* Motors chat - round 12 *

punisher5112 · 25-03-2018 9:37pm

Topaz is soon to be in the past circle k popping up in a topaz near you.

Funny how before the more expensive petrol and Diesel they claimed an extra 24km but then that campaign disappeared to bring in up to 3% with the more expensive and extra additives yada yada.....

wotzgoingon · 25-03-2018 9:38pm

Dartz wrote: »

I paid 1.43 for the expensive stuff in Cork. Regular was 1.38

Normal petrol gets m,e 150km to the first quarter tank. Expensive stuff got me 180km. That was cruising accross the N25 mind, fully loaded at around 180k

Expensive petrol actually works out better for some reason.

What's this expensive petrol you speak of? Premium or just more expensive petrol in a decent garage?

punisher5112 · 25-03-2018 9:40pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

What's this expensive petrol you speak of? Premium or just more expensive petrol in a decent garage?

The premium been sold in topaz or now circle k

wotzgoingon · 25-03-2018 9:42pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

The premium been sold in topaz or now circle k

Oh right. Us hill billys out west don't know much about that. :cool:

punisher5112 · 25-03-2018 9:44pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Oh right. Us hill billys out west don't know much about that. :cool:

Is see as they only rolled it out to a certain number of stations I'm sure to see if it sells, I highly doubtful it will be a big seller.

Dartz · 25-03-2018 9:49pm

Don't know about most cars, but the RX guzzles so much anyway there's actually a legitimate benefit to buying the more expensive fuel. On a c/km basis it goes further by a small amount - which makes a nice difference when you turn half a tank into global warming on one drive.

Can't speak about the power.

Foxhole Norman · 26-03-2018 12:19am

Big Nasty wrote: »

Fook, that's bad luck dude.

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Feck sake, that's rough! What do you reckon did it? Pure bad luck? Or did the cold spell a few weeks back damage it?

That being said, better to happen at home than on a big road trip! And you've got the stretch in the evenings to work on it! I remember replacing my rad the morning of my NCT test... got it in, passed the NCT and a coolant hose blew later that day lol!

captainspeed wrote: »

Sorry to hear about that, you're well overdue a dose of trouble free motoring now! At least it's happened before you left!

Hasn't been ideal now to be fair

I don't know what caused it to go really, it's not even close to being old or used, maybe under too much pressure but not sure really, it's an odd one!

fancy pigeon · 26-03-2018 8:42am

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Hasn't been ideal now to be fair I don't know what caused it to go really, it's not even close to being old or used, maybe under too much pressure but not sure really, it's an odd one!

Rough going...

But on the plus side, they are handy to change (albeit a bit fiddly negotiating it around the trans cooler pipework) so you won't be without the car for more than an hour :cool:

26-03-2018 9:44am

captainspeed wrote: »

If it could be sent up to Dublin that would be great, 135.9 in Maxol Ballinteer at the moment and that's probably the cheapest around these parts!

The 24 hour place a few hundred yards from Sarsfield Motors is about 1.29/litre for petrol at the moment iirc.

Foxhole Norman · 26-03-2018 10:25am

fancy pigeon wrote: »

Rough going...

But on the plus side, they are handy to change (albeit a bit fiddly negotiating it around the trans cooler pipework) so you won't be without the car for more than an hour :cool:

Yeah they're a handy job, did the last one myself but won't have time to this time around so will have to go to my mechanic I'd say!

vintagevrs · 27-03-2018 12:07pm

I fitted an auxiliary in cable this morning. The car has Bluetooth phone (doesn't do a2dp) so this will do for Spotify/podcasts.

I then remembered seeing nbt I drive from the newer f series cars fitted to an e39. So I checked if it can or has been done to an e46.

Turns out it can....

Meant to work really well and integrates with a lot of the cars functions.

Only problem is....it costs more than the car!

Aux in it is then

Cantona's Collars · 27-03-2018 1:06pm

I wonder if they are going to the NCT centre?

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7393981/53b5259d/wok_melding_onzin.html

Ubbquittious · 27-03-2018 1:11pm

Anyone know the normal operating temperature of a 1.8 petrol 406? It doesn't seem to be going much past 70 degrees unless I leave it sitting there idling which seems a bit low. Thermostat stuck?

27-03-2018 1:23pm

Ubbquittious wrote: »

........ Thermostat stuck?

Just under 90 degs is the normal operating temp of most cars. If your stat is stuck open the temp gauge will fly down when on the move and move promptly higher when stopped and the air isn't flowing at the rad.

Duff · 27-03-2018 2:44pm

Anyone using Carly for their BMW? I've recently purchased an lci e60 520d M sport and have seen a few places online suggesting its a worthwhile investment if you plan on upgrading lighting (to LED bulbs etc) and clearing fault codes. Would you recommend?

Foxhole Norman · 27-03-2018 3:02pm

Duff wrote: »

Anyone using Carly for their BMW? I've recently purchased an lci e60 520d M sport and have seen a few places online suggesting its a worthwhile investment if you plan on upgrading lighting (to LED bulbs etc) and clearing fault codes. Would you recommend?

Yeah I have Carly and find it fantastic, has worked well on all my E39's and a few friends BMW's.

Duff · 27-03-2018 4:12pm

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Yeah I have Carly and find it fantastic, has worked well on all my E39's and a few friends BMW's.

Cheers. Yeah, it seems like a handy bit of kit. Does it clear all fault codes etc?

Leonard Hofstadter · 27-03-2018 10:14pm

How do you get Carly FN? Is it cheap? What about PASoft? I believe it's possible to get a free download of it but I'm not sure how legal it is let alone how it's done and then I've heard it uses windows XP which of course is pre historic....

Foxhole Norman · 27-03-2018 10:37pm

captainspeed wrote: »

How do you get Carly FN? Is it cheap? What about PASoft? I believe it's possible to get a free download of it but I'm not sure how legal it is let alone how it's done and then I've heard it uses windows XP which of course is pre historic....

You can get it on the Android/Apple store, think it's something like €40 for the full version and I got a standard cable from them, think that was another €35 or so. It's a dead handy mobile app that can do most diagnostics and some coding, well worth having.

James Bond Junior · 27-03-2018 10:41pm

Spent the past few days away with Ms. Moneypenny on the wild atlantic way. Did Connemara down into the burren and west clare in her 1 series, they really are a cracking car and that 8 speed ZF box is just sublime. Drove in excess of 600km in 2 days and I wasn't one bit tired nor uncomfortable. I had a golf years ago which used to leave my back in ribbons after an hour or two driving which is a testament to the comfort of the 1er considering they are in the same class. Highly tempted to keep it when she decides to trade up.

The wild atlantic way really was a fantastic idea, so simple and cost shag all to implement as it was always there. It really is a revelation and as a driver, it is a great thing to experience. Added to that I must also say I was very impressed with the overall road condition. We drove out to Clifden and the road was so smooth for 99% of the way. The same with roads around West Clare too. This wild atlantic way, must have forced the councils to spend a bit of money on road upkeep and repair. Who needs the Healy Raes, considering the Ring of Kerry is dire in a lot of parts. We live in a fantastic country, we should really utilise what's on our doorsteps more. Has anyone done much of it?

Foxhole Norman · 27-03-2018 10:45pm

Duff wrote: »

Cheers. Yeah, it seems like a handy bit of kit. Does it clear all fault codes etc?

Yep, can clear codes no problem and will give you fairly detailed idea of what the code is. Reads loads of modules, think 30+ depending on the car!

stdidit · 27-03-2018 11:12pm

Anyone know if there is a website that shows how much tax you pay, by car model?

Looking for an automatic car, probably 2008 - 2011 DOP, fairly open on model but want something low in tax. Willing to sacrifice power if needed as my other half will be learning to drive with it.

Noccy_Mondy · 27-03-2018 11:21pm

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Spent the past few days away with Ms. Moneypenny on the wild atlantic way. Did Connemara down into the burren and west clare in her 1 series, they really are a cracking car and that 8 speed ZF box is just sublime. Drove in excess of 600km in 2 days and I wasn't one bit tired nor uncomfortable. I had a golf years ago which used to leave my back in ribbons after an hour or two driving which is a testament to the comfort of the 1er considering they are in the same class. Highly tempted to keep it when she decides to trade up.

The wild atlantic way really was a fantastic idea, so simple and cost shag all to implement as it was always there. It really is a revelation and as a driver, it is a great thing to experience. Added to that I must also say I was very impressed with the overall road condition. We drove out to Clifden and the road was so smooth for 99% of the way. The same with roads around West Clare too. This wild atlantic way, must have forced the councils to spend a bit of money on road upkeep and repair. Who needs the Healy Raes, considering the Ring of Kerry is dire in a lot of parts. We live in a fantastic country, we should really utilise what's on our doorsteps more. Has anyone done much of it?

I done the wild atlantic way from Westport to Clifden numerous times a week for 2 years. Ruined my car

Foxhole Norman · 27-03-2018 11:23pm

stdidit wrote: »

Anyone know if there is a website that shows how much tax you pay, by car model?

Looking for an automatic car, probably 2008 - 2011 DOP, fairly open on model but want something low in tax. Willing to sacrifice power if needed as my other half will be learning to drive with it.

Motortax.ie will tell you, input the reg and it'll bring up its tax class.

stdidit · 27-03-2018 11:28pm

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Motortax.ie will tell you, input the reg and it'll bring up its tax class.

I know that, but I'm looking for a list of all car models and how much tax you would have to pay for each one. It would be a good starting point for me i.e. I could look at this fantasy list and decide I want to spend some time looking at car model x because tax for it is cheap.
Maybe such a list doesn't exist and I'm just a lazy so and so!

vintagevrs · 28-03-2018 12:17am

Why is tax priority one? It should be considered obviously, but as far as running a car goes a difference of one or two hundred euro in tax a year is negligible.

James Bond Junior · 28-03-2018 12:26am

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

I done the wild atlantic way from Westport to Clifden numerous times a week for 2 years. Ruined my car

Sorry to hear that, I would imagine the road between Galway and Clifden would be better maintained than the one between Westport and Clifden so..

Noccy_Mondy · 28-03-2018 12:39am

James Bond Junior wrote:

Sorry to hear that, I would imagine the road between Galway and Clifden would be better maintained than the one between Westport and Clifden so..

Ah it was just a load of different suspension parts that went in it. The Galway Clifden Road is (or was anyway) worse!!

stdidit · 28-03-2018 6:17am

vintagevrs wrote: »

Why is tax priority one? It should be considered obviously, but as far as running a car goes a difference of one or two hundred euro in tax a year is negligible.

I didn't say its priority one, just a good starting/reference point in my search. I just want a car that's cheap to run as won't be doing high mileage.

Anyway, if anyone knows of such a list, let me know.

cadaliac · 28-03-2018 7:10am

stdidit wrote: »

I didn't say its priority one, just a good starting/reference point in my search. I just want a car that's cheap to run as won't be doing high mileage.

Anyway, if anyone knows of such a list, let me know.

There’s no list, just co2 versus cost table on mywheels.ie
Each manufacturer has a list of cars and their co2 figures
You can use VTR calculator site if you have details of the car also.
Generally, you should find the type of car you want, spending budget and work it out from there, as slight variations in models will have slightly different co2 emissions and could land in a different tax band.
Insurance and running costs should also be considered, not just tax.
Work out your overall cost to change/upgrade

stdidit · 28-03-2018 7:30am

cadaliac wrote: »

There’s no list, just co2 versus cost table on mywheels.ie
Each manufacturer has a list of cars and their co2 figures
You can use VTR calculator site if you have details of the car also.
Generally, you should find the type of car you want, spending budget and work it out from there, as slight variations in models will have slightly different co2 emissions and could land in a different tax band.
Insurance and running costs should also be considered, not just tax.
Work out your overall cost to change/upgrade

Cool, thanks for the info.

vintagevrs · 28-03-2018 12:41pm

The E46 has halogen bulbs, and tbh the dip beam is pretty poor. Main beam is fine. I have been reading about headlight options.

My dip beam have a projector. Does that mean if I fit a HID kit it will be somewhat proper and work well? Anytime I have heard about HID kits I think about getting blinded by blue/purple lights.
Some thought is that a HID kit with a colour temp at 6000k will not be too blue and will look (from the outside) like OEM xenon as well as giving much better light output. The kits also defeat the blown bulb indicator.

The other option is buy 2nd hand xenon lights. This is more expensive, and will have the dash telling me I have blown bulbs. Apparently it also may through the millage tamper dot on my odometer

. Anyway, that stuff can be coded out I believe, but again more work/cost there.

So should I:
1. Leave my halogens as they are
2. Buy a HID kit
3. Buy a 2nd hand BMW pair of Xenon lights.

tossy · 28-03-2018 1:12pm

vintagevrs wrote: »

The E46 has halogen bulbs, and tbh the dip beam is pretty poor. Main beam is fine. I have been reading about headlight options.

My dip beam have a projector. Does that mean if I fit a HID kit it will be somewhat proper and work well? Anytime I have heard about HID kits I think about getting blinded by blue/purple lights.
Some thought is that a HID kit with a colour temp at 6000k will not be too blue and will look (from the outside) like OEM xenon as well as giving much better light output. The kits also defeat the blown bulb indicator.

The other option is buy 2nd hand xenon lights. This is more expensive, and will have the dash telling me I have blown bulbs. Apparently it also may through the millage tamper dot on my odometer. Anyway, that stuff can be coded out I believe, but again more work/cost there.

So should I:
1. Leave my halogens as they are
2. Buy a HID kit
3. Buy a 2nd hand BMW pair of Xenon lights.

I'd go with the 3rd option but i don't know what the story with retro fitting xenons on an E46 is, on VAG stuff you generally just need a loom adapter as the plugs will be different, of course to be fully legal you'll need self leveling and headlight washers but F that lol i'd just make sure they were properly aligned and if needed you could swap in the originals for NCTs.

MetzgerMeister · 28-03-2018 1:16pm

Xenons have to have headlight washers but as far as the NCT goes if they're not there it's fine. The problems arise when they are there but don't work.

vintagevrs · 28-03-2018 1:21pm

Cheers fellas, yeah aware of the self levelling and wash requirements, but feck that, I'll live life on the wild side and do without.

Maybe HID will work fine, but my worry is that after 2 months one side would fail and I'd end up going the OEM route anyway. But I don't know what coding is needed for the OEM ones, and maybe the HIDs would be perfect.

Alanstrainor · 28-03-2018 1:27pm

vintagevrs wrote: »

Cheers fellas, yeah aware of the self levelling and wash requirements, but feck that, I'll live life on the wild side and do without.

Maybe HID will work fine, but my worry is that after 2 months one side would fail and I'd end up going the OEM route anyway. But I don't know what coding is needed for the OEM ones, and maybe the HIDs would be perfect.

Would you not stick with the setup you have and try new bulbs?

vintagevrs · 28-03-2018 1:32pm

That's an option too. I did that with another car before though and didn't really notice much difference, that's why I hadn't considered it.

Alanstrainor · 28-03-2018 2:04pm

vintagevrs wrote: »

That's an option too. I did that with another car before though and didn't really notice much difference, that's why I hadn't considered it.

I've had mine for 6 years, so I'm just used to it now I guess! I wouldn't be expecting a huge jump, but they will make a difference. It's the cheapest route for now, no huge loss in trying something brighter to see if it gets closer to what you want.

JC01 · 28-03-2018 2:12pm

vintagevrs wrote: »

That's an option too. I did that with another car before though and didn't really notice much difference, that's why I hadn't considered it.

TBH 46s have terrible lights without HIDs and even then they are middling at best, you can fit a kit and it'll be a big improvement as you have the projectors anyway.

Just to make you aware though, I have seen in some semi-modern cars issues with HIDs loading circuits and momentarily "tripping" as you switch from dips/heads/dips. This isn't such a big issue on your car as if I recall correctly they don't switch off the dips when you switch on the heads, rather they leave both on.

UnknownSpecies · 28-03-2018 5:23pm

Had some great news today - my VRT appeal on the ST was accepted and I got a refund of €878!

The VRT calculator has the ST listed twice, both with different OMSP values. Of course I was charged the higher of the two which was an extra €650. This was daft and I even thought the lower OMSP was off, so decided to appeal.

I stated 2 cases for a refund. 1st was the duplicate entry in their system which I argued entitled me to at least the €650 difference between the higher and lower amounts. 2nd case was the lower OMSP being too high. I sent 8 pages of advert screenshots from pistonheads, autotrader and donedeal along with a table of all the asking prices and an average equivalent in €. I stated that OMSP is impossible to determine using the Irish market, so the UK market has to be used. I gave a calculation of UK average asking price + 15% Irish premium for the new OMSP.

In total I asked for a refund of €650 + €400 = €1050 in total. Was shocked and delighted when they posted me today stating the OMSP has been reevaluated and they met me in the middle. Never hurts to try

Noccy_Mondy · 28-03-2018 8:08pm

Been tidying up the alloys and arches of the mondeo the past few days. Got to the back wheels, so decided to pull of the arch liner while I was that far (carpet like material) and clean behind it. I was sure that there'd be some sort of rust spots building up with the perfect conditions there for it (dirt and moisture), but there was none! Build up of muck in some spots, cleaned them all out and popped back on the liner. Happy days.

Leonard Hofstadter · 28-03-2018 10:20pm

Alanstrainor wrote: »

vintagevrs wrote: »

Cheers fellas, yeah aware of the self levelling and wash requirements, but feck that, I'll live life on the wild side and do without.

Maybe HID will work fine, but my worry is that after 2 months one side would fail and I'd end up going the OEM route anyway. But I don't know what coding is needed for the OEM ones, and maybe the HIDs would be perfect.

Would you not stick with the setup you have and try new bulbs?

+1 on that, never had an issue with the lights on mine and I just have standard lights. I do remember that my Mum's Avensis had dipped headlights which became shocking over time and basically didn't work at all, but changing the bulbs resolved the issue, so definitely worth doing that for sure.

Alanstrainor · 28-03-2018 11:30pm

NCT in a little over a month, I had an intermittent ABS warning light coming on which disappeared for a few months only to reappear a couple of days ago. I must read the codes to see what it is, fingers crossed it's only a sensor and not something more serious!

Foxhole Norman · 29-03-2018 12:16am

Alanstrainor wrote: »

NCT in a little over a month, I had an intermittent ABS warning light coming on which disappeared for a few months only to reappear a couple of days ago. I must read the codes to see what it is, fingers crossed it's only a sensor and not something more serious!

Was it one of the rear wheel sensors you replaced before? Reckon it might be the module!

Leonard Hofstadter · 29-03-2018 12:37am

Wheel bearings are also a potential culprit, just because the computer says it's an ABS sensor doesn't necessarily mean it really is.

I think wheel sensors would only put on the yellow brake light and DSC light on permanently (i.e. the ABS light wouldn't come on).

Side note: looking forward to seeing how good the battery in the E46 is tomorrow. I haven't started the car in nearly three weeks but I'm going down to Cork tomorrow night

!

Foxhole Norman · 29-03-2018 1:01am

captainspeed wrote: »

Wheel bearings are also a potential culprit, just because the computer says it's an ABS sensor doesn't necessarily mean it really is.

I think wheel sensors would only put on the yellow brake light and DSC light on permanently (i.e. the ABS light wouldn't come on).

Side note: looking forward to seeing how good the battery in the E46 is tomorrow. I haven't started the car in nearly three weeks but I'm going down to Cork tomorrow night !

The ABS light would come on alright, I had it on mine when it was faulty on my 525i!

Cantona's Collars · 29-03-2018 1:35am

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7397421/083537a7/man_versus_vrouw.html

vintagevrs · 29-03-2018 12:00pm

So my e30 had a gremlin the last few weeks causing it to suddenly loose power and sometimes cut out. It was pissing me off and I had tried a few things to resolve it myself with no luck. Left it into a BM specialist there about 3 weeks ago for him to sort it. In the meantime I picked up another car as I figured I couldn't rely on a 27year old car as a daily any more. I've been flying that flag for two years almost now.

Anyway, got a call earlier this week to say he found the problem. It was a poorly crimped cable causing intermittent low voltage to the fuel pump. A previous owner had fitted some after market security that had since been removed hence the crimped wires. Same cause of a no start issue I had 18 months ago where a poorly crimped wire in the same place stopped power getting to the coil.

So picked up the e30 this morning, and was half expecting to find it uncomfortable and generally to be underwhelmed by it having put about 2k km on newer cars in the last few weeks. But when I hopped in I remembered why I bought the thing in the first place. First thing I noticed is your backside is lower. Not that the e46 is like an SUV but there's a big difference. Next thing then is everything just feels more direct. It's a bit cliche but the new car just feels like everything is wrapped in cotton wool, which is perfect for the commute in fairness.

The e30 feels much quicker than it's big brother too, but that might just be how it feels. Whether it is or not I've no idea.

The e30 still has 4 months tax on it. I thought I could claim this back as I was considering declaring it off the road. Turns out you can't do that....

So it's sitting there with tax but no insurance. Insurance for the year on a classic policy is €185 which is great. Next issue though is tax renewal time. Both cars are due at the same time, with is gonna cost about €1700 which I don't think I would like to pay.

Think I might park the e30 up until it's 30 year birthday.

James Bond Junior · 29-03-2018 12:04pm

Would you do 9 months in the e46 and then the other 3 in the e30. Or just tax the e30 in summertime? I did that last year and it worked pretty well.

Alanstrainor · 29-03-2018 12:08pm

Father and son. Both look amazing. +1 for trying to mix it up with taxing and running both. Not sure how practical that would be. But 1700 for the year is madness to tax both. Damn our tax system, it makes it impossible to run a weekend car unless it's a classic.

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