Dad finds out that none of his kids are biologically his.

josip · 10-01-2019 4:40pm #1

Fcuking hell. As if being diagnosed with cystic fibrosis wasn't bad enough.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-46827601/the-dad-who-found-out-he-wasn-t-his-kids-biological-father

Not all happy families, 2 of his sons aren't talking to him and have asked why he's making all this public.

razorblunt · 10-01-2019 4:42pm

Sweet jesus, the poor fella.

Grayson · 10-01-2019 4:43pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Sweet jesus, the poor fella.

And the kids. Can you imagine finding out that your dad isn't your dad? Especially since there are 5. That's a big family.

Deebles McBeebles · 10-01-2019 4:45pm

Oh man. Mrs. Mason has some answering to do. What a vile shrew.

ZiabR · 10-01-2019 4:48pm

Thats shocking stuff. The poor guy.

BrokenArrows · 10-01-2019 4:50pm

Wonder will he ever see a penny of the 250k

valoren · 10-01-2019 4:50pm

And she got £4 million from their divorce.
Her reputation, in whatever life she lives, is destroyed.

ZiabR · 10-01-2019 4:52pm

valoren wrote: »

And she got £4 million from their divorce.
Her reputation, in whatever life she lives, is destroyed.

If she got 4 million from him, then I am sure she can afford to pay him 250k.

What a snake.

JustJoe7240 · 10-01-2019 4:52pm

Grayson wrote: »

And the kids. Can you imagine finding out that your dad isn't your dad? Especially since there are 5. That's a big family.

3 kids, still awful none the less.

razorblunt · 10-01-2019 4:52pm

BrokenArrows wrote: »

Wonder will he ever see a penny of the 250k

She has £4m from the divorce, I know money can't replace what he's lost but he should make sure it's paid.

Yes, thoughts for the kids too, of course, I really hope this is a case of "any guy can be a father, you need to work at being a Dad" holds true.

Captain Obvious · 10-01-2019 4:53pm

Takes a real horrible person to do something like that to a man. And not just once. She must be a right deceitful cow. I think paternity testing should be offered to all couples as standard. It can have so many consequences to think the wrong person is the dad. Financial, psychological, medical.

facehugger99 · 10-01-2019 4:53pm

He's so moneysupermarket.

valoren · 10-01-2019 4:56pm

facehugger99 wrote: »

He's so moneysupermarket.

moneysupermarket.conned

:pac:

"Richard, you are NOT the father!!!"

pleas advice · 10-01-2019 5:03pm

If you ain't no punk
Holla, "We want prenup! We want prenup!" (Yeah!)

It's somethin' that you need to have
‘Cause when she leave yo' ass, she gon' leave with half
Eighteen years, eighteen years
And on the 18th birthday he found out it wasn't his?!

Junkyard Tom · 10-01-2019 5:06pm

How do we know that his wife is the real Mother?

Deebles McBeebles · 10-01-2019 5:16pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

How do we know that his wife is the real Mother?

Sh*t just got Jeremy Kyle'd.

Icemancometh · 10-01-2019 5:25pm

Maternity is a fact, paternity is an opinion.

orourkeda1977 · 10-01-2019 5:28pm

This woman should be prosecuted for fraud.

gctest50 · 10-01-2019 5:28pm

Icemancometh wrote: »

Maternity is a fact, paternity is an opinion.

Being balls deep in yer neighbours wife is an opinion now ? Ah the young people, new words every day

"I was just giving her my opinion "

10-01-2019 5:30pm

gctest50 wrote: »

Being balls deep in yer neighbours wife is an opinion now ? Ah the young people, new words every day

"I was just giving her my opinion "

afterwards, sullenly:

"id like a second opinion"

LollipopJimmy · 10-01-2019 5:31pm

His He-Man and Skeletor ads are ****ing awesome though, maybe he can rewatch them and have a titter.

gctest50 · 10-01-2019 5:44pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

.................

It can have so many consequences to think the wrong person is the dad. Financial, psychological, medical.

And deprive the nurses of the one bit of joy ?

Blood Type Bingo !

" No way yer man is the father, look at him "

"Ah stop, he is "

"Euro so ? "

"Sound !"

Ariadne · 10-01-2019 5:54pm

Pretty shyte being diagnosed with CF, I should know

but then finding out you're infertile so your kids aren't yours, that's some blow. Also wondering how the wife managed to do that three times. Like once is bad enough but three?!

Mam of 4 · 10-01-2019 5:57pm

What is wrong with this woman that she would deliberately con her husband like this ?
Seriously , that's not normal behaviour in any way shape or form .

Vile , vile person to do that imo.

gctest50 · 10-01-2019 6:04pm

Mam of 4 wrote: »

........

Seriously , that's not normal behaviour in any way shape or form .

It goes on a fair bit

Up to 1 in 6 Canadians are victims of paternity fraud

Mam of 4 · 10-01-2019 6:10pm

gctest50 wrote: »

It goes on a fair bit

Up to 1 in 6 Canadians are victims of paternity fraud

I think it's one of the worst things you could do to the person you're supposed to love , and to the child/children involved .

10-01-2019 6:13pm

A complete and utter piece of shlt. Poor man.

gctest50 · 10-01-2019 6:20pm

Mam of 4 wrote: »

I think it's one of the worst things you could do to the person you're supposed to love , and to the child/children involved .

Maybe she doesn't like filling the ould forms

Waterstone Fertility has been helping couples conceive using donor sperm since 2002.

James Brown · 10-01-2019 6:33pm

I thought this was a Prince Charles thread.

jmayo · 10-01-2019 6:41pm

Succubus_ wrote: »

Pretty shyte being diagnosed with CF, I should know but then finding out you're infertile so your kids aren't yours, that's some blow. Also wondering how the wife managed to do that three times. Like once is bad enough but three?!

Nah she only did it twice. Two of them are twins AFAIK.
Look like she had 4 year affair with some colleague but always claimed they used protection. :rolleyes:

The sons haven't been talking to their supposed dad anyway for few years. One saying he was manipulative.
The marriage broke up years ago, but he still thought the lads were his sons.
And I reckon the release of this story to the newspapers now is a fook you to the lot of them, although he says he wants to talk to the lads.

I reckon these incidents are a lot more common than people think.

RacoonQueen · 10-01-2019 6:46pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

T I think paternity testing should be offered to all couples as standard.

Jaysus, that would be some destruction to a relationship if yer man says he wants the paternity test and she hasn't as much as looked at another bloke.

goose2005 · 10-01-2019 6:54pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Takes a real horrible person to do something like that to a man. And not just once. She must be a right deceitful cow. I think paternity testing should be offered to all couples as standard. It can have so many consequences to think the wrong person is the dad. Financial, psychological, medical.

the problem is, it would lead to quite a few murders

ceadaoin. · 10-01-2019 6:56pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Jaysus, that would be some destruction to a relationship if yer man says he wants the paternity test and she hasn't as much as looked at another bloke.

Imagine the government offering a service based on the premise that women are deceitful cheats. Nothing wrong with that at all. Nope

Let's also make all males submit dna based on the premise that they are all potential rapists. That would help with finding the fathers too. What's not to like? Wonder would that go down so well on here?

Aside from the fact that it's minority of women who do this, surely it could lead to violence and endanger the lives of women and children, and the men who might be the father, in some cases

If someone has concerns about paternity they can arrange their own test. It's not something that should be mandatory or offered as a service for all couples.

hatrickpatrick · 10-01-2019 7:04pm

The concept that caring about one's genetic lineage - considered by many to be the ultimate meaning of life - is somehow silly or childish, which is often pedalled in feminist forums when the subject of paternity fraud comes up, is something I find unbelievably disturbing and genuingly just very saddening. The idea that a man shouldn't care whether or not he's successfully propagated his genetic line which has replicated itself for the last four billion years, and has no right to be upset or pissed off at discovering that he's been lied to about it, is utterly twisted and repulsive - but it's frightening just how frequent the argument is, that as long as you develop an emotional bond, you shouldn't care whether your own blood flows through your kid's veins and that you're somehow a lesser person if you do.

I really hope it's just a fringe belief on the internet, because it's just incredible sad. To the nihilistic mind, if life is here by accident then it's a beautiful convergence of happenstance, and being denied the chance to take part in that by being falsely told that you already have, is monstrous.

hatrickpatrick · 10-01-2019 7:05pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Imagine the government offering a service based on the premise that women are deceitful cheats. Nothing wrong with that at all. Nope

Why shouldn't every father and son have an absolute guarantee of their genetic identity, rather than having to rely on a third party to choose to provide it?

Alrigghtythen · 10-01-2019 7:06pm

She should have to pay him every red cent he contributed to raising those children, and the 4 million.

Scummy thing to do but happens more than is though

Jurgen Klopp · 10-01-2019 7:12pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The concept that caring about one's genetic lineage - considered by many to be the ultimate meaning of life - is somehow silly or childish, which is often pedalled in feminist forums when the subject of paternity fraud comes up, is something I find unbelievably disturbing and genuingly just very saddening. The idea that a man shouldn't care whether or not he's successfully propagated his genetic line which has replicated itself for the last four billion years, and has no right to be upset or pissed off at discovering that he's been lied to about it, is utterly twisted and repulsive - but it's frightening just how frequent the argument is, that as long as you develop an emotional bond, you shouldn't care whether your own blood flows through your kid's veins and that you're somehow a lesser person if you do.

I really hope it's just a fringe belief on the internet, because it's just incredible sad. To the nihilistic mind, if life is here by accident then it's a beautiful convergence of happenstance, and being denied the chance to take part in that by being falsely told that you already have, is monstrous.

It's only a small amount. 99% of men and women are seething when such things are revealed

You mention feminist forums, there's gonna be a higher percentage of nuts who think it's ok to do that on a forum like that compared to a general forum and then even less so in real life

ceadaoin. · 10-01-2019 7:13pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why shouldn't every father and son have an absolute guarantee of their genetic identity, rather than having to rely on a third party to choose to provide it?

If they want that there is nothing stopping them paying for it privately. Also, why only father and son?

Fiery mutant · 10-01-2019 7:14pm

So a woman with no apparent talent of her own gets 4 million in divorce, just because she happened to marry someone who was an entrepreneur and a hard worker who would work his ass off to give his family a great life.

Said hard working man who spent his life busting his gut for his family, then finds his whole married life was a con, then only gets awarded €250k for his trouble.

What a ****ed up world we live in.

gctest50 · 10-01-2019 7:19pm

Fiery mutant wrote: »

who was an entrepreneur and a hard worker who would work his ass off to give his family a great life.

Maybe he wouldn't have "made it" without her help at the critical early stages - most startup thingys fail

ceadaoin. · 10-01-2019 7:27pm

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

It's only a small amount. 99% of men and women are seething when such things are revealed

You mention feminist forums, there's gonna be a higher percentage of nuts who think it's ok to do that on a forum like that compared to a general forum and then even less so in real life

I don't know, I don't think even "feminist nuts" think it's ok to do this. Probably they are more thinking of the impact on the kids of having the person they grew up thinking was their father suddenly disappear. Surely trying to maintain some kind of relationship is best for everyone. No doubt the "father" will also love the children like his own.

In this case I think the kids had already cut contact with him due to his behaviour.

0cp71eyxkb94qf · 10-01-2019 7:31pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Jaysus, that would be some destruction to a relationship if yer man says he wants the paternity test and she hasn't as much as looked at another bloke.

Typical emotional blackmail. It should be mandatory to DNA test both people involved to avoid these scenarios. Typical boards response though.

josip · 10-01-2019 7:32pm

The french have one of the worst reputations for extra marital infidelity.
So much so that they banned DNA testing for fear of the impact on society.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/french-men-s-insecurity-over-paternity-of-offspring-creating-a-society-of-doubt-1.773569

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 10-01-2019 7:35pm

Is it unusual to be diagnosed with cystic fibrosis so late?

Glad she didn’t get away with it anyway. But what an awful shock for him. Cystic fibrosis AND the realisation that his children weren’t his. That is just tough all round. Are men with cystic fibrosis always infertile? I’m sure it’s been proven that he is anyway.

99nsr125 · 10-01-2019 7:36pm

gctest50 wrote: »

It goes on a fair bit

Up to 1 in 6 Canadians are victims of paternity fraud

1 in 4 in the UK

Gimme A Pound · 10-01-2019 7:37pm

What a ****.

hatrickpatrick · 10-01-2019 7:37pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

If they want that there is nothing stopping them paying for it privately.

Except that this puts every man in a "remain ignorant or get dumped" quandry. No win situation.

Also, why only father and son?

Projection on my part, apologies. When I typed up my two posts here I was just thinking how utterly devastated I'd be if I found out that I wasn't related to my dad and that his family's long history in Ireland (we have a lot of revolutionaries among our ancestors) was therefore irrelevant to me - that that blood didn't actually run through my veins. Didn't mean to be exclusionary at all, was just thinking about myself.

I don't believe that anything close to a majority of people would betray someone like this, but I do believe that a large enough proportion of human beings are selfish assholes that people should be protected from having their lives destroyed so fundamentally on the off chance that someone in their life happens to be one. Robbing someone of their blood identity is evil beyond belief.

For the record, I also advocate that adopted children should be told that they're adopted from the youngest age that they can understand what it means, to avoid traumatic heartbreak later in life after being misled throughout childhood.

Genetic identity is simply something I do not believe should be left at the mercy of chance or the hope that someone isn't a scumbag. There are enough scumbags in the world that blind faith shouldn't be good enough when it comes to this. Maybe it isn't as important to others as it is to me, but I can't put into words how soul-destroying it would be for me to be told that my family aren't actually my genetic family, and I believe that however small a percentage of people this happens to, it's so awful and soul destroying that it's worth protecting everyone from even the remote possibility of this happening to them. Remove chance from the equation altogether and certify peoples' genetic identity as a matter of scientific fact rather than blind faith.

givyjoe · 10-01-2019 7:40pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

If they want that there is nothing stopping them paying for it privately. Also, why only father and son?

Consent from all parties is required for these tests no? Clinics will not do the tests or give results unless both consent to the test.

Open to correction but someone close to me had to go through the above to have something similar confirmed.

givyjoe · 10-01-2019 7:43pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't know, I don't think even "feminist nuts" think it's ok to do this. Probably they are more thinking of the impact on the kids of having the person they grew up thinking was their father suddenly disappear. Surely trying to maintain some kind of relationship is best for everyone. No doubt the "father" will also love the children like his own.

In this case I think the kids had already cut contact with him due to his behaviour.

One of the kids at least, had not. Read the story elsewhere. One of the kids said "if you sue mum, I'll cut contact with you". Pretty fcuked up response seen as she took the guy to the cleaners in the divorce.

lertsnim · 10-01-2019 7:45pm

She is a dirty whore.

seamus · 10-01-2019 7:45pm

99nsr125 wrote: »

1 in 4 in the UK

gctest50 wrote: »

It goes on a fair bit

Up to 1 in 6 Canadians are victims of paternity fraud

Neither of these figures are correct. This is the rate of paternity fraud where the father already suspects the children are not his.

Across the entire population, the most recent UK study puts it at 1 in 50.

A more recent study of suspicious men increased this 1 in 4 to 1 in 2.

Which is good news; If you think your kids are not yours and you're so suspicious that you go as far as getting a DNA test, then there's only a 50% chance that you're right.

Dad finds out that none of his kids are biologically his.

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