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Would you miss RTÉ?

  • 21-09-2019 9:54pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    After watching a Mrs brown's boys from 2012 just on now. Is that the best they can really do for a Saturday night? Now next up is Ray D'Arcy with zero guests of any real fame


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    I would not


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I haven't missed RTÉ since I stopped watching it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I don't really watch it on television.
    I only use the rte player now and that's only for matches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    RTE's insular version of Ireland is outdated, it's financial model is outdated, the medium (TV) is quickly becoming outdated, it's employees are ridiculously overpaid, I think the writing is on the wall!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    RTE's insular version of Ireland is outdated, it's financial model is outdated, the medium (TV) is quickly becoming outdated, it's employees are ridiculously overpaid, I think the writing is on the wall!

    I'm glad I don't pay the licence fee. Cut D'Arcy and Joe Duffys wage first


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,716 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


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    No miss.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    I would, their sports coverage alone is worth it imo I could do with less joe duffy though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Still on summer autopilot?

    I see very little of interest on any night. Occasionally there's a very good documentary but at stupid o clock at night. Meanwhile repeats (Fr Ted repeated to death) celebrity chefs, celebrity architects and home made imitations of other formats.

    Even the weather forecast has that twee "Ah shur the rugby is on, we'll give them the weather for Japan".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭beejee


    Havent watched television in absolutely ages. Might flick through it now and then out of habit, but rarely leave it on.

    All the internet channels are filled with even lower quality crap, with the added bonus of being divided into 500 different subscriptions.

    Think im pretty much done with the telly/"internet telly" besides dvds and blurays. Ye can keep it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    If I’m going to sit down in front of the TV, which isn’t often, I pretty much only watch Netflix. The kids exclusively watch Netflix. I don’t think they actually know we have Saorview and a Sky subscription (they I kept meaning to cancel). Haven’t watched broadcast TV in months. I don’t have anything against RTÉ, but I wouldn’t miss the TV channels. I actively despise all radio, so I certainly wouldn’t miss that. I do use the RTE News app, so I’d miss it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,560 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I would for sure.
    No matter what complaints we have about it RTE is the best we have and it needs to be nurtured not constantly denigrated.
    Let's look at it in a mature way and see what changes and improvements can be made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Yes of course I would for there thrilling of the seat type of TV like fairly Sh1ty and phone box where Collin fardel stared and balliskissangle...

    Oh glenroe is meant to be making a come back....

    Repeats of father Ted.. I actually don't mind this as I'd still watch it but all the other sh1te... Ugh


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    RTE has it's place in Irish history but it's not relevant anymore and hasn't been for many years. It should be cut loose to sink or swim on it's own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    I would, their sports coverage alone is worth it imo I could do with less joe duffy though

    Sports coverage? They have lost most rights to big events. The only things they have exclusive rights to are League of Ireland and Club GAA mainly because no one else wants them and they are cheap. Everything else is available on other channels.

    RTE could be slimmed down to a single channel and the current home grown programmes still wouldn't fill it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    Id miss it if it went away completely as we do need a state broadcaster but RTE is a state broadcaster trying to be a commercial entertainment channel.
    I think it should stop paying huge money to its staff and on buying in Foreign TV shows and concentrate on local and regional programming like a state broadcaster should. It should live within the means of the revenue brought in by the TV licence and stop chasing advertising revenue to support itself and its wannabe business model.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I think it's more important than ever to have a national broadcaster but RTE is a case study in how not to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Your Face wrote: »
    I don't really watch it on television.
    I only use the rte player now and that's only for matches.

    So your answer would be yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    I'd miss...

    Documentary on One
    Scannal
    Reeling in the Years
    Morning Ireland
    The John Creedon Show
    *whispers* The South Wind Blows
    Mystery Train

    Probably some other stuff too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Ray D'Arcy has the fake laugh down to a T


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I'd miss...

    Documentary on One
    Scannal
    Reeling in the Years
    Morning Ireland
    The John Creedon Show
    *whispers* The South Wind Blows
    Mystery Train

    Probably some other stuff too.

    YouTube without the ads for you my friend....


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RTE's insular version of Ireland is outdated, it's financial model is outdated, the medium (TV) is quickly becoming outdated, it's employees are ridiculously overpaid, I think the writing is on the wall!
    I really believe we need a state broadcaster, and some of the work they do is wonderful. Ireland has an outstanding radio service for a country of our size, especially in news & current affairs, and consequently we have a very well-informed, fairly active citizenship.

    All of that risks being jeopardised by unjustifiable salaries (Joe Duffy is paid better than the BBC's political editor Laura Kuennsberg, a globally recognised figure in world news); and yes, we are too insular.

    That goes from an unhealthy tendency to view the world through the lens of our own self-interest, to RTÉ stars interviewing other RTÉ stars about RTÉ projects, to Áine Uí Laoithe on Raidió Na Gaeltachta (or whoever it is on the day) reading out the death notices for Chorca Dhuibhne, and counting how many children Neilí Peats will be rejoining in the family plot at Ballyferriter. Yes that happens.

    If RTÉ is given another chance to get its house in order then I'll gladly keep paying my licence or broadcast fee, whichever it is. But the march of progress is beating on the door of all global media organisations, and they're still stuck in the late 1990s, believing that the licence fee will save them in the end.

    Delusion is not the word.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    The last show I liked from rte was paths to freedom. How many years ago was that. And I suppose they launched the rubberbandits (albeit to a limit extent)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    YouTube without the ads for you my friend....

    Without RTE they won't end up on YouTube you tube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,230 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    I would miss RTE Sports coverage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,552 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    It'll get to the point where all new foreign content or sports will have it's own distribution, you'll be stuck with RTE's own muck and all the classic rerun shows will be strictly to one VOD services or the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,703 ✭✭✭corks finest


    No


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd certainly miss idea of and much of her history in a big way, but that idea is long diluted under bad management and the history, is well, history. I certainly wouldn't want to be "Reeling in" the last few years of its output.

    It must adapt and become a slimmed down, open to all Irish voices, trusted relevant source to the Irish man and woman on the street and beyond. Then it could actually turn out to be more valuable than ever. Though pigs might fly. Sadly. :(

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Some good parts

    A lot bad, Ray D’Arcy who was decent on radio brought in for huge wages to do a tv show which is now a disaster....who could have predicted that

    Leave RTÉ.....get rid of the waste like 2Fm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I don't watch any Irish channels. Wouldn't know if it was taken off the air or not


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I really believe we need a state broadcaster, and some of the work they do is wonderful. Ireland has an outstanding radio service for a country of our size, especially in news & current affairs, and consequently we have a very well-informed, fairly active citizenship.

    All of that risks being jeopardised by unjustifiable salaries (Joe Duffy is paid better than the BBC's political editor Laura Kuennsberg, a globally recognised figure in world news); and yes, we are too insular.

    That goes from an unhealthy tendency to view the world through the lens of our own self-interest, to RTÉ stars interviewing other RTÉ stars about RTÉ projects, to Áine Uí Laoithe on Raidió Na Gaeltachta (or whoever it is on the day) reading out the death notices for Chorca Dhuibhne, and counting how many children Neilí Peats will be rejoining in the family plot at Ballyferriter. Yes that happens.

    If RTÉ is given another chance to get its house in order then I'll gladly keep paying my licence or broadcast fee, whichever it is. But the march of progress is beating on the door of all global media organisations, and they're still stuck in the late 1990s, believing that the licence fee will save them in the end.

    Delusion is not the word.


    Newstalk does a vastly better job(for free)than RTE radio,which mostly consists of misery porn.
    Drivetime ain't bad though in fairness.You'd need to be deleriously happy to listen to Morning Ireland though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Got Freesat which doesn’t have any Irish channels, I doubt I’m missing anything of value.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Got Freesat which doesn’t have any Irish channels, I doubt I’m missing anything of value.

    I'd get freesat but the licence inspector would see equipment visible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Have racked my brain and can only think of the tv sports coverage, which would undoubtedly end up on Virgin/sky if RTE was to fold. Nothing on the radio either.

    So i guess no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,823 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I'd get freesat but the licence inspector would see equipment visible

    Why not just pay the license?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Allinall wrote: »
    Why not just pay the license?

    To pay for Duffy and Co's salaries?think I'll pass


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    RTE need to be scaled back to a public service broadcaster.
    One tv and one radio station.
    Eliminate all the foreign tv box sets ( ER and The OC ffs)and nonsense from RTE player.
    Severe pay cuts through out the organisation.
    Sell Montrose and move to a warehouse on the M50.

    RTE have made some really good television throughout it's history and can continue to do so, but it needs to trim the fat, concentrate on news, current affairs, investigative journalism and locally produced drama.

    €50 per household or small levy on electronic devices( €5 on phone/tablet, €10 on a TV) should cover all that's needed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,803 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Get rid of 2FM as all it does is play the same crap available elsewhere. Cap wages and tell anyone who thinks they're worth more to go elsewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    KaneToad wrote: »
    So your answer would be yes

    Probably too complicated for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Without RTE they won't end up on YouTube you tube.

    Yeah but you make your own mash up.... You you you


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    After watching a Mrs brown's boys from 2012 just on now. Is that the best they can really do for a Saturday night? Now next up is Ray D'Arcy with zero guests of any real fame


    I got 2 flyers in my postbox this week. One was an entry form for the Late Late Show competition and the other a note saying the TV license inspector had been and missed me. They came different days so weren't delivered by the same person.

    For a station thats losing money, what a colossal waste of money to send out fliers to, i'm assuming most households in the country.

    And what a completely half-assed, inefficient way to collect the license fee.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Well just ask yourself if a strike happened in RTE tomorrow, would you be devastated or would you just go elsewhere.

    Easy answer and RTE knows it now. Times have changed. They haven't kept up.

    Honestly you can get all your TV shows and everything else on YouTube now or whatever platform you choose other than RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    A lot bad, Ray D’Arcy who was decent on radio brought in for huge wages to do a tv show which is now a disaster....who could have predicted that

    D'Arcy is terrible on the radio - cannot stand more than 5 minutes of listening to him but he probably has more producers and researchers than the likes of Newstalk how have very entertaining slots and don't need us to pay them.

    Need a state broadcaster but RTE is living in the 80's trying to be all things to all people but that don't work anymore. You can get the news you want from where you want now.
    Keep RTE One and Radio One - let the rest go, no need for them. What purposes does RTE2 serve? Cannot remember the last time I looked at it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 I Wish I Was


    Not a bit. Never watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,560 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I got 2 flyers in my postbox this week. One was an entry form for the Late Late Show competition and the other a note saying the TV license inspector had been and missed me. They came different days so weren't delivered by the same person.

    For a station thats losing money, what a colossal waste of money to send out fliers to, i'm assuming most households in the country.

    And what a completely half-assed, inefficient way to collect the license fee.

    The LLS competition flyer is part of an ad campaign so not a cost to RTE.
    The TV licence notice is not a flyer and will not have been sent to all houses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭return guide


    Have Freesat for years, never missed RTE - still play the fee though (mainly due to the wife being scared of the detection vans !!).

    Funnily enough, I could not care less if they shut down the TV service but as for the radio service, I would like to keep it, for reasons unknown, even to myself...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭GalwayGrrrrrl


    I rarely watch any of the Irish channels even though i have sky channels. I watch channel 4 from UK, sky news and the BBC. Mostly I watch Netflix. Irish channels have no homegrown programmes that interest me and on the rare occasion I watch something on Irish channels it’s made in UK or America. For radio i have local radio or classic hits 4fm. Wouldn’t notice if RTE was turned off tomorrow tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    But still RTE think their presenters are worth hundreds of thousands.

    Something has to give here. Radio is a big bleed IMO.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    RTE does produce some great content. For the most part it does current affairs on both TV and radio quite well. The same for their sport coverage. But they need to start living in the real world. The salaries of their "stars" is grossly out of proportion with our counterparts across the water (who do that kind of thing much better). Ditch the soap imports that can be watched on any number of channels that most have access to anyway. Likewise with pointless shows that serve as a vehicle for pals of the Montrose luvvies to do a spot of self promotion. The nepotism culture should be looked at too. That's only the start of it.

    Reforming that dysfunctional behemoth like RTE can only be achieved when they realise that they have all the money they need to provide a good service, the problem is that they just waste what they have. Maybe now that money is a worry for them they will make the cuts needed to become a better service to the license payer. However, my gut is that they will get the extra funding they are asking for and will end up wasting it. Then they will come back in a few years with their cap in hand again.

    I want RTE to stay, but as an actual public service broadcaster. To do this they are going to have to get leaner, a lot leaner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Honestly they should be prohibited from wasting time/effort/money on broadcasting British/US TV when it can be gotten for free by just about everyone anyway.

    RTE could probably spend the Licence Fee much more creatively and efficiently if they were forced to. Can you imagine the laughs Joe Duffy would get if he went abroad and asked for a similar lavish wage?





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    With the head of this organisation getting a €25k annual car allowance you would think it was Google.
    The State broadcaster's annual report shows the amount paid to Dee Forbes included a basic salary of a quarter of a million, a car allowance worth €25,000 along with pension contributions worth €63,000.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/report-outlines-338k-pay-package-for-rtes-director-general-851264.html


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