The Saddos of Stormfront

Renegade Mechanic · 08-06-2016 11:15AM

rsh118 wrote: »

-Surfing Twitter
-ooo found an ill-founded and lightly racist opinion
-wonder what else they post
-*click*
-Profile- IM A PROUD CIS WHITE MALE
-*cue uncontrollable laughter*

The men's rights geezers are cut from the same heavy cloth.

Morons used to be too dumb to find other tools to share their simplicity with. Now the Internet is here they can link up with every other idiot who agrees with them and live together in an echo chamber forever.

Er.. I mean yer right and all, but that particular sword you're wielding cuts both ways, imo.

Samaris · 08-06-2016 11:49AM

Mark Tapley wrote: »

Utter tripe . Consistent at least.

His phrasing was a bit awkward, but I do understand what he means and agree to some extent. It doesn't apply to everyone, or at the least, it applies more to some than to others.

Personally, I -would- tend to be attracted to males of my own race. I think the reason for that lies a good deal in that I am very poor at identifying faces. I rely very much on the superficial details "blonde hair, blue eyes, cheekbones right, that's X" or occassionally "************ I've been introduced to this person at least twice and I still don't know if it's X or Y, please give me a hint while I chatter brightly and pretend it's not a 50:50".* I grew up around predominantly Caucasian people and so I'm a bit better at them than I am with Asians or black people. Indians for some reason I can generally cope with, although I still get confused.

Anyway, this is all leading around to that while I'm hemming and hawing as to who the person is, I'm also not good at recognising expressions too well. I simply cannot read black or Asian faces that well unless it's blindingly obvious that they're smiling or frowning. That creates a barrier. It's not so much the skin colour, it's the facial features that I can't understand.

Also, if it's embarrassing to have to ask a white person who they are after being introduced to them several times, it's even more embarrassing to have the "what, can't you tell us apart?" reaction from asking a black person. Both come across as rude when I just can't help it.

No, I'm not autistic, btw, nor do I have facial aphasia (?), just I'm ridiculously poor at it. I am mildly dyscalculaic, so I don't know if that factors in.

*Two women share the reception role where I work and although I'm -sure- they don't really look alike, after several months, I am still absolutely floundering if I have to refer to one of them by name and hoping desperately that I don't have the wrong one.

osarusan · 08-06-2016 11:57AM

poa wrote: »

In every man or woman, this preference ranges along the spectrum from attraction to their own race to wanting to kill outside their own race.
Believe it or not, it's a primal desire.

We have a primal desire to kill people of other races?

What the f**k is wrong with you?

Samaris · 08-06-2016 12:03PM

osarusan wrote: »

We have a primal desire to kill people of other races?

What the f**k is wrong with you?

No, he said that there is a spectrum ranging from attraction to a wish to kill (or get rid of in some way) people who aren't of "our tribe". We -are- a tribal culture, some more so than others! There are indeed nutters on the extreme ends that might want to kill people for being black or Asian or whatever. It's rare, but they do exist. There are also people who are sexually attracted only to people of a different race. Again, rare, but it happens.

The tribal aspects to us, or the pack mentality perhaps, is what leads to xenophobia, to "othering", us and them. Wars happen because we can compartamentalise "people like us" with "people like them" and equate "people like them" with lesser creatures, or even people that don't deserve to exist. Of course it's wrong, but it does exist.

The Backwards Man · 08-06-2016 12:05PM

As my oul Granda used to say, what do you expect from a bullock but a kick?

darkpagandeath · 08-06-2016 12:06PM

I like playing the game of trying to guess if the post is a stormfront one or a SJW one it's quite fun. You know on random forums.

The Backwards Man · 08-06-2016 12:06PM

Samaris wrote: »

No, he said that there is a spectrum ranging from attraction to a wish to kill (or get rid of in some way) people who aren't of "our tribe". We -are- a tribal culture, some more so than others! There are indeed nutters on the extreme ends that might want to kill people for being black or Asian or whatever. It's rare, but they do exist. There are also people who are sexually attracted only to people of a different race. Again, rare, but it happens.

The tribal aspects to us, or the pack mentality perhaps, is what leads to xenophobia, to "othering", us and them. Wars happen because we can compartamentalise "people like us" with "people like them" and equate "people like them" with lesser creatures, or even people that don't deserve to exist. Of course it's wrong, but it does exist.

I think you're giving the ramblings of our esteemed friend more credit than they deserve.

HensVassal · 08-06-2016 01:15PM

arayess wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure.....if you recall the excellent documentary MacIntrye did on jophnny adair , you will recall his nazi pal Nick used to have a favourite hooker / girlfriend who was thai.
wonders never cease

I've even flagged started the clip at her introduction for you.

https://youtu.be/17UvHjITeJQ?t=28m48s

if you haven't seen this - one of the weirdest things .

There was a rumour that Adair was queer.
Also did you see that episode of Louis Theroux where he talks to prisoners in the US. Some of these guys were in for life, etc. One was one of these Aryan Nations guys all covered in tattoos, etc. Once he was imprisoned he fell in love with another bloke.

wakka12 · 08-06-2016 01:19PM

Samaris wrote: »

His phrasing was a bit awkward, but I do understand what he means and agree to some extent. It doesn't apply to everyone, or at the least, it applies more to some than to others.

Personally, I -would- tend to be attracted to males of my own race. I think the reason for that lies a good deal in that I am very poor at identifying faces. I rely very much on the superficial details "blonde hair, blue eyes, cheekbones right, that's X" or occassionally "************ I've been introduced to this person at least twice and I still don't know if it's X or Y, please give me a hint while I chatter brightly and pretend it's not a 50:50".* I grew up around predominantly Caucasian people and so I'm a bit better at them than I am with Asians or black people. Indians for some reason I can generally cope with, although I still get confused.

Anyway, this is all leading around to that while I'm hemming and hawing as to who the person is, I'm also not good at recognising expressions too well. I simply cannot read black or Asian faces that well unless it's blindingly obvious that they're smiling or frowning. That creates a barrier. It's not so much the skin colour, it's the facial features that I can't understand.

Also, if it's embarrassing to have to ask a white person who they are after being introduced to them several times, it's even more embarrassing to have the "what, can't you tell us apart?" reaction from asking a black person. Both come across as rude when I just can't help it.

No, I'm not autistic, btw, nor do I have facial aphasia (?), just I'm ridiculously poor at it. I am mildly dyscalculaic, so I don't know if that factors in.

*Two women share the reception role where I work and although I'm -sure- they don't really look alike, after several months, I am still absolutely floundering if I have to refer to one of them by name and hoping desperately that I don't have the wrong one.

You can read indian faces better because they are also caucasian like european people, they just have darker skin due to closer proximity to the equator. I too find black and asian faces harder to identify and harder to read emotions on, I don't think theres anything racist to it. I never put much thought into it ,it just is what it is

poa · 08-06-2016 01:20PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I think you're giving the ramblings of our esteemed friend more credit than they deserve.

No, he is intelligent enough to grasp the concept. You on the other hand, are not. However, it's not all bad news for your type; ignorance is bliss as they say.

banned

HensVassal · 08-06-2016 01:24PM

poa wrote: »

The first thing you need to do when quoting someone is be accurate.
7.4 billion.

The second thing is not to call someone an idiot for having an opinion.

Thirdly I will answer your question; I have met African girls, and I have disliked every single one of them. My preference is for white Irish girls, and that is that.
This is no different to a gay man liking gay men, and not straight women etc.
Personal preference. The point I was making, was that this isn't racism; it's human nature; natural selection which is biological. We have a natural urge to reproduce with our own type, and therefore are attracted to the same.

This biological urge that you seem so knowledgeable about seems to evaporate when people emigrate then because most of the Irish guys I know who moved to the US ended up marrying American women and a sizeable proportion of those women seemed to be of Italian extraction.

poa · 08-06-2016 01:26PM

HensVassal wrote: »

There was a rumour that Adair was queer.
Also did you see that episode of Louis Theroux where he talks to prisoners in the US. Some of these guys were in for life, etc. One was one of these Aryan Nations guys all covered in tattoos, etc. Once he was imprisoned he fell in love with another bloke.

I don't believe Adair was queer. But he did get off sexually on ordering murders; as one of his previous partners has confirmed. He also had a thing for Catholic girls ironically, and had a secret Catholic partner. I suppose it was the ultimate taboo for him. Rather like a Nazi impregnating a black woman. His mate Nick did that and married one in order to smuggle gold though; as she couldn't be x-rayed at airports while pregnant. In my experience, the more racist or homophobic someone is; the truth is they are secretly the opposite.

beach_walker · 08-06-2016 01:36PM

arayess wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure.....if you recall the excellent documentary MacIntrye did on jophnny adair , you will recall his nazi pal Nick used to have a favourite hooker / girlfriend who was thai.
wonders never cease

Nazi Nick marries a black girl in that doc. Fantastic stuff.

On topic, judging people by their race is pretty stupid.

Superhorse · 08-06-2016 02:17PM

Is Enda a member?

topper75 · 08-06-2016 02:25PM

Mods the bike forum.

does a good job mind - no personal insults tolerated

goose2005 · 08-06-2016 03:43PM

Den14 wrote: »

It's late and I'm up feeding our 6mo and I honestly thought that read "Stormont" for a moment or two!

They're totally different. Stormfront is full of petty, small-minded bigots obsessed over irrelevancies and think that they're the most oppressed people on earth, while Stormont ... ... more drink!

arayess · 08-06-2016 07:03PM

wakka12 wrote: »

People can be racist and still be attracted to other races
Same way mysoginists surely sleep with women

that was my point

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