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Nude sauna

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  • #102
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    I don's know if it's prudish or not, but Irish people are just not as comfortable or natural in the company of other naked people, especially not those of the opposite gender. It's either "I'd get excited!" or "all that flesh hanging out" which gives me the impression that you don't know how to conduct yourself in the that kind of company. It does strike me as childrish though.

    Or the third option, it's just not my type of thing. If it's other people's thing that's fine. Not everybody has to like it, and the disinterest doesn't have to be rooted in prudishness or childishness.


  • #103
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    It's a sight/experience I'd be willing to forego, despite the devastating risk of a drop in my sophistication rating... :(


  • #104
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    If you like getting your kit off with other people, feel free to do so. But spare people that don't want to - for whatever reasons - the patronising assumption that they are uptight or prudish in some way.


  • #105
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Dudess wrote: »
    It's a sight/experience I'd be willing to forego, despite the devastating risk of a drop in my sophistication rating... :(

    Fair enough.

    You could be hanging 'bad beef' I believe is the expression.No worries there.

    Get a bit of confidence girl, nobody will notice the droop and the slack bits.

    Nobody's perfect;)


  • #106
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I'm referring more to the sight you described. My "beef" is still in pretty tidy stead...


  • #107
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Dudess wrote: »
    I'm referring more to the sight you described. My "beef" is still in pretty tidy stead...

    :o

    sorry , got it wrong there.

    Erm.... I'll take your word for it..... sorry again.


  • #108
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    And if it's "prudish", that implies nudity = sexual... yet I thought nudist events/gathering places were non sexual... so it's a bit confuzzling.


  • #109
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    :o

    sorry , got it wrong there.

    Erm.... I'll take your word for it..... sorry again.

    What's with all the apologies Flutt'!?!:eek:

    Not usually your thing? Or are you lining yourself up for an attack!?!:p


  • #110
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    What's with all the apologies Flutt'!?!:eek:

    Not usually your thing? Or are you lining yourself up for an attack!?!:p


    No, au contraire, I always acknowledge when I think I am in the wrong.

    Now that you mention it , there were two tonight, must be weakening.:eek:


    I will always admit it if I think I'm wrong.

    ( could have another one to make on the would've thread)


  • #111
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,629 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    prinz wrote: »
    Or the third option, it's just not my type of thing. If it's other people's thing that's fine. Not everybody has to like it, and the disinterest doesn't have to be rooted in prudishness or childishness.

    Oh, I completely agree - it's just the reason I think it hasn't taken off here. I wasn't for one second suggesting that every Irish person who doesn't take to it is a pervert or a prude, but these attitudes do exist. Especially in rural areas.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #112
    airman101
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭airman101


    its just nudity and people are reading waaaayyyyyyyy too much into it!!!
    if your interested give it a go if your not interested thats ok too!!!!


  • #113
    BBDBB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Ive been sat here naked since this thread started and been aroused the entire time.................not one complaint:D


  • #114
    malkmoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭malkmoose


    airman101 wrote: »
    its just nudity and people are reading waaaayyyyyyyy too much into it!!!
    if your interested give it a go if your not interested thats ok too!!!!

    Spot on. Whatever you're in to, take it or leave it. I was just defending Nude Sauna's against people calling it elitist, fascist and painting it in a sleazy sinister light.


  • #115
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I can barely look a girl in the face when she has clothes on - never mind when she's in the raw. I wouldn't know what to be doing with myself in a nude sauna. Well I would but I don't know how much it would be appreciated! :eek:


  • #116
    gonedrinking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    What is the protocol when you get a boner? Do you just cover it with a towel? Or do you politely excuse yourself and go blow your load in the jacks?


  • #117
    airman101
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭airman101


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    What is the protocol when you get a boner? Do you just cover it with a towel? Or do you politely excuse yourself and go blow your load in the jacks?

    dont generally have that problem around older women and children to be honest....


  • #118
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    airman101 wrote: »
    dont generally have that problem around older women and children to be honest....

    I would be trying so hard not to get a boner, not to have impure thoughts and not to look at anyone that I would just end up with the most raging stiffie of my life anyhow.


  • #119
    airman101
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭airman101


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    I would be trying so hard not to get a boner, not to have impure thoughts and not to look at anyone that I would just end up with the most raging stiffie of my life anyhow.

    it just does not happen, trust me im sure every naturist has had that worry when they started out!!


  • #120
    [Deleted User]
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    As airman says above it generally just “does not happen”. I have been in enough situations myself to be pretty confident this is true.

    I have never had an issue with nudity but I think it might have a lot to do with when I was young. The group of friends I had at the time, male and female, were entirely ok with changing in front of each other, staying naked in front of each other, skinny dipping and more. I guess that just stuck with me.

    Me and the girlfriends went to Germany as well - as other people on the thread have – and found exactly what is being described here. Mix sex saunas with people of all ages. I did not see any discomfort apparent on any faces nor any unwanted arousal. I did not see anyone there who was perving on any women, girls or children.

    Recently in my house we were having a session over the Rugby. Few beers were had but not many and somehow a bet between the girls and the guys arose where in the Italy France game if Italy could win then the girls had to “get the kits off” for the rest of the night – and vice versa if France won. Of course most of us expected France to win but Italy pulled off the shock.

    For the first… 10 minutes maybe the girls were in bits, giggles, shyness, covering up and the guys were doing some immature comments and the like. After this however things settled down and it just stopped being a real issue. Nudity and Sex are very much separable things and context is of massive importance.

    Hanging out in a party… or a sauna… with people who are naked is not the tidal wave of arousal people are sometimes afraid it will be and although it was of course fun to be hanging out in a party where all the girls were naked… it certainly does not fit into the image that many people on the thread would likely have of it.

    It is not for everyone of course and I have recently engaged in building an outdoor Jacuzzi in my garden for which I hope to have two “opening night” parties in June. The first of these nights will be “nude only” in the pool itself. The second of these nights is for those friends who just do not feel comfortable doing the nude thing. No one considers them “prudes” or any of the names being used on the thread. We just realize that nudity is not something everyone wants to share. We also realize that those who do want to share it with you are giving you a compliment different to many others in terms of the level of trust they have in you.


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  • #121
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Rabies wrote: »
    Irish people are generally too afraid to get naked with the lights on.
    Usually need to be drunk too.

    Much better when you're not drunk.


  • #122
    airman101
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭airman101


    very well put tax ah cruel... some do and some dont.... no shame either way!!! i myself am looking forward to the weekly crumlin swim...


  • #123
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    harry bullfinch wrote: »
    hi,just had my first nude sauna with my wife in europe and found it very exhilarating,notting pervy about it as it natural to do it that way and every one else was naked to,is the anywere in ireland that allowys this.

    PICS OR GTFO


  • #124
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    The only sauna I've been in in Ireland was naked, though single sex, so I assumed they all were.


  • #125
    BBDBB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    What is the protocol when you get a boner? Do you just cover it with a towel? Or do you politely excuse yourself and go blow your load in the jacks?



    finish the Assembly, send the kids back to class and go back to your office for a lie down


  • #126
    Liberal Irishman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Liberal Irishman


    harry bullfinch wrote: »
    Can you sauna nude in Ireland and if so were ???????


    There are gay saunas in Ireland where nude is the norm. Biggest is probably the boilerhouse in Dublin, if that’s your thing!


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  • #127
    Liberal Irishman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Liberal Irishman


    airman101 wrote: »
    Hi all, there is a nudist swim in Crumlin swimming pool on Wednesday evenings between 8 and 9pm, its excellent, nothing sexual, all types of people and all shapes of bodies, nothing to be embarassed about, give it a go.,...

    Do they have a jacuzzi there?


  • #128
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    latenia wrote: »
    The whole naturism thing is a little bit "Third Reichish" for me and I find it interesting that the movement sprung from the same era and locations that gave us fascism.
    Clothes have developed into a lot more than just something to keep us warm-we cover up our lower halves as a sign that we aren't just animals who sh1t, piss and fuck.
    I don't buy the whole prudish Irish thing either-are continental males different that they don't get turned on by naked women?


    eh ? the scandinavians and western russians have done " the naturism " thing for hundreds of years , germany might have only started in recent times , post 20's i would imagine but dont know for sure
    my wife is finnish , in her family they still have her great grandfathers house/farm and i have seen a nearly 150 year old sauna , that's a long time before fascism became fashionable in northern Europe .

    and for a measure in the difference of our attitudes against the Scandinavians - Finns in particular
    i visited some neighbors of the in laws , never met this family before , within 30 minutes i was naked in the sauna with the father of the family having a beer , with his wife and his two kids , also my wife and my daughter
    this kind of thing is totally normal if find in Finland .

    i also went to a local hotel with a swimming pool , went in got changed , walked out of my changing cubical and was confronted by a 18 year old absolute slamming hottie in tight shorts , she worked cleaning the area
    place filled with naked blokes of all ages and body type and no one gave a **** - did i mention i was naked

    one thing about being in a group naked situation is you are really aware of how ****ing WHITE irish people are :eek: i looked like a bowling pin


  • #129
    Sonnenblumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    **** it anyway! I spent a whole WEEK in finland and never heard about the nudie saunas :(

    Bogland noticed your absence.


  • #130
    latenia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    and i have seen a nearly 150 year old sauna , that's a long time before fascism became fashionable in northern Europe .

    There is a difference between saunas, particularly those in a domestic or localised setting, where nudity is more of a practicality and a comfort issue and the type of naturism I'm referring to. I don't even have a problem with people doing their own thing at a quiet beach or lake if that's what they prefer.
    It's the mass gatherings of people at beaches or camps where there is undoubtably an element of exhibitionism combined with smug superiority that I'm criticising here.


  • #131
    saatana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 38 ✭saatana


    Wearing any garment in a sauna is distinctly uncomfortable. It is never done in the Nordic region, where the sauna (or "bastu" as it is called in Sweden or "badstue" in Norway) is an integral part of the people's lifestyle. Mixed bathing is common (but not the general rule) within families and among close friends. No big deal. Don't worry about getting, as they say in parts of Ireland, "a brang" in the sauna. It's not likely in a temperature of up to 110 degree C (ideally around 95).


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  • #132
    Emiko
    Closed Accounts Posts: 449 ✭✭Emiko


    I used to go to one regularly abroad.

    The changing rooms were unisex, the showers were unisex, and everyone was nude apart from the occasional woman covering her modesty with a towel.

    It was all very relaxed, and no big deal for anybody.


  • #133
    heidi_ho
    Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭heidi_ho


    Last year the oil man that used to deliver my oil asked me to join him and his wife in a naked sauna.
    I politely declined and never ordered from that company again

    Not that I wouldn't be open to the idea but just not with him and his wife at his house... i;d be scared and scarred for life i would imagine!


  • #134
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    heidi_ho wrote: »
    Last year the oil man that used to deliver my oil asked me to join him and his wife in a naked sauna.
    I politely declined and never ordered from that company again

    Not that I wouldn't be open to the idea but just not with him and his wife at his house... i;d be scared and scarred for life i would imagine!

    Look at you boasting bout your oil man.............:pac:


  • #135
    heidi_ho
    Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭heidi_ho


    mattjack wrote: »
    Look at you boasting bout your oil man.............:pac:

    Hardly boasting, AND he's my ex-oil man!


  • #136
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    latenia wrote: »
    There is a difference between saunas, particularly those in a domestic or localised setting, where nudity is more of a practicality and a comfort issue and the type of naturism I'm referring to. I don't even have a problem with people doing their own thing at a quiet beach or lake if that's what they prefer.
    It's the mass gatherings of people at beaches or camps where there is undoubtably an element of exhibitionism combined with smug superiority that I'm criticising here.


    ok but your forgetting the rights of the nudists , and ill give you a example

    i used to run a bar in germany , busy irish bar
    we have a customer who won the right in a german court to walk around naked when and where he liked ( out in public not in private business )
    it was in the middle of a tourist area - very like temple bar but with less puke but more serial killers

    he used to wander around sunday evenings in " temple bar " with nothing but flip flops and a yellow sports walk man
    now family's would sit next to him and eat and other would drink with him , some bars let him in , some did not
    most people did not care because like me i realized it was just a naked bloke , i just got used to him , very soon he was a normal ( ? ) as everyone else

    my point being , he was doing no harm , if it bothered you then just dont look at him , and it was as simple as that


  • #137
    Needler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    and i have seen a nearly 150 year old sauna

    Yea well I have seen a nearly 150 year old in a sauna.

    I don't go into them anymore now


  • #138
    Captain Darling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    harry bullfinch wrote: »
    hi,just had my first nude sauna with my wife in europe and found it very exhilarating,notting pervy about it as it natural to do it that way and every one else was naked to,is the anywere in ireland that allowys this.

    Why would you describe it as exhilarating? Was the sauna on a roller-coaster at fucking Eurodisney?

    Its only a bit of fcuking flesh for jaysus sakes.


  • #139
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Have not read all the posts but would these nude saunas be breeding grounds for infections and the like.


  • #140
    Needler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    Have not read all the posts but would these nude saunas be breeding grounds for infections and the like.

    Nah they can't survive the 70 degree and higher temperatures


  • #141
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Needler wrote: »
    Nah they can't survive the 70 degree and higher temperatures

    Just checked it out on google I think I will have to disagree.;)


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  • #142
    Needler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    Just checked it out on google I think I will have to disagree.;)

    Whats the right answer so? LETHAL LADY killed all the infections because she's so LETHAL?


  • #143
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Ok keep your hair on just personally would not use a nude sauna that is all.


  • #144
    Solair
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    As for the posts further up the thread about prudishness and a fear of nudity being an Irish thing. It applies in all English-speaking countries to a large degree.

    Most Brits would be *extremely* uncomfortable about nude saunas, same goes for Americans etc etc.

    It's good old Victorian prudishness, nothing to do with Ireland or Catholic values or anything else.

    Let's not forget the Victorians went for a swim in the sea in a "Bathing Machine" which was basically a garden shed with water holes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathing_machine

    You couldn't even say "leg" in polite company : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_morality

    Check out this very very very stern and totally proper guide to conjugal rights : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ivsb79-h90 (Harry Enfield and Chums)

    Don't worry mods, it is about the least explicit thing you could ever see!


  • #145
    Unpossible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    Have not read all the posts but would these nude saunas be breeding grounds for infections and the like.
    I was told that back in the old days women were brought into the sauna when giving birth, the sauna was obviously not "on" and we are talking over a hundred years ago when small communities of houses had a shared sauna. Or at least that what was said to me, could just be one of those tales they tell foreigners.

    As for infections in modern times, when in a sauna ideally you are expected to sit on either:
    Your own cloth (like a face cloth),
    Your own towel,
    A paper/disposable towel provided by the sauna incase you only brought the one towel.
    In reality I almost never brought my own towel and usually forgot about the disposable ones.


  • #146
    Needler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    Ok keep your hair on just personally would not use a nude sauna that is all.

    but the nude sauna would be interesting if people didn't have their hair on


  • #147
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    ixoy wrote: »
    Visited Tokyo last year and tried out the hot spas. They were sex-segregated and very strict on no swimwear being worn in the waters.

    Why did this image pop into my head when I read that?

    http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9ofumTSe01qdhchbo1_500.jpg


  • #148
    Taloolah
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Taloolah


    So bottom line is: Ireland - prudish about nudity, Scandinavian countries not so much.

    Personally, I like that countries have differences. If we were all the same how boring would that be?

    So Ireland's 'character' is that of being uptight in saunas - how about we embrace our personality instead of trying to fit in wit the cool kids?

    Just putting it out there...


  • #149
    jester77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Taloolah wrote: »
    So bottom line is: Ireland - prudish about nudity, Scandinavian countries not so much.

    Personally, I like that countries have differences. If we were all the same how boring would that be?

    So Ireland's 'character' is that of being uptight in saunas - how about we embrace our personality instead of trying to fit in wit the cool kids?

    Just putting it out there...

    Took you 18 months to draw that conclusion :confused:


  • #150
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    I go at the gym all the time, but just wear a towel. Is that acceptable?


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  • #151
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    I'd say most Irish people just don't fancy getting their kit off in front of strangers/the sight of sagging bodies. Can't see how that's necessarily prudish.


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