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Eurovision 2018

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Think I'm gonna avoid the rehearsals if I can. I'd like to leave some bit of mystery for the finals!

    France are now up to 2nd favourite to win. As much as I'd love it to, I can't see it happening. Amir only got 9th in the televote with a superior song.


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Think I'm gonna avoid the rehearsals if I can. I'd like to leave some bit of mystery for the finals!

    But you'll miss all the excitement like....Czech Republic badly injuring himself!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BiKmTzNnUkU/

    He does a nice little trick with his backpack towards the end of the video. Maybe the 2nd attempt didn't go too well. Hope he gets well!



    Edit: Actually in the thumbnail for the video you can see him doing a flip. Maybe it was that!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Poor Mikolas, very unfortunate. Hope he recovers in time but it might be safer for him to just sing and let his dancers handle the choreography among themselves.

    Saw a couple of the clips, wasn't impressed with the approach Israel has taken. (spoilered for yerwanthere! :p )
    The Japanese outfit and oriental "lucky cats" just seems very random; it has no relation to the song and just seems kinda tacky. I hate how overused the term "cultural appropriation" is, but it is kinda appropriate here when you're just taking an unrelated Japanese theme to try and be "quirky" or whatever!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The Japanese outfit and oriental "lucky cats" just seems very random; it has no relation to the song and just seems kinda tacky. I hate how overused the term "cultural appropriation" is, but it is kinda appropriate here when you're just taking an unrelated Japanese theme to try and be "quirky" or whatever!

    Apparently she's referencing the Jap cat (Pikachu) thing to her own 'lady cat'

    2nd Verse:
    'I’m taking my Pikachu home'

    The Chicken theme is deployed almost as a battle rap probably against a previous cowardly action from a chap, female empowerment and all that jazz.

    Further spitting of lyrics such as
    Kulului, Kulului, Ah, money man bling-bling
    I don’t care about your ‘stefa’, [cash, money] baby
    Pam pam pa hoo, Turram pam pa hoo

    Likely further reinforce that she ain't nobody's 'toy' and can't be bought.
    Deep.


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    *spills coffee all over his keyboard at work*

    And they're only giving 60% as it's rehearsals. :D



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Cyprus have jumped from mid-market 70/1 to about 6th place with a couple of bookies 12/1, that puts them nearly on par with Estonia.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Decided I'm following the rehearsals but not actually going to watch the clips. Having done so in the past, when I actually watch the show itself it feels like watching an episode of a tv programme I've already seen.

    Anyway, biggest development from today is Norway went up to second favourite, but have dipped slightly to third now. I think it'll get top 5 but I can't see it seriously challenging for the win. Israel's first rehearsal didn't go that well, they're still the favourites although odds have lengthened. Very eager to see how the market will react to France's first rehearsal, which we won't see until Friday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Anyway, biggest development from today is Norway went up to second favourite, but have dipped slightly to third now. I think it'll get top 5 but I can't see it seriously challenging for the win. Israel's first rehearsal didn't go that well, they're still the favourites although odds have lengthened. Very eager to see how the market will react to France's first rehearsal, which we won't see until Friday.

    Rybak is pure showman and fans love him. A win is very possible, even with this so-so song. The press conference seemed packed!

    I finally placed a small E/W outright bet on FYR Macedonia. Got 300/1! :)

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    Plan to do a few Semi Final qualifying bets tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Amik wrote: »
    Rybak is pure showman and fans love him. A win is very possible, even with this so-so song. The press conference seemed packed!

    I finally placed a small E/W outright bet on FYR Macedonia. Got 300/1! :)

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    Plan to do a few Semi Final qualifying bets tomorrow.
    I got Macedonia at 20-1 for top 10 sure we will see... In very tough semi but who knows.

    I can see why Cyprus song is flying up the odds it is very catchy and stands out.

    The Norway song I just don't get at all.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    gmisk wrote: »
    I got Macedonia at 20-1 for top 10 sure we will see... In very tough semi but who knows.

    I can see why Cyprus song is flying up the odds it is very catchy and stands out

    Cyprus's rehearsal was a big surprise. Our poor Ryan has to run off stage immediately after his performance to avoid getting burned by Eleni's fire. :D
    Her song is a bit too contemporary for me though.

    Zero chatter about Australia here. What does everyone think of their odds? Her song is a bit too Disney-ish for me.

    Also realized Italy has been completely quiet. No pre-party appearances even?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    The reception for Ireland's first rehearsal has been pretty lukewarm. I thought it was a good idea bringing the dancers from the video but seems it hasn't been going down too well. Probably not gonna be helped being followed by Cyprus either. Still, they've got time to improve things.


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    The reception for Ireland's first rehearsal has been pretty lukewarm. I thought it was a good idea bringing the dancers from the video but seems it hasn't been going down too well. Probably not gonna be helped being followed by Cyprus either. Still, they've got time to improve things.

    We can't see how it looks on-screen yet but in the single shot rehearsal videos the dancers are very distracting -- the focus should be on Ryan and his guitar.

    The made-up story about Russia banning the video has come back to haunt the delegation, too.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Amik wrote: »
    We can't see how it looks on-screen yet but in the single shot rehearsal videos the dancers are very distracting -- the focus should be on Ryan and his guitar.

    The made-up story about Russia banning the video has come back to haunt the delegation, too.

    Yeah, that was silly. Although one point I saw made today is that he'll be marked down quite a bit by the Eastern European juries, which I do think is true. Conchita received low scores from a lot of those juries, but was buffered by the higher televote scores.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Amik wrote: »
    I finally placed a small E/W outright bet on FYR Macedonia. Got 300/1! :)

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    Plan to do a few Semi Final qualifying bets tomorrow.

    Fook 300/1 e/w is fine, thought max was 250. Top 10 of course is the more practical option. Whilst there is only 3places (as opposed to 4 for final) in the SF's it's half-the field so to speak with France etc exempt.

    i)Top10 for the Macadians, can also be used as part of accumulator. That way only very small stakes only are ever involved. Single novelty markets always need an air of caution with them.

    Reckon Real Madrid will take the title, much to the disapoitment of LFC soccerball fans, who ii). May beat Roma 3-1 later today), and ii) Ali Carter will smash it over in the snooker balls etc. That's a 3,500/1 treble there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Amik wrote: »
    Cyprus's rehearsal was a big surprise. Our poor Ryan has to run off stage immediately after his performance to avoid getting burned by Eleni's fire. :D
    Her song is a bit too contemporary for me though.

    Zero chatter about Australia here. What does everyone think of their odds? Her song is a bit too Disney-ish for me.

    Also realized Italy has been completely quiet. No pre-party appearances even?
    I saw a few things on wiwibloggs about Australia rehearsal....it was not complimentary at all....

    Are poland at 12/1 for top 10 a really bad bet?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    gmisk wrote: »
    Are poland at 12/1 for top 10 a really bad bet?

    Not bad at all in my opinion. I did the same bet but at 10/1. Rehearsal OK and it's one of the more lively songs in Semi Final 2. Gromee's snake dance should be a meme hit. :)

    Bit of controversy surrounding Sweden after an interview where he disrespected several acts, even our beloved Macedonia (claiming she passed wind in the official video)!!! Wiwibloggs have taken the video down but thanks to the Internet it lives on...

    https://twitter.com/LarisaHelenaa/status/989589455903260673

    Seems like an annoying guy you'd run into at Coppers. :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    gmisk wrote: »
    Are poland at 12/1 for top 10 a really bad bet?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Amik wrote: »
    Not bad at all in my opinion. I did the same bet but at 10/1. Rehearsal OK and it's one of the more lively songs in Semi Final 2. Gromee's snake dance should be a meme hit. :)

    Bit of controversy surrounding Sweden after an interview where he disrespected several acts, even our beloved Macedonia (claiming she passed wind in the official video)!!! Wiwibloggs have taken the video down but thanks to the Internet it lives on...

    https://twitter.com/LarisaHelenaa/status/989589455903260673

    Seems like an annoying guy you'd run into at Coppers. :P
    Thats pretty poor form....throwing stones glass houses etc....
    his song sounds "current" apparently and by current I mean a bad Nick Jonas single from 2016.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Amik wrote: »
    Bit of controversy surrounding Sweden after an interview where he disrespected several acts, even our beloved Macedonia (claiming she passed wind in the official video)!!! Wiwibloggs have taken the video down but thanks to the Internet it lives on...

    How dare the Swede boy claim the loverley Marija let one rip (unlikely unless she's a fan of the mighty Guinness), as a result Swe has drifted out from early favourites into 8th place averaging 20/1.

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    Nice outfits from the FYROM ladies:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    How dare the Swede boy claim the loverley Marija let one rip (unlikely unless she's a fan of the mighty Guinness), as a result Swe has drifted out from early favourites into 8th place averaging 20/1.

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    Nice outfits from the FYROM ladies:

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    Good to see it dropping like a stone!
    Tis rubbish!

    Go on Macedonia! (and Poland ha)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik



    Nice outfits from the FYROM ladies:

    This one leaves less to the imagination, Chris Wooden Motorbike. ;)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    2nd Rehearsals started today and the clips this time around are using the real camera work:

    The stage doesn't look bad at all.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Amik wrote: »
    This one leaves less to the imagination, Accumulator. ;)

    Of course she should be primarily judged on the funky music, with the looks or staging secondary...

    But looks wise, has a bit of similarity to another 'multi-platinum, mult-award winning singer (x33 major nominations, 1/3 of them won) over the last 2yrs.

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    The Polish tune (from memory) should also qualify for the finals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    gmisk wrote: »
    Thats pretty poor form....throwing stones glass houses etc....
    his song sounds "current" apparently and by current I mean a bad Nick Jonas single from 2016.

    He sounds exactly like Justin Bieber!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    mimimcmc wrote: »
    He sounds exactly like Justin Bieber!
    Ah yeah thats a good call as well.
    Its just instantly meh to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    gmisk wrote: »
    Ah yeah thats a good call as well.
    Its just instantly meh to me.

    I was listening to the eurovision playlist on spotify and actually thought it had ended when this song came on, genuinely thought it was Bieber...

    Imagine it was Bieber (Milli Vanill style) and then revealed on the night and go on to win it :o
    Stranger things have happened...


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    To compensate for the lack of an LED screen this year many acts seem to be using on-screen graphics, including transitions. They look quite slick.

    Rybak's graphics are supposed to look very good. May get a chance to see a clip tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Completed my betting this afternoon at my local walk-in bookies:

    Macedonia Outright E/W - 300/1
    Poland Outright E/W - 350/1
    Macedonia Top 10 - 20/1
    Poland Top 10 - 10/1
    Macedonia to Qualify - 2.5/1
    Slovenia to Qualify - 3/1

    Off to pick out a lambo... ;)


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    Saw this video on the Eurovision Youtube channel, thought it was quite funny:



    If only they did some of this with the "official" version, they could have out-Macedonia'ed Macedonia! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    I've been reading that Netta dropped the live looper idea! Maybe she'll fall back from 1st in the betting as a result? Would give Netanyahu a chance to bet on her at 10/1. ;)

    Staging looks very sharp with the real camera work:



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  • Registered Users Posts: 48 CroFag


    Happy to see so much hype about the beautiful Macedonian singer (:

    How about Franka from Croatia, anybody thinks she might make it to the finals?


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    CroFag wrote: »
    Happy to see so much hype about the beautiful Macedonian singer (:

    How about Franka from Croatia, anybody thinks she might make it to the finals?

    Lots of love for Macedonia's song from die hard ESC fans and casuals. The main concern everyone is chatting about is the staging. From the official rehearsal clips I like what I see but others think it's too chaotic and busy -- mixed feelings about the backing singers, too.

    I don't agree with it but some chatter that Marija is in the running for the Barbara Dex Award! NEVER! :D

    Croatia is looking and sounding impressive. I'd be confident placing a qualifying and even Top 10 finish bet on her. In my opinion she's looking a better bet than Belgium at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    CroFag wrote: »
    Happy to see so much hype about the beautiful Macedonian singer (:

    How about Franka from Croatia, anybody thinks she might make it to the finals?
    I think the studio version is fantastic for Macedonia.....the live clips and staging.....are not promising....hence it is drifting in the betting.

    Croatia....they might scrape in, they are in the really tough semi along with Ireland though :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    gmisk wrote: »
    I think the studio version is fantastic for Macedonia.....the live clips and staging.....are not promising....hence it is drifting in the betting.

    Especially in yesterday's 2nd Rehearsal clip the male half Bojan who I'm so jealous gets to hang out with Marija all day is the main vocal in the pre-chorus, which doesn't sound good.

    Still have hopes they'll have it all polished up by next week!


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Saw this video on the Eurovision Youtube channel, thought it was quite funny:



    If only they did some of this with the "official" version, they could have out-Macedonia'ed Macedonia! :pac:

    Here's a fun mashup they did with Austria...



  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    Amik wrote: »
    Here's a fun mashup they did with Austria...


    Love this! but i'm a huge fan of the Austrian song anyway :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    mimimcmc wrote: »
    Love this! but i'm a huge fan of the Austrian song anyway :D

    +1 Big fan of his song too. Very very impressive rehearsals from Austria. Staging is all focused around him too, which is perfect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    Amik wrote: »
    +1 Big fan of his song too. Very very impressive rehearsals from Austria. Staging is all focused around him too, which is perfect.

    Ya it was impressive looking alright, only worried that he's gonna change the end of it with a load of high notes...didn't like the notes he was hitting :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    mimimcmc wrote: »
    Ya it was impressive looking alright, only worried that he's gonna change the end of it with a load of high notes...didn't like the notes he was hitting :rolleyes:

    I've been getting all my co-workers to listen to all the songs today. I know it's not scientific but the 3 everyone are highlighting are Croatia, Austria and Macedonia! Really is the tightest race in recent years.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48 CroFag


    I've been getting all my co-workers to listen to all the songs today. I know it's not scientific but the 3 everyone are highlighting are Croatia, Austria and Macedonia! Really is the tightest race in recent years.
    Weee, wo-hoo, thank you Ireland, Merci Irlande xD

    Yeah, Franka is very sexy & speaks perfect "Cambridge" English, plus she is a huge eurovision fan, since early childhood (just like me).

    Considering it's a good song (in English), feedback from you & the size of Croatian diaspora in the republic, hope we send her many points on Tuesday.

    PS. Will root for Irish song on Croatian forums, as it's a nice love ballad with a brave choreography.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    The cyprus tune live is CLASS!
    The rehearsals look great!
    I think it could even be top 10 if not top 5


  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    Amik wrote: »
    I've been getting all my co-workers to listen to all the songs today. I know it's not scientific but the 3 everyone are highlighting are Croatia, Austria and Macedonia! Really is the tightest race in recent years.

    my three favourite songs are Denmark, Austria and Lithuania. I don't think any of them will win unfortunately...

    I see why everyone loves Macedonia too, the song ticks a lot of boxes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    mimimcmc wrote: »
    my three favourite songs are Denmark, Austria and Lithuania. I don't think any of them will win unfortunately...

    I see why everyone loves Macedonia too, the song ticks a lot of boxes

    I'm deliberately not looking at any of the rehearsals as I prefer to watch them live on the night. From listening to the Spotify playlist though the 3 you mention there are my 3 favourites. I also like Germany and Hungary. Wasn't too pushed on the Macedonia song tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    My favourites
    Bulgaria
    Cyprus
    Macedonia (some staging issues though)
    Azerbaijan (seriously catchy even with the rubbish lyrics)
    France - very classy could see this winning

    I dont get the Norway song at all.

    I can see why Israel are current favourites defo top 5.

    The Denmark song is a bit too west end for me, but it is solid. That snow is a disaster atm

    Ireland very slim chance to qualify, he has a great voice but the song and staging aren't great imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    mimimcmc wrote: »
    my three favourite songs are Denmark, Austria and Lithuania. I don't think any of them will win unfortunately...

    I really find the song and Ieva's voice special -- sweet and delicate! It's in a tough semi though.

    If it's too soft for your tastes there's a nice remix available:



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  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    gmisk wrote: »
    Ireland very slim chance to qualify, he has a great voice but the song and staging aren't great imo.

    In today's 2nd rehearsal clip the staging doesn't look too bad. The focus is on Ryan and the dancers are more in the background. I really like the simple lamp post on the stage.

    One of the ESC podcasts said Ireland's hot air balloon from last year is a running joke among the production crew this year. Supposedly caused lots of problems getting it on and off stage in the 30 seconds required to set-up. :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Lithuania getting a lot of positive feedback from their rehearsal, Macedonia meanwhile is apparently terrible live.

    Really looking forward to seeing the reaction to France later, especially the betting market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Amik wrote: »
    In today's 2nd rehearsal clip the staging doesn't look too bad. The focus is on Ryan and the dancers are more in the background. I really like the simple lamp post on the stage.

    One of the ESC podcasts said Ireland's hot air balloon from last year is a running joke among the production crew this year. Supposedly caused lots of problems getting it on and off stage in the 30 seconds required to set-up. :)
    Glad to hear that!
    Would be lovely to cheer Ireland on in final.
    The balloon is literally the only memorable thing from Ireland entry last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭mimimcmc


    Mollyb60 wrote: »
    I'm deliberately not looking at any of the rehearsals as I prefer to watch them live on the night. From listening to the Spotify playlist though the 3 you mention there are my 3 favourites. I also like Germany and Hungary. Wasn't too pushed on the Macedonia song tbh.
    We must have very similar taste in music Cuz I also love the Hungary song, it's very like 30 seconds to Mars


  • Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Amik


    Confirmation from Netta herself that she's performing without a looper. She's visibly not happy about it.

    I also pass similar questions where "it's his fault" to my manager for answering. :D




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