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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #4442
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Howjoe1 wrote: »
    8 years sentence given in 2009 and should be still behind bars, and therein lies part of the problem with Law & Order in this Country.

    no matter what sentence you get in this country 25 percent is automatically knocked off for remission so an 8 year sentence in reality is a 6 year sentence, then with good behavior and do a few courses inside you can get out even earlier


  • #4443
    Howjoe1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Whats being overlooked by the media is why the kinahans got an armed escort from the minute they stepped off the plane for Byrnes funeral,incredible really they had an armed motor cade from the airport to Hotel and protection while here,I doubt anyone on the opposite side of this fued has been given the same perks.

    I also thought that was very strange at the time.

    Walking through the Airport with bags full of cash for the Funeral extravaganza. No customs check, but carry an extra sleeve of cigarette through Customs and Bruce (Stop Serarch and Seize) will haul you aside.


  • #4444
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Howjoe1 wrote: »
    I also thought that was very strange at the time.

    Walking through the Airport with bags for cash for the Funeral extravaganza. No customs check, but carry an extra sleeve of cigarette through Customs and Bruce (Stop Serarch and Seize) will haul you aside.

    "Excoose me pleaz! Wer are you comin from?, "

    He's a gas man.


  • #4445
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »
    You forgot about there being "anudder angle in hevean".

    Whats with the condescending attitude?


  • #4446
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    the hutches are just a large inner city family they would have a small few major criminals with the monk gary was one but hes dead delboy could be classed as one and maybe patrick, a lot of them would be addicts who commit petty crime and then there is a large bunch of decent ones but most of them have a price on their head now, the main players in the feud wouldnt even be hutches they would be just friends of the major criminals with hutch surnames


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  • #4447
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    Most people never put themselves in those situations , so your argument is about as strong as your street gossip stories!


    It's Friday. Don't be such a crankypants.


  • #4448
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    humberklog wrote: »
    It's Friday. Don't be such a crankypants.

    It's actually slow down day!
    Never seen so much Garda presence before, like on the roads today.


  • #4449
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    yep

    They are all fairly close to each other.
    The north inner city is getting a real hammering lately with all these criminals.
    Honest , innocent people in the area must feel doomed!


  • #4450
    Supernintento Chalmers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Supernintento Chalmers


    humberklog wrote: »
    They should arm that Canadian ambassador to the teeth and stick him on patrol around the north city. Eh?

    No, this is who we need to sort this mess out.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/JYI4xbkOxfShO/giphy.gif


  • #4451
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »
    No, this is who we need to sort this mess out.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/JYI4xbkOxfShO/giphy.gif

    That was a great scene!


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  • #4452
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    They are all fairly close to each other.
    The north inner city is getting a real hammering lately with all these criminals.
    Honest , innocent people in the area must feel doomed!

    Apparently the hutch side was shocked this guy did the hit as in their heads the argument wasnt all that big and could of been easily sorted. The other man that did the hits mother is a family friend to the hutch women and she convinced her son to hand himself in to the gardai as she knew he would be killed. But yea the north inner city is getting a bad hammering the cartels money is turning neighbours on one another the innocent people in the area are afraid to leave their homes id imagine not a place you would want your kids going out to play in at the minute


  • #4453
    [Deleted User]
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    gangstergossip wrote: »
    Apparently the hutch side was shocked this guy did the hit as in their heads the argument wasnt all that big and could of been easily sorted. The other man that did the hits mother is a family friend to the hutch women and she convinced her son to hand himself in to the gardai as she knew he would be killed. But yea the north inner city is getting a bad hammering the cartels money is turning neighbours on one another the innocent people in the area are afraid to leave their homes id imagine not a place you would want your kids going out to play in at the minute
    No I wouldn't!
    So it wasn't even a big feud?
    That makes me feel a bit more sympathetic to the murdered Gareth Hutch, already felt sympathy for his child!


  • #4454
    [Deleted User]
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    tomofson wrote: »
    They are in hiding and haven't been seen around the Ballymun area in nearly 3 years, I know the fella who ordered it was mad mickey he was killed and dumped in tallaght, I know hes killer was northern Irish and a rogue republican I wonder if it could be Flatcap? Who was killed for sourcing the getaway car? I never heard of anyone being killed for that. I assume the gunman in jail on drugs charges is the clondalkin based nelly.
    I read nelly is responsible for a lot of murders!


  • #4455
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    tomofson wrote: »
    They are in hiding and haven't been seen around the Ballymun area in nearly 3 years, I know the fella who ordered it was mad mickey he was killed and dumped in tallaght, I know hes killer was northern Irish and a rogue republican I wonder if it could be Flatcap? Who was killed for sourcing the getaway car? I never heard of anyone being killed for that. I assume the gunman in jail on drugs charges is the clondalkin based nelly.


    yea mad mickey was the main fella involved in it. i heard there was an ex provo involved never heard much about him except he was meant to be from dundalk and flat cap is from strabane but you never know it could well be. john oregan was killed for sourcing the car some people say he was shot dead for damaging a criminals car but i believe myself it was for sourcing the getaway car. Them brothers could very well have been involved i just never heard anything about them but that doesnt mean they weren't involved. yea your assumption would be correct on the clondalkin based nelly wouldnt be the first hit hes done on a cartel member


  • #4456
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    yea mad mickey was the main fella involved in it. i heard there was an ex provo involved never heard much about him except he was meant to be from dundalk and flat cap is from strabane but you never know it could well be. john oregan was killed for sourcing the car some people say he was shot dead for damaging a criminals car but i believe myself it was for sourcing the getaway car. Them brothers could very well have been involved i just never heard anything about them but that doesnt mean they weren't involved. yea your assumption would be correct on the clondalkin based nelly wouldnt be the first hit hes done on a cartel member

    The other individual nelly done the hit on was more an associate of the cartel then an actual member. I'm surprised hes still alive people years ago where saying he was dead walking, id say if he was out now he would of definitely teamed up with the Hutches since hes a major enemy of the cartel. Those two brothers where involved but their parts where only minor I'd say they made a deal with the cartel to get out of the area and they would be left alone. O'regan was shot over a sexual allegation from hes past I dont think it was anything to do with that attempted hit. I wonder when nelly is out.


  • #4457
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    No I wouldn't!
    So it wasn't even a big feud?
    That makes me feel a bit more sympathetic to the murdered Gareth Hutch, already felt sympathy for his child!

    no it was just from an argument the night before arguments like that can happen in these areas a lot but are usually sorted out but i suspect the guy just took the opportunity to make some cash off it. The plan was made in a couple of hours to kill him and wasn't a pro hit at all the gardai have a strong case against them and there more than likely going to be offered a deal to rat on the cartel members that ordered it and the cartl know this to so the safest place for this guy still on the run would be in garda custody i suspect


  • #4458
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    no it was just from an argument the night before arguments like that can happen in these areas a lot but are usually sorted out but i suspect the guy just took the opportunity to make some cash off it. The plan was made in a couple of hours to kill him and wasn't a pro hit at all the gardai have a strong case against them and there more than likely going to be offered a deal to rat on the cartel members that ordered it and the cartl know this to so the safest place for this guy still on the run would be in garda custody i suspect


    Problem being,the lads in charge fingerprints will be no where near it even if they did give the go ahead,not a prayer of catching them for anything,will never be within miles of their own shipments either when you have that money its easy to keep a clean record.


  • #4459
    genericguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    That's true!
    It seems to suggest that the guards fear the family are more of a threat to law and order at this moment in time, possibly because of disso involvement.

    I think it's because the gardai can buy nicer things with kinahan money than hutch money


  • #4460
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    tomofson wrote: »
    The other individual nelly done the hit on was more an associate of the cartel then an actual member. I'm surprised hes still alive people years ago where saying he was dead walking, id say if he was out now he would of definitely teamed up with the Hutches since hes a major enemy of the cartel. Those two brothers where involved but their parts where only minor I'd say they made a deal with the cartel to get out of the area and they would be left alone. O'regan was shot over a sexual allegation from hes past I dont think it was anything to do with that attempted hit. I wonder when nelly is out.

    well there was two other hits connected to the cartel one survived one didnt, the one that didnt was a childhood friend of daniel kinahan and one of his main money launderers at the time apparently there was 100 grand put out on nelly after it. Yea id say he would be teaming up with them if he was out as the cartel want him dead so bad maybe hes friendly with them inside as it wouldnt be to safe for him in there either. I never heard about that sexual allegation before but people have been killed over them before. Dont have a clue when hes out but dont think its a major charge hes in on


  • #4461
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    genericguy wrote: »
    I think it's because the gardai can buy nicer things with kinahan money than hutch money

    I hope that isn't true.


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  • #4462
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Problem being,the lads in charge fingerprints will be no where near it even if they did give the go ahead,not a prayer of catching them for anything,will never be within miles of their own shipments either when you have that money its easy to keep a clean record.

    yea but the guys who are caught could turn state witness happened in dublin and limerick before


  • #4463
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    well there was two other hits connected to the cartel one survived one didnt, the one that didnt was a childhood friend of daniel kinahan and one of his main money launderers at the time apparently there was 100 grand put out on nelly after it. Yea id say he would be teaming up with them if he was out as the cartel want him dead so bad maybe hes friendly with them inside as it wouldnt be to safe for him in there either. I never heard about that sexual allegation before but people have been killed over them before. Dont have a clue when hes out but dont think its a major charge hes in on

    Hes been in there well over a year now so could be out anytime. Yes that was the story going around when o'regan was killed was that it was over a sexual allegation made against him. The individual who is in custody do you know hes name its not the same individual with the surname as the two brothers is it?


  • #4464
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,412 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    genericguy wrote: »
    I think it's because the gardai can buy nicer things with kinahan money than hutch money

    In fairness that's a real scumbag comment.
    They must have caught you for something.


  • #4465
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    I hope that isn't true.

    It was true when they wanted rid of the general, so.......


  • #4466
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    Be interesting to see if charges come here, theres alot of talk also saying he was not involved and thats why he handed himself in because he wanted to clear his name.I think the guy in custody may be innocent but the Guards are putting it out there on street and media he done it.

    Apparently his mothers house was raided and they were looking for him in connection with it. He handed himself in because he is denying involvement trying to clear his name. Why would someone who was involved hand themselves in, hours later? It doesnt make sense. Weeks, months or years later maybe but not that soon.


  • #4467
    arayess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    tomofson wrote: »
    I wonder when nelly is out.

    not yet anyway, his facebook is a tad barren these days.


  • #4468
    Bicky bicky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Bicky bicky


    Does Kinahans suppose new gang boss for north inner city still reside there I know he has a least 3 different addresses?


  • #4469
    [Deleted User]
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    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    Be interesting to see if charges come here, theres alot of talk also saying he was not involved and thats why he handed himself in because he wanted to clear his name.I think the guy in custody may be innocent but the Guards are putting it out there on street and media he done it.

    Apparently his mothers house was raided and they were looking for him in connection with it. He handed himself in because he is denying involvement trying to clear his name. Why would someone who was involved hand themselves in, hours later? It doesnt make sense. Weeks, months or years later maybe but not that soon.
    I believe that too.
    From what I read online the guy who some think handed himself in would be 30, but the guy who handed himself in was 29.
    Can't be same person.


  • #4470
    FixitFelix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭FixitFelix


    tayto lover wrote: »
    In fairness that's a real scumbag comment.
    They must have caught you for something.

    I think people are very naive when it comes to what Gardai are capable of


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  • #4471
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,864 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    I believe that too.
    From what I read online the guy who some think handed himself in would be 30, but the guy who handed himself in was 29.
    Can't be same person.

    Maybe he had his birthday in the mean time....


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