like a cartooon with a catchy tune:D

Oh you can still enjoy it- I personally really like the animation. (I'm a sucker for hand drawn animation done well).

But it kind of highlights how Britain and even Ireland were kind of ignorant of racism in media.
I mean black face was being used in UK media until the 2000s-and nobody batted an eyelid, bizarrely.

Elmo wrote: »

Seriously if RTÉ have produced Xpose we'd all being giving out. Firstly, as an women only show it is about fashion, entertainment and not much else this if RTÉ had produced it would have accused of stereotyping women's interestest.

My point was more, that if RTE made it, we'd have heard stories of sniping, catfights and whole lots of awful stuff going on behind the scenes. (As has happened with too many RTE shows).

Meanwhile, in the 13 years the show was on, there were very little stories of disagreement.

A report by the BAI into the media interests of immigrants in Ireland showed that most interviewed said that Irish TV was more American and British and not very Irish, they all seemed to enjoy FM104's Strawberry Alarm Clock also!

Basically getting anyone from Ireland or living in Ireland on Irish TV is difficult. Indeed all the praise that Normal People was give failed to point out how white the series was and how the Actress playing an Irish girl was actually English because we've no talent living in Ireland.

Interesting-I know they gave him an 'Asian' girlfriend (I've not watched it, I just know. I also don't know where her character is meant to hail from), played by the real life daughter of Ciaran Hinds.
As for the lack of talent... well, they're all booked on better shows that are produced in the UK.
Derry Girls,Normal People, and Young Offenders, to name a few. (And Young Offenders gets some rattling from the media, yet has a more diverse cast than other shows).
Even Amy Huberman's show was criticized for it's lack of diversity.

But I agree, the calibre of actors in Ireland are rather poor.

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Interesting-I know they gave him an 'Asian' girlfriend (I've not watched it, I just know. I also don't know where her character is meant to hail from), played by the real life daughter of Ciaran Hinds.

she's 1/4 vietnamese, her mother is Helene Patarot

goose2005 wrote: »

It was weird, because how many Irish people in the 80s/90s even knew these stereotypes?

Mike Murphy and Twink were doing blackface around that time, so probably not many.

Elmo wrote: »

TBH I don't care who's on the Board of RTÉ as long as they do their job. The introduction of gender quotas has not helped the Board of RTÉ. (Since 2009) So I really don't think that more diversity on the board will make it do a better job, other then to seem as if they are diverse.

This link shows the membership of the board of RTE.
There is information about the qualifications of each member.
There is no vacancy until the end of 2022.

https://about.rte.ie/inside-rte/rte-board/

Elmo wrote: »

Think twink was possibly doing it in the early 1980’s I don’t think anyone was going it past 1990, could be wrong but I don’t think mike ever blackfaced.

I am always surprised at people who seemed to think it was “okay” in the early 2000s to blackface, even in the 1990s, you might forgive the late 1980s.

One good thing is that Keith lemon has been forced to admit he isn’t funny and never was.

Ant and Dec did blackface, two or three times, one as Jamaican Emmerdale fans, then as two black rappers. They also did Yellowface. Both in the 2000s.

Little Britain did blackface, quite often.

As did Jon Culshaw (case in point-skip to the 1.30 minute mark).



I remember on one of Gerry Ryan's 'Top 30 shows' that he showed clips of twink and Mike wearing it. Mike was playing some Cuban/ black fellow while smoking a cigar. Just pointing it out as 'the times'. Tho pretty much everyone agreed, they were all horribly unfunny.

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

I just can't understand why RTE don't let one of their many black reporters, report on the direct provisions situation and the 'black lives matter' protests.

And in a similar vein, why aren't the RTE reporters from the traveller community the ones that get to report on TC issues?

Can't get my head around it at all.

Because they may not be impartial.

Elmo wrote: »

Well lucky for us RTÉ don’t make much TV, and never did, so we’re lucky blackface on Irish TV didn’t continue passed the 1980s !!!!

Sadly, they hired this idiot (the one in the photo) to make Damo and Ivor (yup, Andy Quirke). The 'skit' has been taken down-tho you could probably find it with waybackmachine...

And that clip aired around 2010, I think. He may have used the 'N' word too, according to broadhseet.ie anyways.

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/03/11/you-did-see-wesley-quirkes-brother-doing-blackface-on-prime-time-last-night-didnt-you/