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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cordell wrote: »
    Cool, I can't wait for the launch of the white lives matter movement and white history month and white music festival and so on.
    Just try to and see how quickly it gets associated with KKK & Nazis by certain vested interests, equality these days means that some are to become more equal than others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Cordell wrote: »
    So what, are you surprised?
    If you're coming for a middle class (or above) background, you're educated and you earn above average, you have no criminal convictions then you are privileged and you display all the necessary signs of white privilege. Even if you're black.

    it opens a door that I would have thought be better kept closed , given a certain European artist from the last century who had come to the same conclusion

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    storker wrote: »
    You'd think a university would be able to recognise a slippery slope fallacy when it sees one...
    But they know how to divide and conquer!


    A cartoon that summarises just how successful wokeism has become in diverting attention from the real enemy!

    541026.jpeg


    The real enemy is
    depends on who you are, we all have different ideas on who the common enemy is and many of us believe it to be one group, the very group who are assisting in the promotion of wokism!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    silverharp wrote: »
    Critical ethnic studies in Californian schools have marked Jews as a privileged class..... let that sink in

    The hard on many in the modern left have for putting Jews in their corner is very disturbing.

    There are no shortage of disturbing things though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭AdrianBalboa


    biko wrote: »
    Mfaco grew up in Khayelitsha in Cape Town.
    He has a degree in politics and public administration from the University of the Western Cape.

    He applied for a scholarship for a master degree in University College Dublin and moved to Ireland in 2015.
    Mfaco applied for asylum in Ireland after completing his masters in 2017.

    I don't doubt life as a gay man in SA can be hard but tbh it doesn't seem to warrant refugee status.
    Khayelitsha is very poor though.
    It’s interesting that the kind of people who moan about any of kind of positive discrimination ie hiring more women in management positions are also the same kind of people who think university places should be kept only for Irish people.
    And you're basing this on what?
    biko wrote: »
    That is what the end result is.
    It's not about equality anymore, that is already achieved. Now it's about shifting resources further.

    Equality is having the same opportunities, whether you are Indian or African.
    Equity is getting the same result, whether you are Indian or African.

    It won't stop there. Just as females were pushed into positions of leadership using "positive discrimination", this will happen too for immigrants.
    The problem then of course becomes the self-doubt - "Did I get this job because I am good at what I do, or am I a token leader?"

    lol I knew it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    lol I knew it.

    You've lost me. All you're showing is that you make statements without any attempt at supporting them. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,244 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Good news everyone , the internet has some great new campaigners for regulation , Prince Harry and his wagon.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/01/26/harry-and-meghan-patrons-of-online-censorship/
    Harry and Meghan’s Archewell Foundation – a venture promoting various wellbeing-style initiatives – is about to launch a partnership with a leftist lobby group founded by a pair of academic critical theorists from the University of California. Their mutual aim is the further censorship of the internet.
    The UCLA Centre for Critical Internet Inquiry, known as C2i2, was created by Safiya Noble and Sarah T Roberts. Those wanting to understand the goals of C2i2 should check out its founders’ work. Take Noble’s own book, Algorithms of Oppression. This claims that ‘search engines, specifically Google, perpetuate discrimination and racism’.

    Noble wants the US government to ‘regulate decency’, and to stop search engines ‘imposing cultural values on a group’. This would mean almost anything could be censored according to the ‘the values assign to racial, gendered and sexual identities, as evidenced by the types of results that are retrieved’. This, she muses, might be ‘a permanent technical fix’ for ‘racist and sexist content’.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    Well, getting one’s period as young as 10 or 11 isn’t unusual now. The age has been reducing for a long time. Do you imagine that none of those 10 or 11 year olds live in poverty? Statistically, there has to be some who do. And they’re too young to work to earn money to buy those products.

    I’m not really sure of the age relevance? Is it really different to a 14/15 year old?

    A child/teenager should be having their sanitary products, food, clothes, medication and other essential items bought by their parents.

    Parents receive social welfare payments which should cover the above essential items.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    I’m not really sure of the age relevance? Is it really different to a 14/15 year old?

    A child/teenager should be having their sanitary products, food, clothes, medication and other essential items bought by their parents.

    Parents receive social welfare payments which should cover the above essential items.

    Because a teenager can at least do some part-time work: baby-sitting, dog-sitting etc. People don’t generally give those jobs to 11 year olds.

    You see no issue with a 10 or 11 year old getting their period and having no access to money or sanitary products? How do you think they should procure them?

    Children SHOULD be getting those things from their parents. However, some aren’t. Shall we let those children suffer whilst we say “should woulda coulda”? I find it most curious that some people think that children should pay for the sins of their parents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,146 ✭✭✭Cordell


    silverharp wrote: »
    it opens a door that I would have thought be better kept closed , given a certain European artist from the last century who had come to the same conclusion

    Identity politics opened that door. It slammed it open so hard it's going to be very difficult to close it back again.
    And, just like the artist, the people driving these "new" ideas think they're doing something great.


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    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    I’m not really sure of the age relevance? Is it really different to a 14/15 year old?

    A child/teenager should be having their sanitary products, food, clothes, medication and other essential items bought by their parents.

    Parents receive social welfare payments which should cover the above essential items.

    Look, let's make this easy to understand. There are people who can only receive the most basic form of welfare, and/or are working minimum wage jobs which can often be unreliable for any kind of job security.

    As such, there are people in this country, who struggle to budget what they have... to cover all necessities such as food, clothes, rent, in addition to the extra costs that children bring, such as school uniforms, school books, school trips, etc. And with that need to budget harshly, comes the sacrificing of certain products. Tampons likely being one of them.

    It shouldn't need to be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    Because a teenager can at least do some part-time work: baby-sitting, dog-sitting etc.

    You see no issue with a 10 or 11 year old getting their period and having no access to money or sanitary products? How do you think they should procure them?

    Children SHOULD be getting those things from their parents. However, some aren’t. Shall we let those children suffer whilst we say “should woulda coulda”? I find it most curious that some people think that children should pay for the sins of their parents.

    I just find it hard to believe that someone on social welfare cannot afford sanitary products. I’ve just checked an Irish Times article on it. The average cost per year is 132 euro. That’s 11 euro a month.

    If parents are refusing to buy them for the children then yes provide them but those parents would need to have their social welfare spending investigated. The social welfare in Ireland is enough to cover that expense.

    Do we start handing out free toilet roll, medication, clothes, food as well too?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    Look, let's make this easy to understand. There are people who can only receive the most basic form of welfare, and/or are working minimum wage jobs which can often be unreliable for any kind of job security.

    As such, there are people in this country, who struggle to budget what they have... to cover all necessities such as food, clothes, rent, in addition to the extra costs that children bring, such as school uniforms, school books, school trips, etc. And with that need to budget harshly, comes the sacrificing of certain products. Tampons likely being one of them.

    It shouldn't need to be.

    It’s 11 euro a month.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    It’s 11 euro a month.

    I've gone through periods in my life (when I was younger) when I didn't have much more than 5 euro to spend once rent, food, transportation, etc was taken care of.

    Life is often not as easy as you want to make it out to be. I'm guessing you've never hit rock bottom, or come close to it yet. Sometimes life throws a curve-ball at you, and having spare money for "luxuries" just isn't possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    I've gone through periods in my life (when I was younger) when I didn't have much more than 5 euro to spend once rent, food, transportation, etc was taken care of.

    Life is often not as easy as you want to make it out to be. I'm guessing you've never hit rock bottom, or come close to it yet. Sometimes life throws a curve-ball at you, and having spare money for "luxuries" just isn't possible.

    While I’ve never been rock bottom, I grew up in a one parent family with my parent having minimum wage jobs. Myself and my sibling always had the essentials but not much else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    I just find it hard to believe that someone on social welfare cannot afford sanitary products. I’ve just checked an Irish Times article on it. The average cost per year is 132 euro. That’s 11 euro a month.

    If parents are refusing to buy them for the children then yes provide them but those parents would need to have their social welfare spending investigated. The social welfare in Ireland is enough to cover that expense.

    Do we start handing out free toilet roll, medication, clothes, food as well too?

    Toilet roll is free in lots of places. Did you never notice?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Schools should provide sanitary products and education around same for young women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    Toilet roll is free in lots of places. Did you never notice?

    I did notice. What’s the point you are making?
    We aren’t a third world country, I’d be shocked if there were many families that could not afford 11 euro a month for an essential item if they were spending money wisely. Certainly not the 50% quoted.

    Nobody on here agrees with me so no point in replying any further.


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    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    While I’ve never been rock bottom, I grew up in a one parent family with my parent having minimum wage jobs. Myself and my sibling always had the essentials but not much else.

    And for a girl/woman, tampons should be an essential.. and yet, they might come second place to other considerations.

    I'd say that while welfare gives the impression that people in Ireland have it easier than ever before, this country has become a lot more expensive too over time.. I can certainly see why people might be struggling if they're on the lower end of the socio-economic zone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    I did notice. What’s the point you are making?
    We aren’t a third world country, I’d be shocked if there were many families that could not afford 11 euro a month for an essential item if they were spending money wisely. Certainly not the 50% quoted.

    Nobody on here agrees with me so no point in replying any further.

    I think it’s just that personal hygiene is so important societally. Nobody wants a kid to be walking around feeling uncomfortable in themselves and unclean. Getting periods young is enough to be dealing with in and of itself without worrying about how to deal with them. And believe me, menstruation gets stank fast if not properly cleaned up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    I think it’s just that personal hygiene is so important societally. Nobody wants a kid to be walking around feeling uncomfortable in themselves and unclean. Getting periods young is enough to be dealing with in and of itself without worrying about how to deal with them. And believe me, menstruation gets stank fast if not properly cleaned up.

    I think my main issue is the 50% can’t afford them and my thought process that it’s down to money going on items that would be considered luxury when compared to sanitary products.
    As an extreme example if a parent was a smoker, then it’s the cigarettes they can’t afford not the sanitary products.

    Obviously genuine cases should be looked after.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    I think my main issue is the 50% can’t afford them and my thought process that it’s down to money going on items that would be considered luxury when compared to sanitary products.
    As an extreme example if a parent was a smoker, then it’s the cigarettes they can’t afford not the sanitary products.

    Obviously genuine cases should be looked after.

    Well then, you get into asking children awkward questions. I can tell you that 11 year old menstruating me would have been mortified about being asked whether I had access to sanitary products.

    And if the child’s parent is spending the money on cigarettes instead, that’s not the child’s fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I think ultra wokeism of the year so far is that lesbian Ellen Page married a lady some time back and then lesbian Ellen Page became man Eliott Page (straight man, gay man, who knows!) and now the lady who married Ellen Page in the first place is divorcing Elliott Page, because, well, as a lesbian she married a woman but found herself quite unexpectedly with a man.

    Can you get divorced from someone you never married in the first place?

    Anyway, if you can get your head around THAT amount of four dimensional wokeness without meeting yourself coming backwards, you're a better person than I.


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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I think ultra wokeism of the year so far is that lesbian Ellen Page married a lady some time back and then lesbian Ellen Page became man Eliott Page (straight man, gay man, who knows!) and now the lady who married Ellen Page in the first place is divorcing Elliott Page, because, well, as a lesbian she married a woman but found herself quite unexpectedly with a man.

    Can you get divorced from someone you never married in the first place?

    Anyway, if you can get your head around THAT amount of four dimensional wokeness without meeting yourself coming backwards, you're a better person than I.

    Of course , they married that someone in the first place. Medical advances can alter the physical, but the mind/personality is something else entirely.

    Which, let's face it, is the crux of the whole trans debate for most non-trans people. You can change your 'bits', but you're still a man inside your head, complete with a lifetime of male experience, no matter how much you identify as a woman, or whatever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭46 Long


    Because a teenager can at least do some part-time work: baby-sitting, dog-sitting etc. People don’t generally give those jobs to 11 year olds.

    You see no issue with a 10 or 11 year old getting their period and having no access to money or sanitary products? How do you think they should procure them?

    Children SHOULD be getting those things from their parents. However, some aren’t. Shall we let those children suffer whilst we say “should woulda coulda”? I find it most curious that some people think that children should pay for the sins of their parents.

    Children should be taken into care if the parents are incapable of dealing with their hygiene needs. Tesco has sanitary towels for as little as €0.45 for a pack.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Woke-ism another cringey Americanism people are using nowadays thinking they are cool. The new snowflake. I wonder what the next buzz word will be. Surely fox news or some other American bleep will coin it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Woke-ism another cringey Americanism people are using nowadays thinking they are cool. The new snowflake. I wonder what the next buzz word will be. Surely fox news or some other American bleep will coin it.

    It was term used to help highlight racial inequality and the US alt right turned it into a derogatory term to encompass basically everything they don't like lol


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    rossie1977 wrote: »
    It was term used to help highlight racial inequality and the US alt right turned it into a derogatory term to encompass basically everything they don't like lol

    Nah. The woke left managed to alienate everyone they didn't agree with, creating a hostility to the idea of being "woke", which is associated with illogical people who are overly aggressive, constant victimhood and intolerance of differing opinions.

    It might (and I mean might) have started with good intentions, but it has been used to encourage expanding the divisions in society.

    Probably the reason why many people consider "woke" to be only a few steps away from Fascism, Communism, or whatever group who likes to burn heretics for being different.


  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    46 Long wrote: »
    Children should be taken into care if the parents are incapable of dealing with their hygiene needs. Tesco has sanitary towels for as little as €0.45 for a pack.

    And bring back the Magdalene laundries for the parents too, that'll teach 'em.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Nah. The woke left managed to alienate everyone they didn't agree with, creating a hostility to the idea of being "woke", which is associated with illogical people who are overly aggressive, constant victimhood and intolerance of differing opinions.

    It might (and I mean might) have started with good intentions, but it has been used to encourage expanding the divisions in society.

    Probably the reason why many people consider "woke" to be only a few steps away from Fascism, Communism, or whatever group who likes to burn heretics for being different.

    God what a load of ****e. I can't believe Irish people speak like this now. You're watching or reading too much American ****e. Under no circumstances did you form that opinion based off your day to day life in Ireland.

    That way of going on would fry your head. A good kick up the hole as my grandmother used to say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    God what a load of ****e. I can't believe Irish people speak like this now. You're watching or reading too much American ****e. Under no circumstances did you form that opinion based off your day to day life in Ireland.

    That way of going on would fry your head. A good kick up the hole as my grandmother used to say.

    Unfortunately it's the reality, Irish culure like it or not is downstream from American culture, what happens there will sooner or later come here.

    You can pretend it doesn't exist, but that's burying your head in the sand.


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    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    God what a load of ****e. I can't believe Irish people speak like this now. You're watching or reading too much American ****e. Under no circumstances did you form that opinion based off your day to day life in Ireland.

    well, sorry to shock you but many Irish people have traveled/lived extensively abroad. Perhaps you should take a step outside your neighborhood and understand how the world has changed while you've been pruning your rose bushes?

    As for how I "spoke" or wrote... there's nothing bizarre about the vocabulary used.. so I'm at a bit of a loss as to why you're going ape**** over it.

    In any case, has anyone suggested that this woke nonsense is part of day-to-day Irish life? I certainly haven't. It's pretty obvious that most of this is still centered on the Internet/Social media, and the US (It's becoming more common in the UK, and Australia too though).

    So... perhaps go nuts over what people have said as opposed to what you want them to say. :rolleyes:
    That way of going on would fry your head. A good kick up the hole as my grandmother used to say.

    Sure, which is why most woke people are considered to be nutty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭R.F.


    Nah. The woke left managed to alienate everyone they didn't agree with, creating a hostility to the idea of being "woke", which is associated with illogical people who are overly aggressive, constant victimhood and intolerance of differing opinions.

    It might (and I mean might) have started with good intentions, but it has been used to encourage expanding the divisions in society.

    Probably the reason why many people consider "woke" to be only a few steps away from Fascism, Communism, or whatever group who likes to burn heretics for being different.

    Stop listening to Ben Shapiro


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    R.F. wrote: »
    Stop listening to Ben Shapiro

    I don't.

    The attitudes represented on this thread are decidedly odd sometimes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    well, sorry to shock you but many Irish people have traveled/lived extensively abroad. Perhaps you should take a step outside your neighborhood and understand how the world has changed while you've been pruning your rose bushes?

    As for how I "spoke" or wrote... there's nothing bizarre about the vocabulary used.. so I'm at a bit of a loss as to why you're going ape**** over it.

    In any case, has anyone suggested that this woke nonsense is part of day-to-day Irish life? I certainly haven't. It's pretty obvious that most of this is still centered on the Internet/Social media, and the US (It's becoming more common in the UK, and Australia too though).

    So... perhaps go nuts over what people have said as opposed to what you want them to say. :rolleyes:



    Sure, which is why most woke people are considered to be nutty.

    God. You're even giving us the American spelling of neighbourhood now as well.

    I've also lived abroad. I didn't turn in to a dose of ****e.

    So you've formed this opinion from social media good grief.

    You sounded like one of those nut jobs from the US, the deranged type on the opposite side of your "woke" and just parroted a load of absolute ****e laden with buzzwords and bs, you haven't even experienced it here or elsewhere, just in an imaginative sense from what crap you consumed online. Nutty indeed.

    My granny was speaking about you.

    Anyway with covid being rampant I've had enough of doses. Slan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Disney Plus removed Dumbo, Peter Pan, The Aristocats and Swiss Family Robinson from the kids section....

    https://www.buzz.ie/movies-tv/disney-blocks-peter-pan-and-dumbo-from-kids-due-to-harmful-stereotypes-414510

    Pocahontas will be next, if it's not gone already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,024 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Disney Plus removed Dumbo, Peter Pan, The Aristocats and Swiss Family Robinson from the kids section....

    https://www.buzz.ie/movies-tv/disney-blocks-peter-pan-and-dumbo-from-kids-due-to-harmful-stereotypes-414510

    Pocahontas will be next, if it's not gone already

    We’ve got Disney+ here. To be honest, it’s basically all a “kid’s section”.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Nah. The woke left managed to alienate everyone they didn't agree with, creating a hostility to the idea of being "woke", which is associated with illogical people who are overly aggressive, constant victimhood and intolerance of differing opinions.

    The reason why after Capitalism's worst decade in a century, after a pandemic which highlights the need for better social healthcare, as the majority stand still economically in most of the western world the Left is largely politically dead in Europe and elsewhere.

    At it's most basic a lot of people in the Left have to stop being horrible twats to their party colleagues, their voting base and target voters.

    Forget the opposition or alt right, just stop being poisonous to those 3.

    That's not going to happen.


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    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    God. You're even giving us the American spelling of neighbourhood now as well.

    haha... you really have problems. But sure, my spelling has been Americanized, because I've taught American English abroad.
    I've also lived abroad. I didn't turn in to a dose of ****e.

    Strangely enough, based on the manner of your responses so far... you have.
    So you've formed this opinion from social media good grief.

    Nope. Once again, you've shown your complete inability to read what people have written, and instead, go off on a tangent of your own making.

    Hilarious.
    You sounded like one of those nut jobs from the US, the deranged type on the opposite side of your "woke" and just parroted a load of absolute ****e laden with buzzwords and bs, you haven't even experienced it here or elsewhere, just in an imaginative sense from what crap you consumed online. Nutty indeed.

    Um.. what buzzwords did I use? Any woke specific terminology? err... none?
    My granny was speaking about you.

    Anyway with covid being rampant I've had enough of doses. Slan

    It seems that your granny should have applied more of that reasoning to you, and your 'doses'.

    TBH you're doing an amazing impression of an outraged woke American blowing everything out of proportion... :pac:


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    Danzy wrote: »
    The reason why after Capitalism's worst decade in a century, after a pandemic which highlights the need for better social healthcare, as the majority stand still economically in most of the western world the Left is largely politically dead in Europe and elsewhere.

    At it's most basic a lot of people in the Left have to stop being horrible twats to their party colleagues, their voting base and target voters.

    Forget the opposition or alt right, just stop being poisonous to those 3.

    That's not going to happen.

    There's a difference between the political left, and the social left, which is what the woke movement consists of. But, sure, politics has turned into a cesspit of behaviors.

    As for capitalism's worst decade, that's due to failed economic models, and the application of dodgy financial ideas. Debt financing is a cancer in western business, just as the debt bubble was for banks. Short term gains for long term downfall. Capitalism is suffering because hard lessons weren't learned, but were merely shifted across industries. The same can be said regarding social policy, where failed systems were simply applied to other concerns, thinking it'll be different this time, even though the same practices/processes were applied.


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭Salvation Tambourine


    Disney Plus removed Dumbo, Peter Pan, The Aristocats and Swiss Family Robinson from the kids section....

    https://www.buzz.ie/movies-tv/disney-blocks-peter-pan-and-dumbo-from-kids-due-to-harmful-stereotypes-414510

    Pocahontas will be next, if it's not gone already

    The farmer in Fox & The Hound is a terrible stereotype of white, country farmers in America. I really hope they right this wrong and remove it from the kids section.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    It was term used to help highlight racial inequality and the US alt right identity politickers turned it into a derogatory term to encompass basically everything they don't like lol insanely believe
    FYP
    And so follows the disdain and ridicule.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,394 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Mfaco is on Twitter threatening to out the very people who reject the appeal for the review of the asylum interview process, calling on Justice Minister McEntee through the use of coercion.

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    The arrogance on display from a failed asylum seeker whose application has been denied 3 times. How and why is he even being entertained by this country.


    From the MASI “Submission to Justice and Equality Joint Committee 2019"
    "Civil servants would not treat asylum
    seekers the way they do if an Irish person, particularly a white Irish person,
    was observing the proceedings.[Page13]
    "

    So they want someone who they know will automatically accept their claim without any concern or doubt nor thought of questioning them in line with our Irish Law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    It was term used to help highlight racial inequality and the US alt right turned it into a derogatory term to encompass basically everything they don't like lol

    Actually, and this is denied now, ‘woke’ was initially not a pejorative when appropriated from its original usage. I recall media publications use it quite unironically circa 2017. The most well-known example of it being used as a complimentary word was that Kendall Jenner Pepsi ad. That ad was probably the point when the term curdled and started to be used pejoratively because it was such a pilloried advertisement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭Salvation Tambourine


    "Civil servants would not treat asylum
    seekers the way they do if an Irish person, particularly a white Irish person,
    was observing the proceedings.[Page13]"

    It must be nice to be able throw accusations of racism around knowing there will be no repercussions if it's found to be false.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I wonder if the actions of Bulelani Mfaco are winning regular Irish people over, or pushing them further away?


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    ""Civil servants would not treat asylum
    seekers the way they do if an Irish person, particularly a white Irish person,
    was observing the proceedings.[Page13]""

    Makes little sense to me... aren't most of the civil servants white? They're already observing the proceedings. Seems an oddly worded paragraph.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Nokotan wrote: »
    It must be nice to be able throw accusations of racism around knowing there will be no repercussions if it's found to be false.
    He also calls the Civil Service officials who make these decisions as having unbounded bigotry. Astounding. Bulelani Mfaco knows that no matter how more rejections of his asylum application will take place, he is going nowhere. While he should be deported back to South Africa, it looks like we have him for keeps. This is also the man who demanded his own home (for himself) instead of Direct Provision accommodation ..... as a failed asylum seeker.

    Even with all surreal stuff that is going on with Covid, this man's story tops the list of insane and bewildering situations that are allowed to fester in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Mfaco is on Twitter threatening to out the very people who reject the appeal for the review of the asylum interview process, calling on Justice Minister McEntee through the use of coercion.


    njbh


    cytc

    The arrogance on display from a failed asylum seeker whose application has been denied 3 times. How and why is he even being entertained by this country.


    From the MASI “Submission to Justice and Equality Joint Committee 2019"



    So they want someone who they know will automatically accept their claim without any concern or doubt nor thought of questioning them in line with our Irish Law.


    It's all about Mfaco first and foremost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭AllForIt




    I read that with mouth agape. Anyone who doesn't read that list of demands and doesn't realise we're being taken for fools is in fact a fool.


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