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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #4772
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Gardaí don't need political pressure to solve a murder, they need political support in the form of manpower and resources, and I reckon in this case they got it.

    That's not all they need, to be fair. They also need the co-operation from the judicial system which they seem to very rarely get in Ireland.

    If this saga ended with the entire Kinahan gang leadership in front of the central criminal court and walking away with a few years of a suspended sentence, it would only slightly surprise me. None of them should have been free to get involved in these killings to begin with.

    This sh!te will end when, and only when criminals don't get involved in tit for tat warfare because they're too terrified of the consequences in court if they get caught.


  • #4773
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    That's not all they need, to be fair. They also need the co-operation from the judicial system which they seem to very rarely get in Ireland.

    If this saga ended with the entire Kinahan gang leadership in front of the central criminal court and walking away with a few years of a suspended sentence, it would only slightly surprise me. None of them should have been free to get involved in these killings to begin with.

    This sh!te will end when, and only when criminals don't get involved in tit for tat warfare because they're too terrified of the consequences in court if they get caught.

    Agreed.
    There's no fear for criminals in this country.
    Going to prison is seen as a badge of honour.
    There's not enough prison places, which is why the judges don't sentence criminals to any decent time in prison.
    I have no doubt they have been told to give lenient sentences because the places are not there .

    We need to build more prisons & actually sentence criminals to proper jail time.
    With no TVs or PlayStations or Xbox in their cells.


  • #4774
    Bicky bicky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Bicky bicky


    Micheal o toole reporting that man for court in the morning on firearm charge in relation to Gareth Hutch murder.

    Weird!!


  • #4775
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    Bicky bicky wrote: »
    Micheal o toole reporting that man for court in the morning on firearm charge in relation to Gareth Hutch murder.

    Weird!!
    Yeah,it's the guy who handed himself in almost straight away afterwards. Bet he wishes he did a runner like the other guy now!


  • #4776
    Glen_Quagmire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    coniosumadre wrote:
    Yeah,it's the guy who handed himself in almost straight away afterwards. Bet he wishes he did a runner like the other guy now!


    Surely the charge is murder then?


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  • #4777
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    Glen_Quagmire wrote: »
    coniosumadre wrote:
    Yeah,it's the guy who handed himself in almost straight away afterwards. Bet he wishes he did a runner like the other guy now!


    Surely the charge is murder then?
    Doesn't sound like it. Firearm offences according to the independent.


  • #4778
    Bicky bicky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Bicky bicky


    Glen_Quagmire wrote: »
    Surely the charge is murder then?

    Could have supplied the gun or could be like ex sinner dude anything that sticks! Weird one alright.


  • #4779
    arayess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Doesn't sound like it. Firearm offences according to the independent.

    sunday world "crime desk"
    says murder..

    http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/breaking-29-year-old-man-charged-with-murder-of-gareth-hutch


    let the record state:
    Mothers don't know best.


  • #4780
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    Bicky bicky wrote: »
    Glen_Quagmire wrote: »
    Surely the charge is murder then?

    Could have supplied the gun or could be like ex sinner dude anything that sticks! Weird one alright.
    I'd say at this stage anybody who's in there the full seven days ain't going home without some charge stuck on them. Actually, not going home for the forseeable future because I doubt any of them will get bail.


  • #4781
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭flutered


    Uncle Ben wrote: »
    They didn't need the above mentioned support pre this weekend according to Noirin and Francis.

    Then again, there were no poor morale issues within the Force when Regina was talking to Sean O Rourke on Morning Ireland.

    By midday the bould Regina did concede on Newstalk however, that morale could be better.

    How could anyone have confidence in this farce?
    or regia either, then again she had a biisness which ended up burst, with a few folk getting their fingers burned


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  • #4782
    Glen_Quagmire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    So both shooters are on the run? That's not what I've been reading all week.


  • #4783
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    arayess wrote: »
    sunday world "crime desk"
    says murder..

    http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/breaking-29-year-old-man-charged-with-murder-of-gareth-hutch


    let the record state:
    Mothers don't know best.
    The headline does, the article says weapons charge


  • #4784
    arayess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    The headline does, the article says weapons charge

    ah sure...
    I only posted for the gag about his mother...


  • #4785
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    Glen_Quagmire wrote: »
    So both shooters are on the run? That's not what I've been reading all week.

    Is there another man being questioned ? Article says "One man is still being questioned in connecton with the killing."

    Thought it was 1 man and 2 women altogether, being questioned.


  • #4786
    Glen_Quagmire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    Peter Anthony wrote:
    Is there another man being questioned ? Article says "One man is still being questioned in connecton with the killing."

    Peter Anthony wrote:
    Thought it was 1 man and 2 women altogether, being questioned.

    According to the journal.ie, one woman and one man have been charged and another woman remains in custody with no charge


  • #4787
    Bicky bicky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Bicky bicky


    Glen_Quagmire wrote: »
    So both shooters are on the run? That's not what I've been reading all week.

    Suppose depends on writing style and snippets of accurate info what get me to believe some articles but there is alot of headline grabbing titles s**te out there.

    Mick the hack is on the ball most time's.

    When will gardai start moving on the crumlin crew all directed from that area.

    Any truth to a lady from crumlin crew calling all the shots in this feud?


  • #4788
    Bicky bicky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Bicky bicky


    Glen_Quagmire wrote: »
    According to the journal.ie, one woman and one man have been charged and another woman remains in custody with no charge[/quote

    Second woman suppose to be charged and for court tomorrow too withholding information I think.


  • #4789
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Not connected to the thread really, but if this woman is related, that family is a bit off to say the least of it. But so are they all really when you think about it.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/donna-hutch-woman-with-313-previous-convictions-tried-to-stab-garda-with-syringe-34761507.html

    Anyway, things are happening. All due I'd say to the man who handed himself in. Seems he is being brought before the courts tomorrow too now. I would have thought he would be State's witness or in protection or something. I wouldn't like to be him in Mountjoy/Wheatfield on remand.


  • #4790
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,125 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    arayess wrote: »
    sunday world "crime desk"
    says murder..

    http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/breaking-29-year-old-man-charged-with-murder-of-gareth-hutch


    let the record state:
    Mothers don't know best.

    Picture of victim in that article looks very different to previous published picture, to me anyway. Time difference maybe?

    Not your ornery onager



  • #4791
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    That's 3 of the murders where someone has been charged now.

    Gard's are making progress.


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  • #4792
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    It appears the so called "New INLA" are now on the Cartels side in the feud. Or to be more specific the side with the most cash.


  • #4793
    Aloneagain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭Aloneagain


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    It appears the so called "New INLA" are now on the Cartels side in the feud. Or to be more specific the side with the most cash.

    The `NW INLA` hitman / bombmaker has gone to ground... His FB fiends are still posting status updates..
    He was a worthless pawn, paid off and cut loose. A sptter in The Sunset for EC !
    The lad who handed himself in (**) has (unbeknowingly) implicated at least 7 individuals and this intel is invaluable...


  • #4794
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    Aloneagain wrote: »
    The `NW INLA` hitman / bombmaker has gone to ground... His FB fiends are still posting status updates..
    He was a worthless pawn, paid off and cut loose. A sptter in The Sunset for EC !
    The lad who handed himself in (**) has (unbeknowingly) implicated at least 7 individuals and this intel is invaluable...

    Was Cumberton arrested because of what the man in custody let loose. Because its a bit of a coincidence otherwise

    All the lads involved are well known and well known to each other aswell, drinking pals etc


  • #4795
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    Was Cumberton arrested because of what the man in custody let loose. Because its a bit of a coincidence otherwise

    All the lads involved are well known and well known to each other aswell, drinking pals etc

    It was my initial guess is he is going supergrass and will help solve a few of the murders with hes inside knowledge.


  • #4796
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    tomofson wrote: »
    It was my initial guess is he is going supergrass and will help solve a few of the murders with hes inside knowledge.

    Is he actually the 2nd shooter I wonder. Cos hes getting off lightly with a weapons charge if so. He is basically just a sidekick/associate of the INLA hitman


  • #4797
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Its funny how Cumberton appears in photos with the inla bomber suspected of the hutch murder,thats the link to the barr murder anyways.


  • #4798
    Aloneagain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭Aloneagain


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Its funny how Cumberton appears in photos with the inla bomber suspected of the hutch murder,thats the link to the barr murder anyways.

    I have`nt seen any of those photos, can you pm me a link GB please and thank you :)


  • #4799
    Bicky bicky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Bicky bicky


    Do the new inla Dublin answer to overlords in the north or are they just a criminal grouping?


  • #4800
    Aloneagain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭Aloneagain


    Bicky bicky wrote: »
    Do the new inla Dublin answer to overlords in the north or are they just a criminal grouping?

    Look at their structure Bicky and draw your own conclussions !


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  • #4801
    Aloneagain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭Aloneagain


    Bicky bicky wrote: »
    Do the new inla Dublin answer to overlords in the north or are they just a criminal grouping?

    Look at their structure Bicky and draw your own conclusions !


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