Dublin Coach Experience Discussion Thread

patrickc · 16-10-2018 11:44pm

abother setra with passengers broken down on the N7 today

dhaughton99 · 16-10-2018 11:48pm

patrickc wrote: »

abother setra with passengers broken down on the N7 today

I passed the depot at 10:30 tonight and there were none of the usual buses outside on the road apart from a small Kildare village one and two of the broken setras. The place is usually piled high outside every other night I pass. Unless they are all broke down on a motorway somewhere.

WishUWereHere · 17-10-2018 6:45am

dhaughton99 wrote: »

I passed the depot at 10:30 tonight and there were none of the usual buses outside on the road apart from a small Kildare village one and two of the broken setras. The place is usually piled high outside every other night I pass. Unless they are all broke down on a motorway somewhere.

Or maybe the Litter Warden has knocked on their door, and told them to clean up their act?

finnharpsboy · 27-10-2018 6:06pm

From Facebook this afternoon

Dravokivich · 27-10-2018 6:45pm

Wouldn't be too sure of how recent that is. Was down that way within the last 2 hours and didn't notice anything left over from that.

Still a few gutted buses hanging around too.

finnharpsboy · 27-10-2018 7:11pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

Wouldn't be too sure of how recent that is. Was down that way within the last 2 hours and didn't notice anything left over from that.

Still a few gutted buses hanging around too.

Just passed it now.... one coach (09 KE) completely gutted, another with the rear third of it burnt out.
Photographers and Garda there.

finnharpsboy · 27-10-2018 7:14pm

Dublin fire brigade on Twitter
http://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/1056244184087179265

punisher5112 · 27-10-2018 7:21pm

Wonder was it arson.

Odyssey 2005 · 27-10-2018 7:31pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Wonder was it arson.

Hmmm !;)

Odyssey 2005 · 27-10-2018 7:34pm

finnharpsboy wrote: »

From Facebook this afternoon

Same ball of shîťê that clogged up Doolin a few weeks ago. What a crock.

Dravokivich · 27-10-2018 7:36pm

finnharpsboy wrote: »

Just passed it now.... one coach (09 KE) completely gutted, another with the rear third of it burnt out.
Photographers and Garda there.

Must have been after I passed through so.

punisher5112 · 27-10-2018 7:38pm

Them double deck vanhools must be ragged???

I always thought they were a smashing coach.

Stephen15 · 27-10-2018 7:38pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Wonder was it arson.

Even if it was it would still go back to DC's incompetence as an operator for parking buses overnight on a public road. They should really be off the road. I don't how their insured.

punisher5112 · 27-10-2018 7:39pm

Dublin bus is selling their VT 1-20 wonder will Dublin coach buy them???

Stephen15 · 27-10-2018 7:42pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Dublin bus is selling their VT 1-20 wonder will Dublin coach buy them???

Nearly wouldn't surprise me if they fitted them with seat belts and used them for coach work. Absolute joke of an operator by the sounds of things.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 27-10-2018 7:51pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

Even if it was it would still go back to DC's incompetence as an operator for parking buses overnight on a public road. They should really be off the road. I don't how their insured.

What makes it more odd than usual is it happened at their depot, or a few yards from it.

tabbey · 27-10-2018 8:18pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Dublin bus is selling their VT 1-20 wonder will Dublin coach buy them???

Are these the first VTs registered late 2005?

punisher5112 · 27-10-2018 8:27pm

tabbey wrote: »

Are these the first VTs registered late 2005?

Yes. Yp for sale already, December pulled from service, it's a shame as they are such a good bus.

tabbey · 27-10-2018 8:30pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Yes. Yp for sale already, December pulled from service, it's a shame as they are such a good bus.

Yes they are a great bus, they feel much more solid than many newer designs.

They also carry lots of people who would be left behind by other vehicles.

Stephen15 · 27-10-2018 8:38pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Yes. Yp for sale already, December pulled from service, it's a shame as they are such a good bus.

Up on the market in the UK I believe

TallGlass · 27-10-2018 9:06pm

Looks like fire started in back of one of the buses and spread to the bus behind.

belfast stephen · 29-10-2018 12:11am

i hear that DC have there Belfast Route out to Tender or someone to take it of the hands are they are not making any money on it bar Friday and Sunday

belfast stephen · 29-10-2018 12:15am

i hear that DC have there Belfast Route out to Tender or someone to take it of the hands are they are not making any money on it bar Friday and Sunday

Stephen15 · 29-10-2018 1:06am

Roberto Square Hangman wrote: »

What makes it more odd than usual is it happened at their depot, or a few yards from it.

I assume that's because their depot is too small for their fleet which is a bit thick of them for not having a depot large enough.

devnull · 29-10-2018 7:00am

Very shortly they will be starting a new route between Dublin airport and Clongriffin with the number 727.

It's typical Dublin Coach. Continued expansion rather than dealing with long suffering passengers on existing routes.

Bar the Belfast and to a lesser extent the Limerick route. All other services are starved of any kind of investment.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 29-10-2018 9:10am

Stephen15 wrote: »

I assume that's because their depot is too small for their fleet which is a bit thick of them for not having a depot large enough.

I’ll rephrase.

It was strange it happened in knockmitten, arson is a high probability.

Stephen15 · 29-10-2018 11:10am

devnull wrote: »

Very shortly they will be starting a new route between Dublin airport and Clongriffin with the number 727.

It's typical Dublin Coach. Continued expansion rather than dealing with long suffering passengers on existing routes.

Bar the Belfast and to a lesser extent the Limerick route. All other services are starved of any kind of investment.

Sounds like a bit of a reincarnation of the old AerDart but from Clongriffin rather than Howth Junction. Surprised they'd bother since the AerDart was relatively short lived.

Truckermal · 29-10-2018 3:39pm

A bus driver sacked for sharing 'shock' pictures of a faulty wheel has won an unfair dismissal claim http://jrnl.ie/4306184

I wonder was he driving for them?

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 29-10-2018 3:44pm

Truckermal wrote: »

A bus driver sacked for sharing 'shock' pictures of a faulty wheel has won an unfair dismissal claim http://jrnl.ie/4306184

I wonder was he driving for them?

Still though, €990 isn't a massive amount of money, he was just lucky he found someone else to take him on.

As for getting the money itself, he'll more than likely have to go to court to get an enforcement order and then get the local sheriff to execute the said order.

I took an unfair dismissal cases myself in recent years.

From initiating the action to receiving payment, it was monthly payments over a very long time, took about 4 years and involved the process i described above.

Stephen15 · 30-10-2018 12:39am

Rumour going around another one has caught fire tonight.

Old diesel · 30-10-2018 12:18pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

Rumour going around another one has caught fire tonight.

How many incidents are needed for someone official to start looking into what's going on.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 30-10-2018 12:44pm

Old diesel wrote: »

How many incidents are needed for someone official to start looking into what's going on.

If you google the company you can see the RSA have already been investigating them and DC have been fined.

punisher5112 · 30-10-2018 2:17pm

Roberto Square Hangman wrote: »

If you google the company you can see the RSA have already been investigating them and DC have been fined.

Fines which would make you laugh.

They don't turn the setras off as they won't start again, smoke spewing out, lights faulty everywhere, bits hanging off or missing.

They are an absolute joke to be honest.

Should be a proper crack down on all psv ....

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 30-10-2018 4:27pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Fines which would make you laugh.

They don't turn the setras off as they won't start again, smoke spewing out, lights faulty everywhere, bits hanging off or missing.

They are an absolute joke to be honest.

Should be a proper crack down on all psv ....

We need the likes of VOSA to come in here and clean up the place properly.

TallGlass · 30-10-2018 8:15pm

How are they getting DOEs for some of the buses alone is a mystery. Theyd have to pass a visual, I guess and unless your blind most of the buses bodywork is shocking.

punisher5112 · 30-10-2018 8:29pm

TallGlass wrote: »

How are they getting DOEs for some of the buses alone is a mystery. Theyd have to pass a visual, I guess and unless your blind most of the buses bodywork is shocking.

Has to be in house.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 30-10-2018 8:46pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Has to be in house.

It is in-house

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 30-10-2018 8:58pm

Roberto Square Hangman wrote: »

It is in-house

Is that not against CVRT rules ?

And anyways, their not on the CVRT register for testing

https://www.cvrt.ie/en/About-CVRT/Pages/CVR-Test-Operator-Register-.aspx

XPS_Zero · 30-10-2018 9:00pm

Journal.ie did a bit on the bizzare price differences between Translink and Expressway the other week. Not QUITE understanding that while they are the same route they are different companies with different revenue systems that cover different %'s of the work on said route, use different currencies and vat rates etc....

...anyway. You can always get a good laugh (or migrane) reading the comments on that website, it's hilarious, or scary, depending on the day, how uninformed people are. One person suggested that BE was expensive because "someone has to pay for all the free houses"...what BE's fares had to do with non existent free houses I'm not sure....but that wasn't the one that amused me, it just confused me.

It was second or so most popular comment, and it suggested that the other companies are well worth looking into, and it mentioned DC only charging a tenner...and I thought ....if only you guys knew that you're taking your life into your hands for that discount!:D

TallGlass · 30-10-2018 9:00pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Has to be in house.

No problem with this at all. However, do the RSA not pull some buses from in-house place and do an audit on how good they are conducting the test or is a case till a bus crashes and kills a few people? Funny thing is, it won't be the company in that case, it be the poor fella that signed it off that will get sued to the hilt and the company will deny anything.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 30-10-2018 9:05pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Is that not against CVRT rules ?

And anyways, their not on the CVRT register for testing

https://www.cvrt.ie/en/About-CVRT/Pages/CVR-Test-Operator-Register-.aspx

I only recently learned it isn't, since i moved to Cork anyways.

If you look up Dermot Cronin motors & Cronins Coaches in Cork they are one and the same company doing their own CVRT's as well as other vehicles.

Gael23 · 30-10-2018 10:33pm

The M9 service is terrible. Never on time and always really old buses.

Old diesel · 30-10-2018 11:42pm

Roberto Square Hangman wrote: »

If you google the company you can see the RSA have already been investigating them and DC have been fined.

I meant the fires as a specific issue

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 30-10-2018 11:46pm

Old diesel wrote: »

I meant the fires as a specific issue

I’d have expected the more modern stuff to have fire suppression equipment installed. One would need to ask themselves is some of it arson.

TallGlass · 31-10-2018 12:34am

Roberto Square Hangman wrote: »

I’d have expected the more modern stuff to have fire suppression equipment installed. One would need to ask themselves is some of it arson.

It's pretty much 50/50 to me. The buses are so bad it wouldn't surprise me if it just burst into flames in the engine.

Its just odd to me that the engine compartment is badly damaged and the front of the other bus just went up.

Sure there was a car park in the UK that went up cause of one car going on fire.

But just as easily be arson I suppose.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 31-10-2018 9:12am

TallGlass wrote: »

It's pretty much 50/50 to me. The buses are so bad it wouldn't surprise me if it just burst into flames in the engine.

Its just odd to me that the engine compartment is badly damaged and the front of the other bus just went up.

Sure there was a car park in the UK that went up cause of one car going on fire.

But just as easily be arson I suppose.

From what I was told it was the astromega that went up first taking the Setra with it, unless it was electrical at front I don’t know really.

I remember that car park you are on about. There was some nice stuff lost in that I think.

Truckermal · 05-11-2018 8:09pm

One of them broke down in Naas either Friday or Saturday!

patrickc · 05-11-2018 11:15pm

I heard one had to stop and passengers transfer to another over the weekend on the m50, why because a wheel was about to fall off due to loose wheel nuts!

XPS_Zero · 06-11-2018 12:35am

From the passengers point of view, what is the point having a dirt cheap service if there is a good chance it's a shoddy worked to death bus that might sputter out and stop...thus not getting you the advertised fast journey time..and you have to wait around for a transfer?

Also TBH I've never had a problem paying higher fares (within reason, and I take the same attitude to airlines, in the US the pilots pay is shocking) to get better wages. I want the guy driving me careering down the road at 70-80km/ph to be well fed and satisfied, not worrying about his finances.

bk · 06-11-2018 11:20am

XPS_Zero wrote: »

From the passengers point of view, what is the point having a dirt cheap service if there is a good chance it's a shoddy worked to death bus that might sputter out and stop...thus not getting you the advertised fast journey time..and you have to wait around for a transfer?

The strange thing is, they aren't any cheaper then Aircoach/GoBus/Citylink/etc. on their equivalent routes, yet Aircoach/GoBus/Citylink/etc. seem to be able to operate excellent services, with good quality vehicles, excellent maintenance and high reliability for the same ticket prices.

So I don't think it is really about being "dirt cheap", I'd say it is more of a case of DC having a monopoly and squeezing every cent of profit out of it that they can by running old, badly maintained, second hand coaches.

You can see that they operate a much better service to Belfast, where they face lots of competition.

I've always said, monopolies are bad, public or private.

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