SuperValu Worker Dismissed for Eating food from the bin

sozbox · 01-06-2016 06:44PM #1

Similar to the SuperMacs thread, here's another example of ****ty management
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime...izza-1.2668978

What is it with service jobs and miserable management?

Temptamperu · 01-06-2016 06:47PM

If you have to ask that you never worked in the service industry.

Ruu · 01-06-2016 06:48PM

This isn't surprising.

Alf Stewart. · 01-06-2016 06:49PM

Thats why Poor Oscar only had a job as a groutch.

namloc1980 · 01-06-2016 06:52PM

Musgraves won't be happy with that publicity. They take their public image very seriously.

the groutch · 01-06-2016 07:18PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Thats why Poor Oscar only had a job as a groutch.

being a groutch is a perfectly good job, thank you very much.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 01-06-2016 07:22PM

Jesus, its terrible that anyone would be eating from a bin in this day and age. Im shocked employers wouldn't take that a bit more seriously. If any of the girls that worked with me was short on cash, or hungry, you'd make sure they were at least fed.

sozbox · 01-06-2016 07:23PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Jesus, its terrible that anyone would be eating from a bin in this day and age. Im shocked employers wouldn't take that a bit more seriously. If any of the girls that worked with me was short on cash, or hungry, you'd make sure they were at least fed.

He forgot his wallet apparently, You'd think a co-worker or decent boss would sort him out with a sandwich ffs.

Dinny Byrne has Angina · 01-06-2016 07:26PM

If nothing else, this only confirms the level of idiocy that exists in retail middle-management.

What kind of rambling idiot fires the hungry bin-eater, and then allows such a case to proceed to litigation?

Do you have to be intellectually below-par to work as a manager in Super Valu?

keno-daytrader · 01-06-2016 07:27PM

Have a f....**ing heart SuperValu!

Vile excuse for management and decency in general.

Can only hope that Karma exists.

Bunny Colvin · 01-06-2016 07:27PM

Where are these people coming from? No way to run a business or treat staff. It's amazing how many people in management lack the slightest bit of common sense.

Iwasfrozen · 01-06-2016 07:28PM

Why would anyone cook a pizza they got out of a bin? If I forgot my wallet I'd do without lunch. I certainly wouldn't take anything out of a bin.

sozbox · 01-06-2016 07:30PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Why would anyone cook a pizza they got out of a bin? If I forgot my wallet I'd do without lunch. I certainly wouldn't take anything out of a bin.

That's a different issue though, the issue here is whether or not you'd fire a fella for it

Iwasfrozen · 01-06-2016 07:31PM

sozbox wrote: »

That's a different issue though, the issue here is whether or not you'd fire a fella for it

I thought we were in broad agreement that you shouldn't.

sozbox · 01-06-2016 07:32PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I thought we were in broad agreement that you shouldn't.

It was wrapped in plastic so he must have been starved! I'm still trying to figure out what rule he broke..

Iwasfrozen · 01-06-2016 07:35PM

sozbox wrote: »

It was wrapped in plastic so he must have been starved! I'm still trying to figure out what rule he broke..

Must have been but plastic or not, gross.

Armchair Andy · 01-06-2016 07:36PM

Did he pay for the tabasco sauce though?

unfortunately · 01-06-2016 07:43PM

We have all had experiences of managers and supervisors making terrible decisions and not having any sense or reason. It's the system, a hierarchy where they bow down to those above and feck those below them. I would love for there to be a move to workers management in our society, everyone in a store, or restaurant (like the Supermacs incident) or whatever working together co-operatively. When you have a person who is designated as the sole authority and the people below have no input or influence within their workplace then of course this nonsense happens. It's bound to happen whether it be a workplace, organisation or state.

People actually don't need management - they.re adults they know their duty, they know how to cope - usually people work fine until some manager enters who knows nothing about the front line service and makes rash decisions and ignores the input of those "lower" down the corporate structure.

Robsweezie · 01-06-2016 07:45PM

keno-daytrader wrote:

Can only hope that Karma exists.

Good food karma!

Sorry.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 01-06-2016 07:47PM

unfortunately wrote: »

People actually don't need management - they.re adults they know their duty, they know how to cope - usually people work fine until some manager enters who knows nothing about the front line service and makes rash decisions and ignores the input of those "lower" down the corporate structure.

Insert obligatory 'not sure if serious meme here.

pickarooney · 01-06-2016 07:48PM

It's written company policy that employees have to pay to eat trash?

Harry Palmr · 01-06-2016 07:49PM

The manager who was present on the day that Mr De Morais took the pizza from the “combi” was unavailable for the hearing

Hmmm, should have been forced to attend or the hearing delayed until he was available.

unfortunately · 01-06-2016 07:54PM

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Insert obligatory 'not sure if serious meme here.

If a supermarket store was a co-operative and all workers received a portion of the profits and their was some sort of constitution of rights and responsibilities I'm sure a group of adults could operate it efficiently. Each person knows their job and can make collective decisions.

When people get a wage no matter what how hard they work or how much the company profits; where they have no input on the decisions that affect them. When they have to follow the orders of some manager who pops there head round the door and barks a command then of course they don't give a feck and need to be managed in order to extract work. Managers are the enforcers of the terrible corporate culture.

Free people, freely interacting for their individual and collective benefit don't need to be managed.

elfy4eva · 01-06-2016 07:56PM

Mr De Morais took the pizza and brought it to the shop deli where he asked a colleague to cook it.

Speaking purely from a environmental health perspective, that's bang out of order.

Tommy Kelly · 01-06-2016 08:00PM

There's a big difference between a combi of which Mr Morais took the pizza from and a trash bin.

Combi's can or are used to cart out products onto the shop floor for shelf stacking etc.

elfy4eva · 01-06-2016 08:03PM

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

There's a big difference between a combi of which Mr Morais took the pizza from and a trash bin.

Combi's can or are used to cart out products onto the shop floor for shelf stacking etc.

Quite clearly says the combi had other waste products on it and that it was outside in the yard. In a Deli Cross contamination is the big no no. If an EHO had seen that it would be a serious issue for the store.

seamus · 01-06-2016 08:04PM

sozbox wrote: »

What is it with service jobs and miserable management?

Mid-level management who realise that their roles largely consist of having an inflated title but not actually doing anything of any importance.

At least the manager is involved in the higher up stuff, planning, procurement, etc. And the staff on the ground just do their jobs. You don't get to do anything that's really important and you think you're above the menial shop floor tasks that you were doing up till six months ago. The most important thing you do is give free stuff to an angry customer. Even then you have to check with your boss afterwards.

So you're in limbo. You don't even respect yourself.

Devoid of any real training or real world management experience they believe that micro-management and being known as an uncompromising boss is the way to make your mark.

Rothko · 01-06-2016 08:06PM

Robsweezie wrote: »

Good food karma!

Sorry.

Love a bit of chicken karma

meeeeh · 01-06-2016 08:06PM

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unfortunately wrote: »

If a supermarket store was a co-operative and all workers received a portion of the profits and their was some sort of constitution of rights and responsibilities I'm sure a group of adults could operate it efficiently. Each person knows their job and can make collective decisions.

When people get a wage no matter what how hard they work or how much the company profits; where they have no input on the decisions that affect them. When they have to follow the orders of some manager who pops there head round the door and barks a command then of course they don't give a feck and need to be managed in order to extract work. Managers are the enforcers of the terrible corporate culture.

Free people, freely interacting for their individual and collective benefit don't need to be managed.

Oh yes that's why communism was so successful. Btw what happens when losses need to be covered?

Anyway what moron would let an employee rummaging through trash for food? And what moron would fire them because they didn't pay for it? This case and yesterday's 2 Euro dismissal were probably supposed to set an example and all they managed is bad publicity for the company.

Dinny Byrne has Angina · 01-06-2016 08:06PM

elfy4eva wrote: »

In a Deli Cross contamination is the big no no. If an EHO had seen that it would be a serious issue for the store.

Well now they know, don't they. Lets see what action they take to correct this grave injustice against deli practices.

suicide_circus · 01-06-2016 08:14PM

Basically people with a few chromosomes missing who probably had a rough time in school and have absolutely no other job prospects often become managers in fast food places or shops. Not always but frequently.

SuperValu Worker Dismissed for Eating food from the bin

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