Xbox One General Discussion - Part 2 (Please Read 1st Post)

Snake Plisken · 28-05-2016 08:40PM

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

They'll be doing well to make an Xbox One revision quieter. I've never heard anything at all from it.

Smaller doesn't really appeal to me either. It would just sit in the same spot under the TV.

Yeah I think they got the current case size right,
It's whisper quite compared to my smaller cramped PS4!

29-05-2016 12:30AM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Yeah I think they got the current case size right,
It's whisper quite compared to my smaller cramped PS4!

MS learned a 1 billion dollar lesson from the 360, don't design the case 1st and parts to go in it second http://hothardware.com/news/xbox-360s-red-ring-of-death-1-billion-microsoft

wotzgoingon · 29-05-2016 01:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Yeah I think they got the current case size right,
It's whisper quite compared to my smaller cramped PS4!

MS learned a 1 billion dollar lesson from the 360, don't design the case 1st and parts to go in it second http://hothardware.com/news/xbox-360s-red-ring-of-death-1-billion-microsoft

Tbh the internals of the xbox one are in the exact same layout as the xbox 360 S. (The first slim revision)

um7y1h83ge06nx · 30-05-2016 12:31PM

I really couldn't be arsed upgrading my PS4 or Xbox One. I'm lucky that I could afford to but I don't feel I have gotten my money's worth from them yet.

My 360 was bought in Jan 2006 and is still working. Only stopped using it when I bought the PS4 on launch. That's nearly 8 years as my main console.

If the main advantage of these consoles is VR I'm not interested. it's really the first gen of VR (I know back in the 90's they tried a little but it wasn't really a gen). The first gen of any hardware imo is a gen for hardware and software people to find their feet with the technology, almost like an extended proof of concept.

If VR does take off then the PS5 or Xbox 2 (

) will be much more mature platforms for it, designed from the ground up with VR in mind.

FAILSAFE 00 · 30-05-2016 08:31PM

The 360 and PS3 were unique as a console gen. Almost 10 years long. Traditionally most console gens have been about 5 years.

CatInABox · 30-05-2016 08:57PM

The Plex app is getting a much needed update tomorrow, here's the change list:

NEW
Plex Home!

Music Lyrics!

Create and add to playlists.

Quality, audio track, and subtitle selection from preplay pages.

Play Show/Season starts from last watched/in progress item, with previous behaviour available via a separate Play All action.

Show Original quality resolution/bitrate in quality picker.

Updated player profile for wider range of direct play codec support, including HEVC/FLAC/ALAC/WAV.

Stepping through videos will now use chapter timestamps if they exist.

FIXES
Items not updating their watched status on certain pages.

Deleted items showing up on library pages.

Display specific error messages when available instead of the generic 'Server not found' message.

Item progress bar size improvements.

Stability fixes for Plex Companion.

Occasionally missing 'Play from beginning' action on partially watched items.

Don't allow the user to exit the app via Plex Companion controls.

Extras titles not appearing in certain circumstances.

Theme music not stopping in some rare instances.

Movie pages not correctly loading in some instances with certain Extras.

Thumbnails not showing up in some channels.

Unwatched indicators incorrectly showing up.

Some photo channels previously failed to load photos.

Paging sometimes not working correctly on episode pages.

Starting the app with no signed in Xbox profile, or signing out, could result in a non-responsive app.

Retry for new server from error page when current server becomes unavailable.

Other stability fixes and improvements.

Great that direct play is expanding, I'll have to look into plex home to see if it's worth setting up.

pcadhain · 30-05-2016 11:35PM

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

The 360 and PS3 were unique as a console gen. Almost 10 years long. Traditionally most console gens have been about 5 years.

Exactly. Consoles are now going the way of phones. Imagine having the same phone for almost 10 years. Bit of an extreme example, I know, but tradition means nothing when PC games are already years ahead before the launch of a new console. It's always going to be a game of catch up.

I'm personally looking forward to updating my consoles so that I can give my old one to my brother for online multiplayer. I wouldn't mind PC gaming on my TV in a simpler universal windows model even if the new powerful Xbox One is near €1000. I predict it'll be called the Xbox PC and the new slim console called X1.

Allyall · 30-05-2016 11:54PM

I'm not sure, but I remember PS3 and Xbox360 being released, or about to be, and they both said that they wouldn't release another console for x amount of years.
I think it may have been because they were under fire a little from parent groups and the EU. Prior to that they were coming out failry quickly.
2 - 3 years?
I'm not 100% but I vaguely remember something like that being said at the time.

Captain Chaos · 30-05-2016 11:59PM

It was Sony that came out and said it's consoles have a 10 year life span of being supported. The PS2 had about 6-7 years before the PS3 was released. The Xbox was late to that generation so it had a relatively short life with the 360 releasing well before the PS3.

The 360 was 8 before the One was released and the PS3 6-7 before the PS4 was released but there were still game for the old gen while the new consoles found their feet.

This time it will be different on PS4 at least as both the base console and the Neo can play the same games on the same disc, just one will take advantage of its power.

Oafley Jones · 01-06-2016 07:10PM

The financial crisis of 2007/8 on also massively extended the previous gens lifespan. There was a consensus from the companies that the global economy couldn't support the required rate of new hardware adoption.

01-06-2016 07:38PM

Anyone having issues with live?

MiskyBoyy · 01-06-2016 07:41PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Anyone having issues with live?

There's a service alert for "Purchase and Content Usage -
Buying items, redeeming codes, or downloading purchases"

http://support.xbox.com/en-IE/xbox-live-status

MiskyBoyy · 01-06-2016 07:42PM

Xbox Smartglass Beta app for Android got a big update today:

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01-06-2016 07:51PM

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

There's a service alert for "Purchase and Content Usage -
Buying items, redeeming codes, or downloading purchases"

http://support.xbox.com/en-IE/xbox-live-status

Yes, I'm raging. Just about to have a go at mods for Fallout

Rorok · 01-06-2016 09:23PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Yes, I'm raging. Just about to have a go at mods for Fallout

I tried to download Super Meat Boy and it just came up something like "Oops you weren't supposed to do that"

Spudman_20000 · 02-06-2016 03:55PM

pcadhain wrote: »

Exactly. Consoles are now going the way of phones. Imagine having the same phone for almost 10 years. Bit of an extreme example, I know, but tradition means nothing when PC games are already years ahead before the launch of a new console. It's always going to be a game of catch up.

I'm personally looking forward to updating my consoles so that I can give my old one to my brother for online multiplayer. I wouldn't mind PC gaming on my TV in a simpler universal windows model even if the new powerful Xbox One is near €1000. I predict it'll be called the Xbox PC and the new slim console called X1.

I've seen the phone/console comparison mentioned a couple of times now, and it is severly flawed. The consumer market for phones and games consoles are completely different. Almost everyone owns a phone, but the console market is significantly smaller.

In my opinion it would be crazy for the likes of Microsoft and Sony to start releasing new consoles every couple of years. A typical console launch consists of early adopters who purchase the console at launch, then people who wait a year or 2 before purchasing and then followed by people who purchase the console late into its lifespan.

If we started seeing new consoles every 2-3 years, a lot of people wouldn't purchase any console, as a newer version would always be right around the corner.

PC gaming technology has always been ahead and always will be, and it makes no sense for MS and Sony to try and keep pace with it.

MS and Sony touting new hardware seems to be strictly down to the emergence of VR, and I think its a flawed strategy they are pursuing with bringing out new consoles. They don't want to be left behind, but it remains to be seen if VR really takes off they way some people think it will.

You even have the CEO of Take-Two sounding unconvinced:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/vr-is-too-expensive-and-takes-up-too-much-room-tak/1100-6440381/

03-06-2016 12:24AM

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

MS and Sony touting new hardware seems to be strictly down to the emergence of VR, and I think its a flawed strategy they are pursuing with bringing out new consoles. They don't want to be left behind, but it remains to be seen if VR really takes off they way some people think it will./[/URL]

Not getting into the whole console angle but just on this part.

I would say there is at least 100% interest in VR in a certain form but that obviously isn't the current offering.

But VR that could say, let a person play an 11 a side football match in a massive arena would certainly be something I would love.

I guess that advanced VR is a bit off though, and the physical side needs to be a part of it too.
Some sort of treadmill that encompasses movement is also essential for that next level of interaction.

mossym · 03-06-2016 08:06AM

gilberto_eire wrote: »

I would say there is at least 100% interest in VR in a certain form but that obviously isn't the current offering.

.

so more than 100% of the people are interested in VR? (guessing you meant something else here

)

and i think the feedback on this thread would say very few are interested in VR. for me it's not the current offering, or any offering. you bring up the physical side, if i want to do physical stuf(and i do, a lot) it's not going to be in a room inside. there will be a few that appeal to, but i'd guess it will be very very little

Stone Deaf 4evr · 03-06-2016 09:09AM

I've no interest in VR, but a more powerful console

but more power? , Bring it on!

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Seeing the witcher 3 running at a high res and 60fps has me craving more.

03-06-2016 11:29AM

mossym wrote: »

so more than 100% of the people are interested in VR? (guessing you meant something else here )

and i think the feedback on this thread would say very few are interested in VR. for me it's not the current offering, or any offering. you bring up the physical side, if i want to do physical stuf(and i do, a lot) it's not going to be in a room inside. there will be a few that appeal to, but i'd guess it will be very very little

I meant every single person would be interested in VR in some shape or form.

Are you telling me if you could be offered a real FPS experience which involved movement etc or fighting a star wars battle that people have no interest?.

I can see why people have no interest in the current VR, what I meant was there's a level that would interest everyone as we all have dreams we'd love to experience.

Its easy to write it off now. If you google famous quotes on inventions its amazing how so many smart minds of their day and people in general who wrote products off that ended up being necessities.
Point in that is, its all just early days now, who knows what VR in 5years could be like.

pleasant Co. · 03-06-2016 12:14PM

gilberto_eire wrote: »

I meant every single person would be interested in VR in some shape or form.

Are you telling me if you could be offered a real FPS experience which involved movement etc or fighting a star wars battle that people have no interest?.

I can see why people have no interest in the current VR, what I meant was there's a level that would interest everyone as we all have dreams we'd love to experience.

Its easy to write it off now. If you google famous quotes on inventions its amazing how so many smart minds of their day and people in general who wrote products off that ended up being necessities.
Point in that is, its all just early days now, who knows what VR in 5years could be like.

That's a holodeck....what you're describing is star trek's holodeck

Max Mafioso · 03-06-2016 12:47PM

There was this VR machine in the arcade where Cineworld/Vue Cinema is, it had Rise of the Triads on it.
I played it a few times and it wasnt too bad.
Its hard to describe the machine but basically you stepped up into a little circle which was then closed off by a circular bar so you didnt fall out, the VR Headset was hung up above it, it was lowered onto your head and you were given a gun that was attached to it.
You could turn around in the machine and your character would do the same in the game but to move back and forward you had to use some buttons on the gun.
It wasnt difficult to control and it was enjoyable.

MiskyBoyy · 03-06-2016 01:03PM

Max Mafioso wrote: »

There was this VR machine in the arcade where Cineworld/Vue Cinema is, it had Rise of the Triads on it.
I played it a few times and it wasnt too bad.
Its hard to describe the machine but basically you stepped up into a little circle which was then closed off by a circular bar so you didnt fall out, the VR Headset was hung up above it, it was lowered onto your head and you were given a gun that was attached to it.
You could turn around in the machine and your character would do the same in the game but to move back and forward you had to use some buttons on the gun.
It wasnt difficult to control and it was enjoyable.

Something like this?

Max Mafioso · 03-06-2016 01:22PM

Yeah it was something like that but without the option of walking yourself, you could only turn your head

I would prefer something like this though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ANUIr50ts

MiskyBoyy · 03-06-2016 01:24PM

I'd fecking love to play games and exercise at the same time

mossym · 03-06-2016 02:19PM

gilberto_eire wrote: »

I meant every single person would be interested in VR in some shape or form.

Are you telling me if you could be offered a real FPS experience which involved movement etc or fighting a star wars battle that people have no interest?.

I can see why people have no interest in the current VR, what I meant was there's a level that would interest everyone as we all have dreams we'd love to experience.

Its easy to write it off now. If you google famous quotes on inventions its amazing how so many smart minds of their day and people in general who wrote products off that ended up being necessities.
Point in that is, its all just early days now, who knows what VR in 5years could be like.

my point is making claims like every single person make your argument just sound daft. not even 100% of gamers will care about it. could VR be great, yeah sure.will everyone like it/want it/use it? no.
and it's easy say everyone will use it, i heard the same about 3d tv when i was working in the tv electronics industry. look how that turned out, and it's pretty similar.

and my other point was that more than 100% of people isn't possible. 100% of the people is everybody, how do you get more?

Ctrl Alt Delete · 03-06-2016 04:34PM

mossym wrote: »

how do you get more?

OK so I'll try not to make this awkward. But when a mammy and a daddy love each other VERRRRYYY much, the lord god of RNG jeebus blesses them with a new tiny pair of hands to hold a controller.

mossym · 03-06-2016 04:38PM

Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »

OK so I'll try not to make this awkward. But when a mammy and a daddy love each other VERRRRYYY much, the lord god of RNG jeebus blesses them with a new tiny pair of hands to hold a controller.

this reminds me of that story that went around a few years ago about the iraq elections where suddam got 102% of the available vote.

CatInABox · 03-06-2016 04:50PM

Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »

mossym wrote: »

how do you get more?

OK so I'll try not to make this awkward. But when a mammy and a daddy love each other VERRRRYYY much, the lord god of RNG jeebus blesses them with a new tiny pair of hands to hold a controller.

To which he'll inevitable say that the new tiny pair of hands becomes part of the 100%, thus making it all very samey.

Man, arguments on boards have gone downhill recently.

In my view, VR and AR are massively interesting, but I'm not sure I'll be interested in the types of games that come out as a requirement. Third person games, and indeed, first person games without a reference point in the view are meant to be severely disorientating, as your mind believes that you should be moving when you aren't. That's meant that the first generation of games built for VR are ones where you are only moving slightly, or in control of a vehicle that you can't leave.

I don't think that we'll ever see something like Halo on it, at least not until they can come up with a way to make the human mind not freak out all the time.

Playing games on a 50ft screen though? I'd be all over that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49nEC2U8n5M

GottaGetGatt · 03-06-2016 09:27PM

If I wanted to walk through a town, id do it in real life.VR my hole.

Xbox One General Discussion - Part 2 (Please Read 1st Post)

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