Signs of psychopathy, sneakiness and general evil traits?

EmmetSpiceland · 29-04-2021 3:47pm

Leg End Reject wrote: »

I don't think anyone was offended, E, just surprised. It's quite a turnabout for you.

Anyway, let's move on before we start to look like psychopaths ourselves. That wouldn't do at all.

I’m a little lost but am in, total, agreement with moving on and turning the “focus” back on the real psychopaths.

freshpopcorn · 29-04-2021 3:57pm

I’m always very dodgy of people who’d say they’d be happy living beside a halting site.

Leg End Reject · 29-04-2021 4:06pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I’m always very dodgy of people who’d say they’d be happy living beside a halting site.

They're saying that from a position of knowing they'll never have to.

Very easy to virtue signal when you can talk the talk without having to walk to walk.

Hector Savage · 29-04-2021 5:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Insisting on being identified by preferred pronouns.

...and then calling the police for "hate speech" if you don't .... these would be the people calling the stasi police back in the day

Hector Savage · 29-04-2021 5:58pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

Anyone who makes fun of people in front of other people. I hate anyone I have ever seen do that. Them kind of people are best avoided.

Knew some people like that, one guy was really academic and did really well in school and college, but was a complete immature tosser - used to laugh at people in wheelchair types.

Dad was one of the best teachers in a leaving cert subject in the country and all his kids did really well, but this guy a total dickhead, last I heard he was in the US as a VP in some American bank.

Necro · 29-04-2021 7:05pm

Can we have less of the commenting on other posters and more discussion of the topic folks, cheers

Jequ0n · 29-04-2021 8:32pm

The few people who answered seriously... what are you basing your assessments/ guesses on if I may ask?
Serious question with no attack intended, just curious

RikkFlair · 30-04-2021 10:22am

I'd say one athlete mocking anothers failed suicide attempt would be about as scummy and evil as one could go. What a scumbag.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/in-your-area/lanarkshire/albion-rovers-david-cox-retires-24010329

30-04-2021 10:26am

Dunno if it’s been done, although it’s a generalisation, and it must be, most crypto fans offline and offline give a huge whiff of selfishness and I’d say there’s a tendency to sociopathy.

EddieN75 · 30-04-2021 10:30am

Bertie Ahern stood up on a podium and said into a microphone that if people weren't happy or were negative in the economy that they should kill themselves.

That's not normal.

He shouldn't have walked out of there that night but that's a different story.

pgj2015 · 30-04-2021 10:56am

EddieN75 wrote: »

Bertie Ahern stood up on a podium and said into a microphone that if people weren't happy or were negative in the economy that they should kill themselves.

That's not normal.

He shouldn't have walked out of there that night but that's a different story.

Id say that was more a case of not thinking before he spoke. Like the politician who said her team were "working like blacks"

jmayo · 30-04-2021 11:13am

Sheeps wrote: »

Voting for Fine Gael is a giant red flag.

Jaysus I would hate to see the description then for sinn fein voters.

RikkFlair wrote: »

I'd say one athlete mocking anothers failed suicide attempt would be about as scummy and evil as one could go. What a scumbag.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/in-your-area/lanarkshire/albion-rovers-david-cox-retires-24010329

Celtice fans used to chant "Two Andy Gorams, There’s only two Andy Gorams” after he revealed he was mildly schizophrenic.
He played for the old enemy Glasgow rangers.

As someone as said the real psychopaths will appear outwardly to be perfectly normal.
And there are a hell of a lot of people who could fall into that category given the opportunity.

Just look what happened in WWII where perfectly supposed well adjusted high achieving individuals degenerated into utter savages with behaviours that some of the worse psychopathic serial killers could only dream of in their imaginations.

And the likes of Yugoslavia, Rwanda just proved nothing has changed.

Hector Savage · 30-04-2021 3:33pm

jmayo wrote: »

Jaysus I would hate to see the description then for sinn fein voters.

Celtice fans used to chant "Two Andy Gorams, There’s only two Andy Gorams” after he revealed he was mildly schizophrenic.
He played for the old enemy Glasgow rangers.

As someone as said the real psychopaths will appear outwardly to be perfectly normal.
And there are a hell of a lot of people who could fall into that category given the opportunity.

Just look what happened in WWII where perfectly supposed well adjusted high achieving individuals degenerated into utter savages with behaviours that some of the worse psychopathic serial killers could only dream of in their imaginations.

And the likes of Yugoslavia, Rwanda just proved nothing has changed.

It's the dehumanization of the enemy that made it easier for them to do ...

tara73 · 30-04-2021 4:21pm

I think the question asked in the thread title is mixing very different traits. There's a world between a psychopath, being sneaky (every person in the world is sneaky possibly every day), and evil traits, many people have evil traits but are no psychopaths..

Brussels Sprout · 30-04-2021 4:29pm

Years ago I worked with a guy who had previously worked in a slaughter house. He once confided in me that his favourite role in that job was killing the cattle with the bolt gun. He said he enjoyed the sense of power that it gave him. I gave him a wide berth after that.

_Whimsical_ · 30-04-2021 4:39pm

They're all around us.

It's that person at work who will see laughing and sniggering at another coworker as a legitimate opportunity for bonding with someone else.

The person who'll lie about you and to your face to justify their own bad behaviour and make themselves look good - because it's never their fault.

We all know several of them!
Not all psychopaths end up in jail or rising to prominence. Lots just quietly make our lives miserable and do not care.

Jequ0n · 30-04-2021 4:44pm

tara73 wrote: »

I think the question asked in the thread title is mixing very different traits. There's a world between a psychopath, being sneaky (every person in the world is sneaky possibly every day), and evil traits, many people have evil traits but are no psychopaths..

Totally agree. Just meant to add that not every psychopath is evil. It’s a misconception (understandably) based on famous cases gaining notoriety. You’ll never hear about the ones that stay out of sight and just get on with their lives

BingCrosbee · 30-04-2021 4:55pm

Sheeps wrote: »

Voting for Fine Gael is a giant red flag.

That’s me fuke’ed so

MitchBuch · 30-04-2021 9:46pm

I think humans are pretty bad for the most part, if you are a normal person who fits into their requirements then they are great but when you are someone like me who has social problems, anxiety and an unsociable personality people soon show their true colours and bully you. They bully you to try and get you to reform to their ideal idea of what a human should be even though the person may not be able to change.

fryup · 30-04-2021 10:41pm

is Noel Clarke a psychopath?

pgj2015 · 30-04-2021 11:14pm

MitchBuch wrote: »

I think humans are pretty bad for the most part, if you are a normal person who fits into their requirements then they are great but when you are someone like me who has social problems, anxiety and an unsociable personality people soon show their true colours and bully you. They bully you to try and get you to reform to their ideal idea of what a human should be even though the person may not be able to change.

I don't think the majority of people are bad, most people are decent people who get on with their life, not spending their time upsetting others or making life hard for them.

Leg End Reject · 30-04-2021 11:18pm

fryup wrote: »

is George Clarke a psychopath?

Noel Clarke in the article. Still just allegations, but there's a lot of them all the same.

Mad_maxx · 01-05-2021 8:52am

MitchBuch wrote: »

I think humans are pretty bad for the most part, if you are a normal person who fits into their requirements then they are great but when you are someone like me who has social problems, anxiety and an unsociable personality people soon show their true colours and bully you. They bully you to try and get you to reform to their ideal idea of what a human should be even though the person may not be able to change.

if you are not hurting anyone , its your own business what your personality is , ignore those types as best you can

id describe myself as a sociable loner in that i can easily chat to people but im often much more content being by myself , crowds dont bother me but i dont need to be in a group of six knocking back pints either , did that throughout my late teens and twenties and then lost interest in it

Mad_maxx · 01-05-2021 8:54am

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Noel Clarke in the article. Still just allegations, but there's a lot of them all the same.

he played such a scumbag in that movie " Kidulthood " , i sort of suspected he was a " wrong un "

01-05-2021 6:36pm

I was walking down the main street today and some bloke approached me, hand in his tracksuit pants, and suddenly he started, not even shouting, bawling

He fixed on me and he said "Dhmnnnghhhh Hammngger?"

I briefly looked behind me.
I said: "What?"

He went on, making a noise as if sucking on a golf-ball, he repeated: Dhmnnnghhhh Hammngger"

(This time I deduced "THERE'S HAMMER")

I said:

"I am not "Hammer" what are you talking about?"

Then he started acting somewhat violent. Perhaps I was too emphatic that I am not "Hammer" (but I'm not), I don't see why I shouldn't insist.

Anyway, his girlfriend held him back, she was all "He's no' worf it" (she was english, but I didn't say anything), and he sort of, backed off, then. By now he understood that I was not his "Hammer" acquaintance, but he still left me with an Anglo-Saxon goodbye and a threat, describing what he might do next time! Nenagh is gone very dangerous.

I walked back to my car and thought of this thread. I don't believe in malicious people at all, but maybe the Lord is testing me. I wonder if some people are just inherently angry, or did I just catch him on a bad day.

EmmetSpiceland · 01-05-2021 6:49pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I walked back to my car and thought of this thread. I don't believe in malicious people at all, but maybe the Lord is testing me. I wonder if some people are just inherently angry, or did I just catch him on a bad day.

There’s a lot of anger out there, ATNM. The lockdown “restrictions”, while easing, have hit a certain cohort of the population harder than others. All we can do is convey understanding, and sympathy.

As has been said before, we’re all “weathering” the same storm but some of us are in different boats. Hopefully they’ll start to see the light coming at the end of this dark tunnel and that might cause their anger to subside.

Would be nice if that happened to the, angry, online cohort but I’ve a feeling they’ll just move onto another “target” instead.

01-05-2021 7:05pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

There’s a lot of anger out there, ATNM. The lockdown “restrictions”, while easing, have hit a certain cohort of the population harder than others. All we can do is convey understanding, and sympathy.

As has been said before, we’re all “weathering” the same storm but some of us are in different boats. Hopefully they’ll start to see the light coming at the end of this dark tunnel and that might cause their anger to subside.

I think that's a great attitude Emmet. Everyone is fighting their own battles, God knows what is going on in the lives of people who seem to be constantly simmering below boiling-point — and that goes for people online, too. It is somewhat perturbing to encounter, mind you.

The sooner this lockdown ends, when we all get busy again, the better for everyone.

Rustyman101 · 01-05-2021 7:14pm

had a boss in a large MNC, classic signs, ruthless, no empthy, took great pleasure watching people squirm, dreaded the weekly meeting with her, she would go round the table and keep chipping away until you broke ! remember go into a colleague after one of the meetings, she was in a back room crying. what a ****, shes done very well for herself last i heard, i bailed out.

chooseusername · 01-05-2021 7:33pm

Big companies love that type,
use them as hatchet men , eventually they slip up and are moved out.
On to the next.

Danzy · 01-05-2021 8:00pm

VertBlue wrote: »

Male feminists are psychopaths? Evil??

They tend to often be creepy predator types.

Jequ0n · 02-05-2021 6:56am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I was walking down the main street today and some bloke approached me, hand in his tracksuit pants, and suddenly he started, not even shouting, bawling

He fixed on me and he said "Dhmnnnghhhh Hammngger?"

I briefly looked behind me.
I said: "What?"

He went on, making a noise as if sucking on a golf-ball, he repeated: Dhmnnnghhhh Hammngger"

(This time I deduced "THERE'S HAMMER")

I said:

"I am not "Hammer" what are you talking about?"

Then he started acting somewhat violent. Perhaps I was too emphatic that I am not "Hammer" (but I'm not), I don't see why I shouldn't insist.

Anyway, his girlfriend held him back, she was all "He's no' worf it" (she was english, but I didn't say anything), and he sort of, backed off, then. By now he understood that I was not his "Hammer" acquaintance, but he still left me with an Anglo-Saxon goodbye and a threat, describing what he might do next time! Nenagh is gone very dangerous.

I walked back to my car and thought of this thread. I don't believe in malicious people at all, but maybe the Lord is testing me. I wonder if some people are just inherently angry, or did I just catch him on a bad day.

Are you sure you aren’t Hammer?

You do protest a lot here..

ILoveYourVibes · 02-05-2021 7:43am

Mango Joe wrote: »

What tell-tale signs do you look for as signs of psychopathy, sneakiness and general festering evil type traits in people?

They hang around with dishonest shady and crazy people. have friends who have a criminal past or have one themselves.

They are always in strange situations ..like they have a car accident once a year.
They are always ducking and diving trouble.

They lead erratic lifestyles.

Addictions.

Past behaviors.

They cheat in ordinary life. Or have a history of such.

They just seem to not care about social niceties etc. As in they are selfish visibly.

Basically people who are dishonest live a dishonest lifestyle.

They seem sharp like a fox but not intellectual.

The type of person you would say ..hmm they are cunning rather than intelligent. You get me?

You get the feeling they could out smart you but they are not smarter than you.

If you feel someone is highly intellectual intelligent but couldn't out smart you ....they usually don't have much cunning and are honest.

There are people in this world for whom you get the feeling that you know they are not that intellectual and not that intelligent for whom intellectual pursuits would be boring ...but you know they are still sharper than you and could run rings around you.

That is a sneaky deceptive person.

Someone you just look at and go ..BENT.

ILoveYourVibes · 02-05-2021 7:49am

Rustyman101 wrote: »

had a boss in a large MNC, classic signs, ruthless, no empthy, took great pleasure watching people squirm, dreaded the weekly meeting with her, she would go round the table and keep chipping away until you broke ! remember go into a colleague after one of the meetings, she was in a back room crying. what a ****, shes done very well for herself last i heard, i bailed out.

But was she honest?

Hangdogroad · 02-05-2021 9:22am

Jequ0n wrote: »

Are you sure you aren’t Hammer?

You do protest a lot here..

Cant touch this.

roofer1988 · 02-05-2021 9:50am

bb1234567 wrote: »

People who can't take even a minor joke thrown at them. Any piss taken out of them met with indignance, defensiveness or outright anger, no matter how harmless the joke. Very odd and really rubs me the wrong way, sure sign of awful narcissism.

Usually these people say awful things about people but like you say cant take it

Jequ0n · 02-05-2021 6:42pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They seem sharp like a fox but not intellectual.

The type of person you would say ..hmm they are cunning rather than intelligent. You get me?

You get the feeling they could out smart you but they are not smarter than you.

If you feel someone is highly intellectual intelligent but couldn't out smart you ....they usually don't have much cunning and are honest.

There are people in this world for whom you get the feeling that you know they are not that intellectual and not that intelligent for whom intellectual pursuits would be boring ...but you know they are still sharper than you and could run rings around you.

That is a sneaky deceptive person.

Someone you just look at and go ..BENT.

Junkyard Tom · 03-05-2021 2:37am

OscarMIlde wrote: »

Taking the minus offer in the Chase for me. And every time I've seen it done it's been a (thick as mince) woman.

It's often the optimal decision.

shtpEdthePlum · 03-05-2021 3:08am

People who make everything about themselves. Almost as though they have no empathy for how anybody else experiences the world.

Or protecting their folly onto you. Saying things like "Are you jealous?", or intentionally trying to make you jealous with petty things that would make them envious.

They blame others for all their problems, even things they are entirely responsible for. They disown and abandon anyone who shows the first signs of weakness or vulnerability. Anything that makes us human is vile to them and the shallow, superficial and tacky is irresistible.

Those sorts of people are dangerous. Best kept at arms length, and told as little about your personal victories as possible lest they intentionally set out to subvert you.

They are dangerous and they are everywhere.

Jequ0n · 03-05-2021 10:15am

Ironically I have actually noticed that the trend to diagnose everyone and everything as a narcissist, psychopath etc often correlates with people who are loathe to take responsibility for their own actions and decisions.

It's easier to blame someone than to rethink your own part in a situation.
Oh you shouldn't have trusted those strangers at the door who said they'd fix your roof for a tenner? Can't have been your fault, they must be psychopaths.

Someone in work criticises you and you're bawling uncontrollably? Clearly they are a raging narcissist and you cannot possibly have a problem with controlling your emotions.

Self-fulfilling prophecy for a lot of people

PARlance · 03-05-2021 12:02pm

Mango Joe wrote: »

What tell-tale signs do you look for as signs of psychopathy, sneakiness and general festering evil type traits in people?

Personally if you have turned off read receipts in WhatsApp then I won't ever trust you and I do not like the way you're living your life.......

I don't know why anyone would have read receipts turned on for WhatsApp. Turning them off also disables other people from seeing if you're online or not, or what time you were last online. That's way too much information for me to be giving up.

When you start getting calls at 6:15am from your boss because they "saw you were online", you'll turn it off fairly quick.

Winter Potatoe · 03-05-2021 2:31pm

Sheeps wrote: »

Voting for Fine Gael is a giant red flag.

Anyone who points out who not to vote for without being willing to say who it is that they do approve of... that is a red flag to me! Not saying it makes you a psychopath though. It's just your comment would probably have gotten the same amount of likes if you had named any other political party.

Jequ0n · 04-05-2021 8:34am

PARlance wrote: »

When you start getting calls at 6:15am from your boss because they "saw you were online", you'll turn it off fairly quick.

Then WhatsApp isn’t your problem but your inability to establish boundaries

Capt'n Midnight · 04-05-2021 12:05pm

fvp4 wrote: »

Dunno if it’s been done, although it’s a generalisation, and it must be, most crypto fans offline and offline give a huge whiff of selfishness and I’d say there’s a tendency to sociopathy.

Bitcoin analysis (stolen from Twitter)

"Imagine a child's concept of an evil businessman. He plugs in his pollution machine to make money. It doesn't do anything for anybody, just pollutes and then he gets money for it."

mohawk · 04-05-2021 1:17pm

Jequ0n wrote: »

Ironically I have actually noticed that the trend to diagnose everyone and everything as a narcissist, psychopath etc often correlates with people who are loathe to take responsibility for their own actions and decisions.

It's easier to blame someone than to rethink your own part in a situation.
Oh you shouldn't have trusted those strangers at the door who said they'd fix your roof for a tenner? Can't have been your fault, they must be psychopaths.

Someone in work criticises you and you're bawling uncontrollably? Clearly they are a raging narcissist and you cannot possibly have a problem with controlling your emotions.

Self-fulfilling prophecy for a lot of people

I don’t know I think you’re being a tad harsh. If a person had one bad boss in their life and their coworkers had similar problems with the boss then it’s probably the boss at fault.
Now if a person has all terrible bosses making them cry then yes that’s on that person.
I would be very weary of people who are living a life of constant drama and according to them it’s everyone’s fault but theirs.

Now onto a previous boss I had who I thought there was something seriously off about them. When they smiled at you their eyes were blank. A genuine smile can be seen in the eyes. It took me ages to figure out what it was about this boss that bothered me. One night I was out drinking with colleagues and one of them mentioned how it freaked them out and then it clicked with me that the same thing was bothering me. Definitely an evil trait.

Wanderer78 · 04-05-2021 1:23pm

Jequ0n wrote:

Then WhatsApp isnâ€™t your problem but your inability to establish boundaries

True, but I'd class turning off WhatsApp as a boundary

04-05-2021 1:58pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Bitcoin analysis (stolen from Twitter)

"Imagine a child's concept of an evil businessman. He plugs in his pollution machine to make money. It doesn't do anything for anybody, just pollutes and then he gets money for it."

There’s a lot of ordinary Joe’s hoping they are going to get rich off internet magic beans. It’s the top of the ponzi where an unprecedented amount of sociopaths, criminals, and scumbags have gathered.

McAfee, Justin Sun, those Tether scam guys, the Winklevii twins etc. Unlike traditional shadow finance, you actually get to see what is happening in real time, and get to see what they are doing via their tweets. Fascinating stuff tbh.

Jequ0n · 04-05-2021 2:11pm

mohawk wrote: »

I don’t know I think you’re being a tad harsh. If a person had one bad boss in their life and their coworkers had similar problems with the boss then it’s probably the boss at fault.
Now if a person has all terrible bosses making them cry then yes that’s on that person.
I would be very weary of people who are living a life of constant drama and according to them it’s everyone’s fault but theirs.

Now onto a previous boss I had who I thought there was something seriously off about them. When they smiled at you their eyes were blank. A genuine smile can be seen in the eyes. It took me ages to figure out what it was about this boss that bothered me. One night I was out drinking with colleagues and one of them mentioned how it freaked them out and then it clicked with me that the same thing was bothering me. Definitely an evil trait.

Yes I meant the eternal victims who can’t face admitting to themselves that they are naive idiots.
You’ll find a lot of diagnoses uttered by this breed because it’s easier I blame your misfortune on an enemy figure than reflecting on your own actions

Wanderer78 · 04-05-2021 3:10pm

Jequ0n wrote: »

Yes I meant the eternal victims who can’t face admitting to themselves that they are naive idiots.
You’ll find a lot of diagnoses uttered by this breed because it’s easier I blame your misfortune on an enemy figure than reflecting on your own actions

would you class anxiety as experienced by many in society, including the elderly, as naivety?

Jequ0n · 04-05-2021 3:49pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

would you class anxiety as experienced by many in society, including the elderly, as naivety?

No. Maybe the contrary.
It’s more the “blind faith” that let’s you walk into a trap.
The conviction that you know others well enough to trust them, just to be absolutely shattered when you realise that you had been wrong.
How often does a total conviction get replaced by another absolute?

“My husband would never do anything like that” suddenly turns into “he is a narcissist, how else could he do this to me?” Etc etc etc

Easier to have been duped by a “monster” than admit that you didn’t notice or chose to ignore the warning signs

Wanderer78 · 04-05-2021 4:58pm

Jequ0n wrote: »

No. Maybe the contrary.
It’s more the “blind faith” that let’s you walk into a trap.
The conviction that you know others well enough to trust them, just to be absolutely shattered when you realise that you had been wrong.
How often does a total conviction get replaced by another absolute?

“My husband would never do anything like that” suddenly turns into “he is a narcissist, how else could he do this to me?” Etc etc etc

Easier to have been duped by a “monster” than admit that you didn’t notice or chose to ignore the warning signs

not all humans have this type of awareness, things also change, people to can change, from being honest and warm, to the complete opposite. the human mind is wired in a particular way that is governed by emotions, emotions are a part of the irrational mind, where logic is in short supply

Signs of psychopathy, sneakiness and general evil traits?

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