Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

Odhinn · 21-01-2018 12:05am

Omackeral wrote: »

Also this type of behaviour is usually a factor in labeling people scum;

Nobody said he was some saint. However if you set up a society with two sets of rules it's a recipe for disaster. The murderer nobody bothered with because he killed 'another scumbag' goes on to kill an entirely innocent person, etc.

splinter65 · 21-01-2018 12:12am

Odhinn wrote: »

Nobody said he was some saint. However if you set up a society with two sets of rules it's a recipe for disaster. The murderer nobody bothered with because he killed 'another scumbag' goes on to kill an entirely innocent person, etc.

What kind of society would you like to see?

Hoboo · 21-01-2018 12:17am

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Put a / before close thread to close it

No idea if putting a / on front of close thread does it automatically, I aint no techy, and I don't like making that decision not being a mod, so if you wanna leave it open I don't care, if you wanna close it, I don't care. Was just curious why it wasn't being discussed. I'll leave it up to your good self as the main man/girl/person (covering the PC backlash).

Cheers.

anewme · 21-01-2018 12:20am

How many commenting are from the area itself.?

To much drama and bull

KERSPLAT! · 21-01-2018 12:25am

anewme wrote: »

How many commenting are from the area itself.?

To much drama and bull

No drama for me. A new year a new me.

Collie D · 21-01-2018 12:25am

anewme wrote: »

How many commenting are from the area itself.?

To much drama and bull

The victim himself (still not sure if we can name him even though a paper has online) wasn't from the area either so could happen anywhere in the city..or abroad as in the case of one of the innocent people killed.

Omackeral · 21-01-2018 12:27am

TallGlass wrote: »

You forgot this part in the second quote!

Didn't cop it was a lady manager. That's somehow worse.

Collie D · 21-01-2018 12:35am

Omackeral wrote: »

Didn't cop it was a lady manager. That's somehow worse.

The sentencing in that case is a bit bizarre. I'm not overly surprised at the suspended sentence to be honest but how did he get off so lightly compared to the other guy?

My only knowledge is from reading that article and another one about his accomplice's sentencing and they both seem to have been equally involved.

Not particularly directed at you, Omackerel. Unless you were the judge

glenfieldman · 21-01-2018 12:36am

Collie D wrote: »

The victim himself (still not sure if we can name him even though a paper has online) wasn't from the area either so could happen anywhere in the city..or abroad as in the case of one of the innocent people killed.

Derek Hutch, he was in the halting site to acquire drugs.
One of the biggest dealers in West Dublin runs that site

FACT

Omackeral · 21-01-2018 12:38am

Typing FACT doesn't make it a fact.

TallGlass · 21-01-2018 12:39am

Collie D wrote: »

The sentencing in that case is a bit bizarre. I'm not overly surprised at the suspended sentence to be honest

I think these days you'd be more surprised reading someone actually getting sent to prison!

TallGlass · 21-01-2018 12:39am

glenfieldman wrote: »

Derek Hutch, he was in the halting site to acquire drugs.
One of the biggest dealers in West Dublin runs that site

FACT

Careful now.

glenfieldman · 21-01-2018 12:40am

Omackeral wrote: »

Typing FACT doesn't make it a fact.

Why else would a North inner city scumbag be in an area that he has very little connections

glenfieldman · 21-01-2018 12:41am

TallGlass wrote: »

Careful now.

Im waiting for it
1 2 3 ..... BANNED

anewme · 21-01-2018 12:41am

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

No drama for me. A new year a new me.

What’s with the “a new me “ comment.

Would you be trying to make little of me?

Is that supposed to be a dig..?

Do you not accept the word of people living in areas as how life goes on.?

I’ve had 48 years of it, 26 of this supporting the local community against ignorance and working towards better for myself. I dont need your blessing.

Common sense answers, support and education is needed, not small minded belittling and condescending Bull****.

You are supposed to be a moderator. What part of impartial do you not understand.

Dont even consider looking down on me or sneering.

You don’t know anything about me or how life goes on daily in areas like these. When people speak up you try to sneer.

You are not superior to me, dont pretend to be.

Collie D · 21-01-2018 12:42am

glenfieldman wrote: »

Why else would a North inner city scumbag be in an area that he has very little connections

How close is it to the prison?

TallGlass · 21-01-2018 12:44am

glenfieldman wrote: »

Im waiting for it
1 2 3 ..... BANNED

I'm still surprised this thread is even open. The mods must be out having a few beers. Anything controvert usually gets shut down.

TallGlass · 21-01-2018 12:46am

anewme wrote: »

What’s with the “a new me “ comment.

I assume this being 'after hours' it was a bit of a joke. I wouldn't take it personal!

Omackeral · 21-01-2018 12:51am

anewme wrote: »

What’s with the “a new me “ comment.

Would you be trying to make little of me?

Is that supposed to be a dig..?

Do you not accept the word of people living in areas as how life goes on.?

I’ve had 48 years of it, 26 of this supporting the local community against ignorance and working towards better for myself. I dont need your blessing.

Common sense answers, support and education is needed, not small minded belittling and condescending Bull****.

You are supposed to be a moderator. What part of impartial do you not understand.

Dont even consider looking down on me or sneering.

You don’t know anything about me or how life goes on daily in areas like these. When people speak up you try to sneer.

You are not superior to me, dont pretend to be.

He's not a Moderator of After Hours. Entitled to post as a normal user.

You're really over reacting!

anewme · 21-01-2018 12:53am

TallGlass wrote: »

I assume this being 'after hours' it was a bit of a joke. I wouldn't take it personal!

Thanks. My parents are separated.

Both live within 30 seconds of shootings within last two years.

As such. I can’t take the humor. Especially as it’s impacted other innocent families.

This is not a “bit of a joke”topic.

anewme · 21-01-2018 12:55am

Omackeral wrote: »

He's not a Moderator of After Hours. Entitled to post as a normal user.

You're really over reacting!

Not if you’ve live there and it’s impacted you.

That’s not an over reaction.

anewme · 21-01-2018 12:57am

TallGlass wrote: »

I assume this being 'after hours' it was a bit of a joke. I wouldn't take it personal!

It’s a serious topic but having an impact on real people.

How is shooting in residential areas a bit of a joke for those living there?.

Omackeral · 21-01-2018 12:58am

anewme wrote: »

Not if you’ve live there and it’s impacted you.

That’s not an over reaction.

All I'm saying is he's not a mod of here , so no need to really bring that up. And he never said he was better than you either tbf.

TallGlass · 21-01-2018 1:00am

anewme wrote: »

It’s a serious topic but having an impact on real people.

How is shooting in residential areas a bit of a joke for those living there?.

The topic isn't. This forum is. You'll get a mix of serious and not so serious post in here.

Anyway, regards your issue. This is where I check out on that one.

Thesomersarms · 21-01-2018 1:02am

Collie D wrote: »

How close is it to the prison?

Right beside it

anewme · 21-01-2018 1:05am

Omackeral wrote: »

All I'm saying is he's not a mod of here , so no need to really bring that up. And he never said he was better than you either tbf.

He was implying it. Read the post.

He was trying to mock my username.

Don’t defend people when they are in the wrong. Let them make their own apologies.

he trying to mock my user name for a cheap laugh about ordinary Dubs living in areas where pot shots are taken at criminals and by being there you could be there at the wrong time. That’s my family you are talking about.

For me,getting out of the west Dublin stigma was calling people out in when they tried to belittle me. I won’t fckn tolerate it. Not here. Not anywhere..

Collie D · 21-01-2018 1:06am

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Right beside it

Thanks. Just another rumour I heard for the reason they were there.

Apparently his two pals were tossing drugs over the wall while he waited in the car.

glenfieldman · 21-01-2018 1:07am

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Right beside it[/QUOTE

What has the prison got to do with this shooting
If he was here for a visit, there is ample parking across the road.
And as far as I know most of his relatives are in Portlaoise or Midlands prisons

Junkyard Tom · 21-01-2018 1:07am

Dublin is after getting fierce murdery these days.

anewme · 21-01-2018 1:10am

TallGlass wrote: »

The topic isn't. This forum is. You'll get a mix of serious and not so serious post in here.

Anyway, regards your issue. This is where I check out on that one.

It’s a serious issue for those living there. It’s real lives you are serious talking about, maybe not an after hours topic at all.

Not sure why you would check out...it’s an issue facing people living in working class areas.

TallGlass · 21-01-2018 1:15am

anewme wrote: »

It’s a serious issue for those living there. It’s real lives you are serious talking about, maybe not an after hours topic at all.

I agree with you, it's very serious. 14 people have been murdered. Simple as.

uck51js9zml2yt · 21-01-2018 1:18am

Omackeral wrote: »

Typing FACT doesn't make it a fact.

Ah now.. this is boards...of course it makes it "fact"

Or maybe fiction:)

Lackey · 21-01-2018 1:19am

riffmongous wrote: »

No surprise, non African/traveller related crime doesn't exist according to some on here

There was a huge thread on this with names and family trees detailed ...it was closed??

KERSPLAT! · 21-01-2018 1:20am

anewme wrote: »

What’s with the “a new me “ comment.

Would you be trying to make little of me?

Is that supposed to be a dig..?

Do you not accept the word of people living in areas as how life goes on.?

I’ve had 48 years of it, 26 of this supporting the local community against ignorance and working towards better for myself. I dont need your blessing.

Common sense answers, support and education is needed, not small minded belittling and condescending Bull****.

You are supposed to be a moderator. What part of impartial do you not understand.

Dont even consider looking down on me or sneering.

You don’t know anything about me or how life goes on daily in areas like these. When people speak up you try to sneer.

You are not superior to me, dont pretend to be.

I can't make head nor tail of your post.

Thesomersarms · 21-01-2018 1:24am

glenfieldman wrote: »

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Right beside it[/QUOTE

What has the prison got to do with this shooting
If he was here for a visit, there is ample parking across the road.
And as far as I know most of his relatives are in Portlaoise or Midlands prisons

Because as of November 2017 a close relative still resides there.

anewme · 21-01-2018 1:24am

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

I can't make head nor tail of your post.

That really says more about yourself then.

boombang · 21-01-2018 1:24am

Collie D wrote: »

Thanks. Just another rumour I heard for the reason they were there.

Apparently his two pals were tossing drugs over the wall while he waited in the car.

What are the guards at that a convicted killer with a history of firearms offences who is connected to the largest ongoing criminal feud in the country can be hanging around prisons having drugs tossed over the wall? I would have thought that somebody of that character would want to be keeping a low profile. Surely the law should have got to him before the gunmen did?

-Edit: I may have the wrong Derek Hutch. The one killed here is Derek Coakely Hutch, while Derek "Del Boy" Hutch is the one with the manslaughter conviction maybe

Dj Tom · 21-01-2018 1:27am

Let the gangs whack each other. It’s all good.

anewme · 21-01-2018 1:29am

Dj Tom wrote: »

Let the gangs whack each other. It’s all good.[/QUOThe reality is though Tom that some innocent people will get caught in the middle.

Collie D · 21-01-2018 1:32am

boombang wrote: »

What are the guards at that a convicted killer with a history of firearms offences who is connected to the largest ongoing criminal feud in the country can be hanging around prisons having drugs tossed over the wall? I would have thought that somebody of that character would want to be keeping a low profile. Surely the law should have got to him before the gunmen did?

Could well be bull****, just a rumour I heard but believable.

By the way, I don't think this guy is a convicted killer. His cousin has exact same name and is currently locked up.

boombang · 21-01-2018 1:39am

Collie D wrote: »

Could well be bull****, just a rumour I heard but believable.

By the way, I don't think this guy is a convicted killer. His cousin has exact same name and is currently locked up.

Thanks, realised my confusion of these two charmers.

So the one killed today was the guy who was given a suspended sentence for a violent Robbery?! I think the judges should be made work one day a week as security on the Red Line Luas, it might bring some sense to their sentencing.

Thesomersarms · 21-01-2018 1:40am

Collie D wrote: »

Could well be bull****, just a rumour I heard but believable.

By the way, I don't think this guy is a convicted killer. His cousin has exact same name and is currently locked up.

Indeed, and said cousin is still in that exact prison, plausible that he parked up the road at halting site as is his life was under threat and using the public Carpark wouldnt be a smart move as people after him would make it their first place to look out for family members visiting

glenfieldman · 21-01-2018 2:17am

Thesomersarms wrote: »

glenfieldman wrote: »

Because as of November 2017 a close relative still resides there.

Released

Thesomersarms · 21-01-2018 2:19am

glenfieldman wrote: »

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Released

Released from where?

glenfieldman · 21-01-2018 2:21am

Thesomersarms wrote: »

glenfieldman wrote: »

Released from where?

Prison

Thesomersarms · 21-01-2018 2:21am

glenfieldman wrote: »

Thesomersarms wrote: »

Released

Yes a relative was released recently but not the one I’m talking about.

Atlantic Dawn · 21-01-2018 2:23am

Will there be peace when the head of either organisation is no more or will it require a concert for peace to sort it all out?

tomofson · 21-01-2018 2:47am

I was wondering what he was doing in a halting site, the explanation about the drugs throw seems very plausible.

hatrickpatrick · 21-01-2018 2:55am

To those in the know: are the Kinahans just better resourced, do the gardai have some kind of preference for them over the Hutches, or are the Hutches just unlucky? The other day, a bunch of guns were seized which were allegedly going to be used by the Hutch crew against Kinahan associates. It seems that the Hutches tend to get intercepted by law enforcement far more often on their way to a hit, which is one of the reasons the Kinahans have been "winning" in terms of who's doing more damage to who - is this because the cops find it easier to intercept hutch associates, or because they're more interested in intercepting hutch associates?

I could be wrong, but having followed this feud closely it strikes me that the primary reason for the discrepancy between hutch and kinahan success rates is largely down to the hutches being repeatedly frustrated by law enforcement - while the kinahans seem to somehow slip under the radar until it's too late to prevent a shooting.

Any insights?

glenfieldman · 21-01-2018 2:55am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Will there be peace when the head of either organisation is no more or will it require a concert for peace to sort it all out?

I can see D junior done this year, because he is the one directing this mayhem.
His father will ride this storm out somewhere, as will "Monk".
Bop Roe will be be got as will S McG, and possibly Jaws

Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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