Would you miss RTÉ?

One More Toy · 21-09-2019 9:54pm #1

After watching a Mrs brown's boys from 2012 just on now. Is that the best they can really do for a Saturday night? Now next up is Ray D'Arcy with zero guests of any real fame

Fanny Wank · 21-09-2019 9:55pm

I would not

21-09-2019 9:55pm

I haven't missed RTÉ since I stopped watching it.

Your Face · 21-09-2019 9:56pm

I don't really watch it on television.
I only use the rte player now and that's only for matches.

Silentcorner · 21-09-2019 9:57pm

RTE's insular version of Ireland is outdated, it's financial model is outdated, the medium (TV) is quickly becoming outdated, it's employees are ridiculously overpaid, I think the writing is on the wall!

One More Toy · 21-09-2019 9:59pm

Silentcorner wrote: »

RTE's insular version of Ireland is outdated, it's financial model is outdated, the medium (TV) is quickly becoming outdated, it's employees are ridiculously overpaid, I think the writing is on the wall!

I'm glad I don't pay the licence fee. Cut D'Arcy and Joe Duffys wage first

TheValeyard · 21-09-2019 9:59pm

No miss.

robertpatterson · 21-09-2019 10:01pm

I would, their sports coverage alone is worth it imo I could do with less joe duffy though

whisky_galore · 21-09-2019 10:01pm

Still on summer autopilot?

I see very little of interest on any night. Occasionally there's a very good documentary but at stupid o clock at night. Meanwhile repeats (Fr Ted repeated to death) celebrity chefs, celebrity architects and home made imitations of other formats.

Even the weather forecast has that twee "Ah shur the rugby is on, we'll give them the weather for Japan".

beejee · 21-09-2019 10:02pm

Havent watched television in absolutely ages. Might flick through it now and then out of habit, but rarely leave it on.

All the internet channels are filled with even lower quality crap, with the added bonus of being divided into 500 different subscriptions.

Think im pretty much done with the telly/"internet telly" besides dvds and blurays. Ye can keep it!

Gregor Samsa · 21-09-2019 10:04pm

If I’m going to sit down in front of the TV, which isn’t often, I pretty much only watch Netflix. The kids exclusively watch Netflix. I don’t think they actually know we have Saorview and a Sky subscription (they I kept meaning to cancel). Haven’t watched broadcast TV in months. I don’t have anything against RTÉ, but I wouldn’t miss the TV channels. I actively despise all radio, so I certainly wouldn’t miss that. I do use the RTE News app, so I’d miss it.

elperello · 21-09-2019 10:04pm

I would for sure.
No matter what complaints we have about it RTE is the best we have and it needs to be nurtured not constantly denigrated.
Let's look at it in a mature way and see what changes and improvements can be made.

punisher5112 · 21-09-2019 10:05pm

Yes of course I would for there thrilling of the seat type of TV like fairly Sh1ty and phone box where Collin fardel stared and balliskissangle...

Oh glenroe is meant to be making a come back....

Repeats of father Ted.. I actually don't mind this as I'd still watch it but all the other sh1te... Ugh

Ten of Swords · 21-09-2019 10:07pm

RTE has it's place in Irish history but it's not relevant anymore and hasn't been for many years. It should be cut loose to sink or swim on it's own.

touts · 21-09-2019 10:07pm

robertpatterson wrote: »

I would, their sports coverage alone is worth it imo I could do with less joe duffy though

Sports coverage? They have lost most rights to big events. The only things they have exclusive rights to are League of Ireland and Club GAA mainly because no one else wants them and they are cheap. Everything else is available on other channels.

RTE could be slimmed down to a single channel and the current home grown programmes still wouldn't fill it.

Wabbit Ears · 21-09-2019 10:10pm

Id miss it if it went away completely as we do need a state broadcaster but RTE is a state broadcaster trying to be a commercial entertainment channel.
I think it should stop paying huge money to its staff and on buying in Foreign TV shows and concentrate on local and regional programming like a state broadcaster should. It should live within the means of the revenue brought in by the TV licence and stop chasing advertising revenue to support itself and its wannabe business model.

Junkyard Tom · 21-09-2019 10:12pm

I think it's more important than ever to have a national broadcaster but RTE is a case study in how not to do it.

KaneToad · 21-09-2019 10:14pm

Your Face wrote: »

I don't really watch it on television.
I only use the rte player now and that's only for matches.

So your answer would be yes

Yer Da sells Avon · 21-09-2019 10:15pm

I'd miss...

Documentary on One
Scannal
Reeling in the Years
Morning Ireland
The John Creedon Show
*whispers* The South Wind Blows
Mystery Train

Probably some other stuff too.

One More Toy · 21-09-2019 10:18pm

Ray D'Arcy has the fake laugh down to a T

punisher5112 · 21-09-2019 10:19pm

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I'd miss...

Documentary on One
Scannal
Reeling in the Years
Morning Ireland
The John Creedon Show
*whispers* The South Wind Blows
Mystery Train

Probably some other stuff too.

YouTube without the ads for you my friend....

21-09-2019 10:21pm

Silentcorner wrote: »

RTE's insular version of Ireland is outdated, it's financial model is outdated, the medium (TV) is quickly becoming outdated, it's employees are ridiculously overpaid, I think the writing is on the wall!

I really believe we need a state broadcaster, and some of the work they do is wonderful. Ireland has an outstanding radio service for a country of our size, especially in news & current affairs, and consequently we have a very well-informed, fairly active citizenship.

All of that risks being jeopardised by unjustifiable salaries (Joe Duffy is paid better than the BBC's political editor Laura Kuennsberg, a globally recognised figure in world news); and yes, we are too insular.

That goes from an unhealthy tendency to view the world through the lens of our own self-interest, to RTÉ stars interviewing other RTÉ stars about RTÉ projects, to Áine Uí Laoithe on Raidió Na Gaeltachta (or whoever it is on the day) reading out the death notices for Chorca Dhuibhne, and counting how many children Neilí Peats will be rejoining in the family plot at Ballyferriter. Yes that happens.

If RTÉ is given another chance to get its house in order then I'll gladly keep paying my licence or broadcast fee, whichever it is. But the march of progress is beating on the door of all global media organisations, and they're still stuck in the late 1990s, believing that the licence fee will save them in the end.

Delusion is not the word.

One More Toy · 21-09-2019 10:22pm

The last show I liked from rte was paths to freedom. How many years ago was that. And I suppose they launched the rubberbandits (albeit to a limit extent)

Junkyard Tom · 21-09-2019 10:23pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

YouTube without the ads for you my friend....

Without RTE they won't end up on YouTube you tube.

TheRiverman · 21-09-2019 10:23pm

I would miss RTE Sports coverage.

Varik · 21-09-2019 10:24pm

It'll get to the point where all new foreign content or sports will have it's own distribution, you'll be stuck with RTE's own muck and all the classic rerun shows will be strictly to one VOD services or the other.

corks finest · 21-09-2019 10:25pm

Wibbs · 21-09-2019 10:25pm

I'd certainly miss idea of and much of her history in a big way, but that idea is long diluted under bad management and the history, is well, history. I certainly wouldn't want to be "Reeling in" the last few years of its output.

It must adapt and become a slimmed down, open to all Irish voices, trusted relevant source to the Irish man and woman on the street and beyond. Then it could actually turn out to be more valuable than ever. Though pigs might fly. Sadly.

Shefwedfan · 21-09-2019 10:25pm

Some good parts

A lot bad, Ray D’Arcy who was decent on radio brought in for huge wages to do a tv show which is now a disaster....who could have predicted that

Leave RTÉ.....get rid of the waste like 2Fm

Sleeper12 · 21-09-2019 10:31pm

I don't watch any Irish channels. Wouldn't know if it was taken off the air or not

kneemos · 21-09-2019 10:33pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I really believe we need a state broadcaster, and some of the work they do is wonderful. Ireland has an outstanding radio service for a country of our size, especially in news & current affairs, and consequently we have a very well-informed, fairly active citizenship.

All of that risks being jeopardised by unjustifiable salaries (Joe Duffy is paid better than the BBC's political editor Laura Kuennsberg, a globally recognised figure in world news); and yes, we are too insular.

That goes from an unhealthy tendency to view the world through the lens of our own self-interest, to RTÉ stars interviewing other RTÉ stars about RTÉ projects, to Áine Uí Laoithe on Raidió Na Gaeltachta (or whoever it is on the day) reading out the death notices for Chorca Dhuibhne, and counting how many children Neilí Peats will be rejoining in the family plot at Ballyferriter. Yes that happens.

If RTÉ is given another chance to get its house in order then I'll gladly keep paying my licence or broadcast fee, whichever it is. But the march of progress is beating on the door of all global media organisations, and they're still stuck in the late 1990s, believing that the licence fee will save them in the end.

Delusion is not the word.

Newstalk does a vastly better job(for free)than RTE radio,which mostly consists of misery porn.
Drivetime ain't bad though in fairness.You'd need to be deleriously happy to listen to Morning Ireland though

colm_mcm · 21-09-2019 10:35pm

Got Freesat which doesn’t have any Irish channels, I doubt I’m missing anything of value.

One More Toy · 21-09-2019 10:36pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Got Freesat which doesn’t have any Irish channels, I doubt I’m missing anything of value.

I'd get freesat but the licence inspector would see equipment visible

brick tamland · 21-09-2019 10:37pm

Have racked my brain and can only think of the tv sports coverage, which would undoubtedly end up on Virgin/sky if RTE was to fold. Nothing on the radio either.

So i guess no

Allinall · 21-09-2019 10:39pm

One More Toy wrote: »

I'd get freesat but the licence inspector would see equipment visible

Why not just pay the license?

One More Toy · 21-09-2019 10:41pm

Allinall wrote: »

Why not just pay the license?

To pay for Duffy and Co's salaries?think I'll pass

fergiesfolly · 21-09-2019 10:41pm

RTE need to be scaled back to a public service broadcaster.
One tv and one radio station.
Eliminate all the foreign tv box sets ( ER and The OC ffs)and nonsense from RTE player.
Severe pay cuts through out the organisation.
Sell Montrose and move to a warehouse on the M50.

RTE have made some really good television throughout it's history and can continue to do so, but it needs to trim the fat, concentrate on news, current affairs, investigative journalism and locally produced drama.

€50 per household or small levy on electronic devices( €5 on phone/tablet, €10 on a TV) should cover all that's needed

lertsnim · 21-09-2019 10:44pm

Get rid of 2FM as all it does is play the same crap available elsewhere. Cap wages and tell anyone who thinks they're worth more to go elsewhere.

Your Face · 21-09-2019 10:55pm

KaneToad wrote: »

So your answer would be yes

Probably too complicated for you.

punisher5112 · 21-09-2019 11:01pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Without RTE they won't end up on YouTube you tube.

Yeah but you make your own mash up.... You you you

21-09-2019 11:09pm

One More Toy wrote: »

After watching a Mrs brown's boys from 2012 just on now. Is that the best they can really do for a Saturday night? Now next up is Ray D'Arcy with zero guests of any real fame

I got 2 flyers in my postbox this week. One was an entry form for the Late Late Show competition and the other a note saying the TV license inspector had been and missed me. They came different days so weren't delivered by the same person.

For a station thats losing money, what a colossal waste of money to send out fliers to, i'm assuming most households in the country.

And what a completely half-assed, inefficient way to collect the license fee.

Spanish Eyes · 21-09-2019 11:11pm

Well just ask yourself if a strike happened in RTE tomorrow, would you be devastated or would you just go elsewhere.

Easy answer and RTE knows it now. Times have changed. They haven't kept up.

Honestly you can get all your TV shows and everything else on YouTube now or whatever platform you choose other than RTE.

fritzelly · 21-09-2019 11:11pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

A lot bad, Ray D’Arcy who was decent on radio brought in for huge wages to do a tv show which is now a disaster....who could have predicted that

D'Arcy is terrible on the radio - cannot stand more than 5 minutes of listening to him but he probably has more producers and researchers than the likes of Newstalk how have very entertaining slots and don't need us to pay them.

Need a state broadcaster but RTE is living in the 80's trying to be all things to all people but that don't work anymore. You can get the news you want from where you want now.
Keep RTE One and Radio One - let the rest go, no need for them. What purposes does RTE2 serve? Cannot remember the last time I looked at it

I Wish I Was · 21-09-2019 11:13pm

Not a bit. Never watch it.

elperello · 21-09-2019 11:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I got 2 flyers in my postbox this week. One was an entry form for the Late Late Show competition and the other a note saying the TV license inspector had been and missed me. They came different days so weren't delivered by the same person.

For a station thats losing money, what a colossal waste of money to send out fliers to, i'm assuming most households in the country.

And what a completely half-assed, inefficient way to collect the license fee.

The LLS competition flyer is part of an ad campaign so not a cost to RTE.
The TV licence notice is not a flyer and will not have been sent to all houses.

return guide · 21-09-2019 11:15pm

Have Freesat for years, never missed RTE - still play the fee though (mainly due to the wife being scared of the detection vans !!).

Funnily enough, I could not care less if they shut down the TV service but as for the radio service, I would like to keep it, for reasons unknown, even to myself...

GalwayGrrrrrl · 21-09-2019 11:20pm

I rarely watch any of the Irish channels even though i have sky channels. I watch channel 4 from UK, sky news and the BBC. Mostly I watch Netflix. Irish channels have no homegrown programmes that interest me and on the rare occasion I watch something on Irish channels it’s made in UK or America. For radio i have local radio or classic hits 4fm. Wouldn’t notice if RTE was turned off tomorrow tbh.

Spanish Eyes · 21-09-2019 11:27pm

But still RTE think their presenters are worth hundreds of thousands.

Something has to give here. Radio is a big bleed IMO.

mzungu · 21-09-2019 11:28pm

RTE does produce some great content. For the most part it does current affairs on both TV and radio quite well. The same for their sport coverage. But they need to start living in the real world. The salaries of their "stars" is grossly out of proportion with our counterparts across the water (who do that kind of thing much better). Ditch the soap imports that can be watched on any number of channels that most have access to anyway. Likewise with pointless shows that serve as a vehicle for pals of the Montrose luvvies to do a spot of self promotion. The nepotism culture should be looked at too. That's only the start of it.

Reforming that dysfunctional behemoth like RTE can only be achieved when they realise that they have all the money they need to provide a good service, the problem is that they just waste what they have. Maybe now that money is a worry for them they will make the cuts needed to become a better service to the license payer. However, my gut is that they will get the extra funding they are asking for and will end up wasting it. Then they will come back in a few years with their cap in hand again.

I want RTE to stay, but as an actual public service broadcaster. To do this they are going to have to get leaner, a lot leaner.

Junkyard Tom · 21-09-2019 11:47pm

Honestly they should be prohibited from wasting time/effort/money on broadcasting British/US TV when it can be gotten for free by just about everyone anyway.

RTE could probably spend the Licence Fee much more creatively and efficiently if they were forced to. Can you imagine the laughs Joe Duffy would get if he went abroad and asked for a similar lavish wage?

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Atlantic Dawn · 21-09-2019 11:53pm

With the head of this organisation getting a €25k annual car allowance you would think it was Google.

The State broadcaster's annual report shows the amount paid to Dee Forbes included a basic salary of a quarter of a million, a car allowance worth €25,000 along with pension contributions worth €63,000.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/report-outlines-338k-pay-package-for-rtes-director-general-851264.html

Would you miss RTÉ?

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