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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #4112
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    Strumms wrote: »
    Only this morning I stumbled on the identity of flatcap, his Facebook page and him grinning away there in the 'new hat he got for Christmas'. Quite surreal.
    Was it a Flat Cap lol


  • #4113
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,918 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    Was it a Flat Cap lol

    It sure was !


  • #4114
    eamonnq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    ciapen wrote: »
    Aquitted = Not guilty,

    So there wasn`t the evidence to say he was involved.

    There may not have been the evidence to convict him of an offence, but do you think he was 'involved' ?


  • #4115
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    just seen that twitter account is saying gareth hutch may have been killed by dissidents he fell out with who were friends with him and ross hutch that there was some sort of facebook fight the night before with threats and counter threats been made back and forth


  • #4116
    eamonnq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    just seen that twitter account is saying gareth hutch may have been killed by dissidents he fell out with who were friends with him and ross hutch that there was some sort of facebook fight the night before with threats and counter threats been made back and forth

    Which twitter account is that ?


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  • #4117
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    eamonnq wrote: »
    Which twitter account is that ?

    same fella on here who posted the dutch link the night before gareth hutch was killed


  • #4118
    refusetolose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    man in his 50's released without charge


  • #4119
    eamonnq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    same fella on here who posted the dutch link the night before gareth hutch was killed

    Thought that, but did not see it on that twitter account, (or maybe I have my posters mixed up.)


  • #4120
    septictank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭septictank


    refusetolose wrote: »
    man in his 50's released without charge

    It would be a good time for Patsy to visit the Ring of Kerry and not to hurry back.


  • #4121
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    He was acquitted of that.
    And of course there's no chance a guilty person would be acquitted in this country.


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  • #4122
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    ciapen wrote: »
    Aquitted = Not guilty,

    So there wasn`t the evidence to say he was involved.
    There is a dozen ways to be acquitted, one of which is not being able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. So even if the jury thought he did it, unless they were absolutely certain it was proved, he would be acquitted.

    Which does not mean you didn't do it.


  • #4123
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »
    There is a dozen ways to be acquitted, one of which is not being able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. So even if the jury thought he did it, unless they were absolutely certain it was proved, he would be acquitted.

    Which does not mean you didn't do it.



    You're digging a bigger hole for yourself here let it go.


  • #4124
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Coat22 wrote: »
    David Byrne hardly lived in Dalkey but did you see his funeral? Where they chose to live has nothing to do with how much they're worth.
    Huh - I thought those horses came to the funeral because they were neighbours.


  • #4125
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Gamebred wrote: »
    You're digging a bigger hole for yourself here let it go.
    What hole?

    The only hole is pretending that if someone is acquitted of something, they didn't do it. That's the thinking of a child.

    Example.


  • #4126
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »
    What hole?

    The only hole is pretending that if someone is acquitted of something, they didn't do it. That's the thinking of a child.



    Go out and get some fresh air you're getting very worked up about nothing here.


  • #4127
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Go out and get some fresh air you're getting very worked up about nothing here.
    Well if easily shooting down a silly argument is getting 'very worked up', there wouldn't be much discussion on Boards at all. I note that you have replied every time, so you must be equally worked up.


  • #4128
    Coat22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Gamebred wrote: »
    You're digging a bigger hole for yourself here let it go.

    Gareth Hutch was caught AT THE SCENE of the attempted robbery (well after a chase from the scene if you want to be precise). He was brought to court, charged, given bail and did a legger to the Dam.

    He somewhow was aquitted. Can't find anything on why that was but he was aquitted.

    I doubt even his uncle would try to claim he wasn't involved in that crime.


  • #4129
    eamonnq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    Especially when the original post only mentioned that he was 'involved'.

    having a part in something : included in something. : actively participating in something. Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary.


  • #4130
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Coat22 wrote: »
    He somewhow was aquitted. Can't find anything on why that was but he was aquitted.

    I doubt even his uncle would try to claim he wasn't involved in that crime.
    You have to wonder whether the claim that he was an informant was related to this too.


  • #4131
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Don't buy dissidents.

    They seem to be lying low with all the going ons.


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  • #4132
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »
    You have to wonder whether the claim that he was an informant was related to this too.

    it depends what he informed on because he did the robbery with family members and i cant see them killing him. I believe the twitter account that it may have been to do with this facebook row he would have been a target for the cartel but the killers were from the area and the house that was raided was only around the corner


  • #4133
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Coat22 wrote: »
    LOL LOL LOL - so you really think these guys have jobs and mortgages to pay? Really?
    Yes. I know a university graduate whose brother has been in prison various times for serious crime and the supply of drugs.

    The typical middle-aged man from a low socio-economic group in Ireland, e.g. Gerry Hutch, probably has about 100 close relatives, between his siblings, nieces, nephews, and cousins, most of whom have fully grown families.

    If you honestly think every single one of them is 'tainted by blood' to be layabouts and scumbags, you're talking rubbish.

    It's amazing to me how anybody can decry the lack of civilisation in these gangs' behaviour, whilst simultaneously prattling on with their distinctly uncivilized notion that the sins of one man are to be reproven by punishing his relatives.

    It's reminds me of the Old Testament. It doesn't belong in a civilized society, and actually implies some justification on behalf of the Kinehans.

    Yes, I do think that plenty of the extended family of Gerry Hutch have jobs and/or mortgages and/or kids in school, which they cannot leave, en masse, at the drop of a hat. Nor should they have to.


  • #4134
    Coat22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Coat22 wrote: »
    LOL LOL LOL - so you really think these guys have jobs and mortgages to pay? Really?
    Yes. I know a university graduate whose brother has been in prison various times for serious crime and the supply of drugs.

    The typical middle-aged man from a low socio-economic group in Ireland, e.g. Gerry Hutch, probably has about 100 close relatives, between his siblings, nieces, nephews, and cousins, most of whom have fully grown families.

    If you honestly think every single one of them is 'tainted by blood' to be layabouts and scumbags, you're talking rubbish.

    It's amazing to me how anybody can decry the lack of civilisation in these gangs' behaviour, whilst simultaneously prattling on with their distinctly uncivilized notion that the sins of one man are to be reproven by punishing his relatives.

    It's reminds me of the Old Testament. It doesn't belong in a civilized society, and actually implies some justification on behalf of the Kinehans.

    Yes, I do think that plenty of the extended family of Gerry Hutch have jobs and/or mortgages and/or kids in school, which they cannot leave, en masse, at the drop of a hat. Nor should they have to.

    Thats mad Ted

    There's some mad stuff on here - lots and lots of mad stuff - but this is one of the maddest


  • #4135
    Coat22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Coat22


    Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »
    You have to wonder whether the claim that he was an informant was related to this too.

    Its odd - you can find newspaper reports on his initial charge, his return to Ireland and remanding in custoday until Oct 8, 2014 and then nothing - next thing are references this year to him being aquitted but no court reports from the time.

    Its like it just "went away"


  • #4136
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Coat22 wrote: »
    Its odd - you can find newspaper reports on his initial charge, his return to Ireland and remanding in custoday until Oct 8, 2014 and then nothing - next thing are references this year to him being aquitted but no court reports from the time.

    Its like it just "went away"

    corrupt gardai corrupt media corrupt country we only hear what they want us to hear


  • #4137
    tomofson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Coat22 wrote: »
    Its odd - you can find newspaper reports on his initial charge, his return to Ireland and remanding in custoday until Oct 8, 2014 and then nothing - next thing are references this year to him being aquitted but no court reports from the time.

    Its like it just "went away"

    He obviously paid for it to go away, paid with information to the authorities.


  • #4138
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Coat22 wrote: »
    Thats mad Ted

    There's some mad stuff on here - lots and lots of mad stuff - but this is one of the maddest
    If you said the same thing about one of the central Kinehans, you might have some reason.

    But the Hutches are not a gang family on anywhere near that scale. There's no comparison. They don't run some big, international operation. By all media accounts, the Hutches are fairly insignificant.

    This is primarily a personal feud, not a competitive one.


  • #4139
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    corrupt gardai corrupt media corrupt country we only hear what they want us to hear
    I think the suggestion is that perhaps he agreed to work as an informant and the case was not pursued with much vigour, which wouldn't be an example of corruption I guess.


  • #4140
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FixitFelix wrote: »
    And also had houses in ranelagh and upmarket Cowper downs,collected his dole as a finger to the authorities than actual need, not all these lads are loaded

    So the victim of the latest shooting "needed" to move houses in the same complex, closer to his friends (protectors) to save himself and his family from a potential attack??
    Ends up then being murdered as if he hadn't a care in the world.
    Biggest load of ****e I've ever read.


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  • #4141
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    So the victim of the latest shooting "needed" to move houses in the same complex, closer to his friends (protectors) to save himself and his family from a potential attack??
    Biggest load of ****e I've ever read.


    His reason was no cctv looking onto his flat and ground level entrance from the rear.


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