Upcoming DC Extended Universe (DCEU) Movies

the baby bull elephant · 12-06-2018 9:51am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Jim Lee as in "primarily known for his art" Jim Lee?

He's been an editor for years, more involved in the business side of DC these days than doing any actual ongoings.

Agent Coulson · 14-06-2018 7:35am

Todd Philips’ Joker Film Expected To Shoot This Fall With Joaquin Phoenix & Small Budget

https://theplaylist.net/todd-philips-joker-film-20180613/

Penn · 14-06-2018 8:34am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Todd Philips’ Joker Film Expected To Shoot This Fall With Joaquin Phoenix & Small Budget

https://theplaylist.net/todd-philips-joker-film-20180613/

Any word on who Small Budget will be playing?

Agent Coulson · 14-06-2018 8:46am

Penn wrote: »

Any word on who Small Budget will be playing?

Small Budget is the latest small deal rapper the kids are down with.

Doctor DooM · 14-06-2018 10:44am

He only drinks bucks fizz and throws euro coins at people

kerplun k · 14-06-2018 11:27am

He buys his kicks in Pennys

Bacchus · 21-06-2018 10:08am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Todd Philips’ Joker Film Expected To Shoot This Fall With Joaquin Phoenix & Small Budget

https://theplaylist.net/todd-philips-joker-film-20180613/

It's great that DC/WB are taking steps to rectify their movie universe but what is proposed there sounds like an absolute clusterf*ck. Trying to keep one foot in the existing established universe but at the same time completely undermining it by setting up a new "parallel" DC universe with a younger Batman and ploughing on with two Joker films portrayed by different actors. Also, this new universe will be DC Dark or DC Black... because that's what everyone's been asking for, an even darker series of DC movies.

They should have kept the good (WW, Superman, Flash), worked on the middling (Aquaman, Cyborg) with their "origin" movies and scraped the rest of the mess. They have the core characters in place, they just need to start telling good stories and building an interesting universe. Do that or... burn the whole thing to the ground and start again. What they're proposing is a half measure between the two.

BTW, I didn't include Batman in "the good" as it's clear Batfleck is leaving so... that's an interesting mess they need to clean up. Actually it was probably the biggest risk they made to introduce a Batman so late into his career, and with how's it's gone with Affleck, it's backfiring. They've nowhere to go with that character now, especially with a recast.

HandsomeBob · 21-06-2018 12:30pm

I don't see the issue in an Elseworlds type universe where they can do standalone films. I'm relaxed about it anyway and very much interested in Phoenix's take. It's only a film at the end of the day, no idea why some people get so worked up about it.

IncognitoMan · 21-06-2018 12:52pm

I would think it will lead to problems for general audiences and trying to explain why there are 2 different Jokers and Batman but if they do it right and make it clear that it's different I don't have an issue.

In fact the idea of them giving more directors and actors a chance to put their spin on something is interesting. We could get something truly unique and great out of this kind of approach without having to worry about how this all fits in with every other movie.

GhostyMcGhost · 21-06-2018 10:19pm

IncognitoMan wrote: »

We could get something truly unique and great out of this kind of approach without having to worry about how this all fits in with every other movie.

1 year ago the same could be said for justice league

pixelburp · 21-06-2018 10:35pm

IncognitoMan wrote: »

I would think it will lead to problems for general audiences and trying to explain why there are 2 different Jokers and Batman but if they do it right and make it clear that it's different I don't have an issue.

In fact the idea of them giving more directors and actors a chance to put their spin on something is interesting. We could get something truly unique and great out of this kind of approach without having to worry about how this all fits in with every other movie.

Thing is, that only works if they actually, honestly give the directors & actors the latitude, time and money to be creative.

But that doesn't happen, it never happens when studios 'say' they want to give creative control: what actually occurs is that about 60% through the shoot, the execs see a rough draft, freak out that it's too edgy/indy/arthouse/unmarketable, panic fire the director or force a bunch of film-destroying reshoots. For a textbook case, see the Josh Trank Fantastic Four reboot. And of course by butchering the film and creating a tonne of bad press, it just turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Or, you get a circumstance like Bladerunner 2049, where the studio DOES give the director & pals the space to make the creative decisions, but the film cost too much so ends up flopping anyway.

Maybe, maybe if WB/DC stepped back and said "right, here's $50 million, go make a Joker movie & call us when it's done", there's a chance the film might not only be something unique, the low cost would mean a profit would sooner happen.

But again, that just won't happen. The IP is too valuable and too 'big' to be small. It has to be a blockbuster, and blockbusters gotta cost $150+ million.

IncognitoMan · 21-06-2018 11:26pm

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

1 year ago the same could be said for justice league

What? Justice League was all about dealing with the events of other films. We spend half the film getting to the part where they undo the death of superman from BvS.

JL is the complete opposite example of what I'm talking about.

Nolan's Batman trilogy is more what I meant. A self contained story away from everything else that only has to focus on its own world.

They are obviously not going to give up on the team up films though so if DC was to do these side projects where they give a talented director a chance to work with some of the best characters in comics then I'm all for it. Big IF though.

Bacchus · 22-06-2018 11:15am

IncognitoMan wrote: »

What? Justice League was all about dealing with the events of other films. We spend half the film getting to the part where they undo the death of superman from BvS.

JL is the complete opposite example of what I'm talking about.

I get your point and looking back now it makes perfect sense but throw your mind back to pre-JL, fans of the DCEU were still bigging it up as a unique vision of a comic book universe where directors had creative freedom. It was the breath of fresh air to the "bland/formulaic" MCU model. JL was the final nail in the coffin of that myth (IMO).

So, this NEW vision for DC movies just sounds like a lot of the same talk but ultimately I expect it to falter and we'll end up with an even bigger mess that doesn't even deliver on the promise of creative freedom.

Don't confuse the above with me "hoping/waiting" for DC to falter. I just no longer have any expectation that they can salvage anything from where they are now given the proposed plans for future movies. I really think they should have focused on rescuing the DCEU... I mean, where's the Flash movie at?! Where's MoS 2? If it wasn't for Cavill and Gadot, I'd be in favour of a hard reboot TBH.

pixelburp · 11-07-2018 5:21pm

The first official photo from 'shazam' has been revealed: http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/11/shazam-zachary-levi-costume-photo/

Really not much to go on beyond the costume, which looks conspicuously more colourful than other DC costumes.

Tazzimus · 12-07-2018 9:40am

Don't worry, they'll leech the colour out of it during the post shoot edits.

HandsomeBob · 12-07-2018 4:35pm

Just something I'm dreading about the film that I can't put my finger on....maybe it's because I don't think the character will translate well to the big screen.

pixelburp · 12-07-2018 5:46pm

pixelburp wrote: »

[...]
Maybe, maybe if WB/DC stepped back and said "right, here's $50 million, go make a Joker movie & call us when it's done", there's a chance the film might not only be something unique, the low cost would mean a profit would sooner happen.

But again, that just won't happen. The IP is too valuable and too 'big' to be small. It has to be a blockbuster, and blockbusters gotta cost $150+ million.

Uhm, guys? I think either WB/DC reads Boards, or else I'm an executive at the studio and I didn't even know it:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joaquin-phoenixs-joker-origin-movie-officially-a-go-1126127

The Joker origin movie is officially a go at Warner Bros. Joaquin Phoenix recently finalized his deal to star as the arch-nemesis of Batman and shooting is set to begin in September in New York.
[...]
The project's budget is in the $55 million range, significantly lower than the tentpoles that dominate the form. And the stand-alone is meant to be darker and more experimental in tone and content (at least as experimental as a studio can be with established brands such as DC), which is described as being akin to a crime drama.

There's still plenty to go wrong, not least the distinct possibility of WB/DC freaking out that their requested 'experimental' film is too experimental, and mutate the film with reshoots.

HandsomeBob · 12-07-2018 5:50pm

Completely random thought: would love to see Phoenix play an utterly off the wall Joker against an uber straight no jokes Batman, someone like Karl Urban.

IncognitoMan · 12-07-2018 5:55pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Don't worry, they'll leech the colour out of it during the post shoot edits.

Bet they don't.

Foxtrol · 12-07-2018 6:51pm

I understand doing one off movies which do not necessarily fit into a larger universe is tempting but things like origin stories really should be somewhat canon.

FunLover18 · 12-07-2018 6:57pm

Isn't the whole point of the Joke that we don't know his origin, we don't need to know it.

the baby bull elephant · 12-07-2018 9:43pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

Isn't the whole point of the Joke that we don't know his origin, we don't need to know it.

Somewhat, The Killing Joke is a famous and generally highly rated story (I personally don’t think it holds up as well as some Moore’s other stories) that deals with an origin for the Joker. Bill Finger and Scott Snyder have also done storylines that work as an origin so it can be done. There is a preference for ambiguity though and I do think it works better for the character to have a multiple choice past. So it could work as a film but a straight up origin would probably take away from the character even if it could make a good film.

dublinman1990 · 13-07-2018 1:39am

Re: Shazam!

The first teaser trailer for this movie will be unveiled at SDCC on Saturday week.

https://batman-news.com/2018/07/11/shazam-trailer-next-week-san-diego-comic-con/

Tazzimus · 13-07-2018 9:00am

IncognitoMan wrote: »

Bet they don't.

I hope to be pleasantly surprised, but their track record makes me sceptical.

IncognitoMan · 13-07-2018 1:12pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

I hope to be pleasantly surprised, but their track record makes me sceptical.

I think what you are more likely to see is a complete shift in the opposite direction to be honest.

Probably for the worse too, as the over done colours at the end of Justice League were way too much. Made the whole thing look kinda cheap in places.

Agent Coulson · 16-07-2018 9:23pm

Bacchus · 17-07-2018 9:11am

There's a "Finding Aquaman" mashup somewhere out there on the Internet.

Agent Coulson · 19-07-2018 12:46pm

'Joker' Origin Movie Lands Fall 2019 Release Date

Joaquin Phoenix is starring as the iconic villain in the Warner Bros. and DC film, which has gotten its official title — 'Joker.'
Director Todd Phillips' stand-alone Joker movie, starring Joaquin Phoenix, is set to hit theaters Oct. 4, 2019, Warner Bros. and Village Roadshow said late Wednesday afternoon.

The release date, and title, were revealed just as this year's edition of the ultimate fanboy gathering — Comic-Con — got underway in San Diego. Warners and DC will take the stage there on Saturday.

October 2019 boasts a slew of high-profile titles. Joker will open opposite Paramount's Gemini Man and Fox's The Woman in the Window, followed a week later by Disney's Jungle Cruise starring Dwayne Johnson and fellow Warners title The Goldfinch. And on Nov. 1, DC and Warners will unfurl Wonder Woman 1984.

Last month, Phoenix finalized his deal to star as the arch-nemesis of Batman. The studio describes Phillips' film as being an “exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale.” Phillips and Scott Silver co-wrote the script.

Joker's budget is in the $55 million range, significantly lower than the tentpoles that dominate the form. And the movie, set to begin production later this year, is meant to be darker and more experimental in tone and content (at least as experimental as a studio can be with established brands such as DC), which is described as being akin to a crime drama.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joker-origin-pic-lands-fall-2019-release-date-1128203

HandsomeBob · 19-07-2018 4:33pm

hmmmm.....wonder if the title hints that they might take some inspiration from Brian Azarello's graphic novel. sort of portrayal that i think would suit Phoenix well.

Agent Coulson · 20-07-2018 7:25pm

dublinman1990 · 21-07-2018 4:08pm

The SDCC panel for WB/DC from Hall H starts this evening at 6:30pm Irish time.

All associated trailers for Aquaman, Shazam & WW 84 are expected to be released online later today along with live promotions from the panel.

https://batman-news.com/2018/07/21/aquaman-wonder-woman-1984-shazam-live-blog-comic-con/

dublinman1990 · 21-07-2018 4:31pm

SDCC are handing these posters out to the fans when the DC panel starts today. What a poster. It looks beautiful.

IncognitoMan · 21-07-2018 4:39pm

I suppose it's just the current trend but it looks very Marvel like to me. Would have like to have seen something a little more unique, but still a good poster.

Agent Coulson · 21-07-2018 4:41pm

Looks very Marvel to me as well.

Slydice · 21-07-2018 4:44pm

From seeing Grace compare it to Aquaman comics, it seems like it's very close to its source material.

IncognitoMan · 21-07-2018 5:08pm

There were some really nice BvS fan made posters that were absolutely beautiful. So when I see those I just think I'd rather see something unique like that rather than the standard movie poster like above, but still not a bad poster just kinda samey.

A few of the BvS fan posters that I liked :

batman_v_superman__dawn_of_justice_variant_poster_by_le0arts-d9spajq.jpg

batman_vs_superman_minimal_poster_by_kartheekmummaneni-d8qmobp.jpg

HandsomeBob · 21-07-2018 5:14pm

I love The very alien inspired poster.

Slydice · 21-07-2018 5:18pm

Heh, just checked, BossLogic has been at work:
https://twitter.com/Bosslogic/status/1019074627815948288
https://twitter.com/Bosslogic/status/1019429757706907648

dublinman1990 · 21-07-2018 6:45pm

The WB presentation began 10 minutes late at SDCC.

Aisha Jones is the host for today.

Fantastic Beasts stuff will come up first. Eddie Redmayne is there to promote stuff for it.

The DC stuff will be kept to later.

dublinman1990 · 21-07-2018 7:39pm

The cast of WW84 have just appeared on stage with Patty Jenkins.

https://twitter.com/shawnxmadden/status/1020738737834037248/photo/1

Slydice · 21-07-2018 7:58pm

Shazam! comic con trailer

Lithium93_ · 21-07-2018 8:02pm

Slydice wrote: »

Shazam! comic con trailer

I wanna believe this could be good, but after the Suicide Squad trailers, I'm keeping my hopes low...

Slydice · 21-07-2018 8:03pm

It looks fun

Agent Coulson · 21-07-2018 8:03pm

Ye..No I won't be going to see it from that trailer anyway.

Lithium93_ · 21-07-2018 8:13pm

Slydice wrote: »

It looks fun

Colorful even, and not the usual weighed down by dark & gritty...

dublinman1990 · 21-07-2018 8:15pm

Good trailer for Shazam. It looks like good fun.

David Sanberg said on Twitter that over 100 actors were auditioned to play Shazam.

Aquaman has just appeared on stage now at Comic Con.

Slydice · 21-07-2018 8:24pm

Aquaman comic con trailer:

Slydice · 21-07-2018 8:30pm

Combined, I think the two trailers give a feel to the course correction that Walter Hamada is charting for the DCEU.

Less serious/dark than MoS/BvS but not daft like JL.

Lithium93_ · 21-07-2018 8:33pm

Now to sit and wait for the Wonder Woman & DCTV (separate universes I know) stuff to be released..

IncognitoMan · 21-07-2018 8:34pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I wanna believe this could be good, but after the Suicide Squad trailers, I'm keeping my hopes low...

To be fair, a lot has changed since then. Shazam looks good, still think it should be John Cena though :pac:

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