N69/N22/N70 Tralee Bypass

MacLondon · 18-04-2016 3:24pm

Google Maps have finally updated satellite imagery, although Tralee town images have not (as yet) been updated. Most of the bypass is covered by the new imagery, but there's still the old imagery at Camp/Lidl end of bypass. It's possible that the updated satellite imagery covers well beyond Tralee, but I only scanned around the Tralee area.

I received an email today with notification of the new imagery so I assume it was added today, so possibly new imagery of Tralee town will be added shortly too.

amadain · 18-04-2016 5:25pm

https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.2827367,-9.6668865,1624m/data=!3m1!1e3

How do you see the NEW updated satellite imagery ?

MacLondon · 18-04-2016 5:54pm

Using the link you posted, if you look at the Ballinorig overpass, you should see the overpass is 'split' vertically by different satellite imagery. On the east side of the overpass is the new imagery, but the imagery on the west side must be from about 3 years ago.

Also, if you look at https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.253693,-9.6774492,105m/data=!3m1!1e3 just south of the Camp roundabout, you should see the Killarney road appear to vanish at its northern end.

If you can't see the new satellite imagery, maybe you'll need to force refresh the map (Ctrl + R).

amadain · 18-04-2016 7:13pm

Burger King and Subway are still in a green field

RevBlueJeans · 21-04-2016 10:23pm

The Geohive imagery is more recent showing the partially constructed road. http://map.geohive.ie/mobile.html Click the "digital globe" layer.

marno21 · 25-05-2016 1:05am

Has there ever been consideration given to opening an access from Manor West to the roundabout where the bypass meets the new Killarney Rd?

xxyyzz · 25-05-2016 8:14am

marno21 wrote: »

Has there ever been consideration given to opening an access from Manor West to the roundabout where the bypass meets the new Killarney Rd?

Afaik there are plans for this in the near future.

lottpaul · 25-05-2016 9:16am

marno21 wrote: »

Has there ever been consideration given to opening an access from Manor West to the roundabout where the bypass meets the new Killarney Rd?

I recall this being discussed recently -- on Radio Kerry I think - and got the impression also that it was definitely in the pipeline, and in the near future. A quick glance at a map would suggest that it was the original idea all along. It would give access to Manor for all bypass traffic but just wonder would it become a rat run for people going into Tralee itself, turning an already busy car park into a through road.

ongarboy · 25-05-2016 1:42pm

marno21 wrote: »

Has there ever been consideration given to opening an access from Manor West to the roundabout where the bypass meets the new Killarney Rd?

Yes, plans were submitted to Kerry Co Co late last year and the current status is Further Information required from the developers. Below is the link to the details surrounding the proposed development.

http://mapping.kerrycoco.ie/PlanningEnquiryLitev424/Default.aspx?FullFileNumber=19a-151173&FromList=true

ongarboy · 13-04-2017 2:10pm

ongarboy wrote: »

marno21 wrote: »

Has there ever been consideration given to opening an access from Manor West to the roundabout where the bypass meets the new Killarney Rd?

Yes, plans were submitted to Kerry Co Co late last year and the current status is Further Information required from the developers. Below is the link to the details surrounding the proposed development.

http://mapping.kerrycoco.ie/PlanningEnquiryLitev424/Default.aspx?FullFileNumber=19a-151173&FromList=true

An update on this. An Bord Pleanala have refused a link road between Manor West and the Tralee bypass. A bit disappointing I think, as this would have offered a great linkage to Manor and avoid congestion at the Rathass roundabout.

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/247425.htm

amadain · 13-04-2017 5:56pm

Access at the location proposed "does NOT PRESENTLY find support in the local development plan policy"

KCC planners get the finger out ffs in the next Kerry Area Plan (another few years away 2021)

Tippinkerry · 20-04-2017 10:18pm

Manor have been refused planning again???

Mrs Dempsey · 10-05-2017 11:13am

Be careful out there

Ciarrai76 · 10-05-2017 11:17am

Mrs Dempsey wrote: »

Be careful out there

I am sure that's been like that for ages! Why has it not been repaired!?

Mrs Dempsey · 10-05-2017 11:25am

I received the following: -

I acknowledge your email today and confirm that I did receive your email of the 18th April and I immediately put in train our repair procedure for both the Tralee Bypass and the Castleisland Bypass, where similar barriers have been damaged by reckless/speeding drivers. As explained to you previously, it is just not practical to repair each individual damaged barrier as and when it occurs. Both the cross-sectional design of the bypasses along with the requirements under chapter 8 Temporary Traffic Management leave us with no choice but to close the road while the repairs are being carried out. This has been organised for Castleisland for Thursday 11th May and traffic will be diverted through the town. The repairs to the Tralee Bypass however require the cooperation of the Traffic Corp to close off the particular section of Bypass affected. This is not the case in Castleisland given the road layout. The repairs to the damaged barrier in Tralee are provisionally scheduled for next week. I trust this is satisfactory.

Frankly it is not satisfactory

marno21 · 10-05-2017 1:47pm

Surely there's no issue as long as there's nothing in either of the live lanes?

Quackster · 10-05-2017 2:08pm

marno21 wrote: »

Surely there's no issue as long as there's nothing in either of the live lanes?

A type 2 DC isn't wide enough to safely maintain one lane in each direction open to traffic while working on the median.

Kevwoody · 10-05-2017 6:19pm

It all comes down to health and safety requirements. It's no fun working in the median of a dual carriageway with traffic whizzing past at 100km/h. And it seems the more warning signs are there, the faster people drive.

amadain · 03-04-2018 9:12pm

HAS there been a Independent 'Traffic Management Review' of the vehicles using this route, to ascertain if it's success/value for money/or failure.

amadain · 03-04-2018 9:13pm

I still believe the extension (to Leith beyond the I.T. roundabout) was unnecessary and the money could have been 'better' spent on these options:-
1. A link from the I.T. to the Ballybunion road/Bracker O'Regan/Fat mile ring road
2. An on-ramp link from Clash Ind. Est.
and/or
3. A 'upgraded link road' along Kearney's Road to Blennerville/Dingle (or further out, to Tonevane Cross from Farmers Bridge).

marno21 · 03-04-2018 9:21pm

amadain wrote: »

HAS there been a Independent 'Traffic Management Review' of the vehicles using this route, to ascertain if it's success/value for money/or failure.

No. There is no requirement for such a review to take place for schemes like this. Schemes are independently appraised and have their business case sent to DPER for approval before being sent to An Bord Pleanala for planning permission. Beyond that it's case closed.

amadain wrote: »

I still believe the extension (to Leith beyond the I.T. roundabout) was unnecessary and the money could have been 'better' spent on these options:-
1. A link from the I.T. to the Ballybunion road/Bracker O'Regan/Fat mile ring road
2. An on-ramp link from Clash Ind. Est.
and/or
3. A 'upgraded link road' along Kearney's Road to Blennerville/Dingle (or further out, to Tonevane Cross from Farmers Bridge).

The main reason the Tralee bypass was built as it was is because it's completely part of the national road network and was developed by the NRA. Not connecting it to the N69 would've reduced the benefits of the scheme.

1. This project, the Tralee Northern Relief Road, has been funded as part of the Capital Plan Review and will go to construction in the next 2-3 years.
2. I agree. The current quarter junction is bizarre. Even an entry ramp where traffic in the opposite direction could U turn at the next roundabout would be useful
3. A connection to the N86 would be useful alright, and the second part of your suggestion would take out the mess that is Tonevane Cross also. Another idea would've been directly connecting the N70 to the N22 near Farmers Bridge, bypassing the dodgy hairpin and narrow stretch of the N70 that also frequently floods in Winter. Going by Google Traffic a lot of vehicles seem to exit the N70 and travel down using local roads through Lisardboula and Farmers Bridge anyway.

Mrs Dempsey · 04-04-2018 10:09am

The median barrier is trashed again & again repair appears not to be a high priority. The Castleisland bypass barrier is damaged a 4 spots [cones @ one spot]. The armco barrier has dangerously exposed posts at Ballymackelligott & shortly after the Captain's Table heading West.

Kevwoody · 04-04-2018 11:13am

Unfortunately those 2+2 roads are not maintained under the MMaRC contracts as they are isolated stretches, so it seems TII wont repair damaged barriers as they happen, and let them build up to make it worthwhile for a contractor to be called out.
More often than not, the traffic management cost is far greater than the cost of the actual damage.

marno21 · 04-04-2018 2:59pm

Kevwoody wrote: »

Unfortunately those 2+2 roads are not maintained under the MMaRC contracts as they are isolated stretches, so it seems TII wont repair damaged barriers as they happen, and let them build up to make it worthwhile for a contractor to be called out.
More often than not, the traffic management cost is far greater than the cost of the actual damage.

In a related point to your first one, is it an Irish company that does the repair or a company contracted in from abroad? The amount of road in Ireland with this type of barrier is still very low, aside from the 2+1 stretches, we've only 5 schemes of 2+2 opened totalling 39km. There were plans in 2008 or so to have 4-500km open by now

Kevwoody · 04-04-2018 3:07pm

I've no idea Marno, I'd assume there are a few irish companies capable of repairing the wire. Motorway Care (formerly Holgate) and Guard Rail Ireland are 2 firms I've seen repair the steel crash barriers so i'd say they also install and repair the wire barriers.
Perhaps TII should look at setting up a maintenance contract similar to the delineation and signage program, to ensure all barriers are inspected and repaired regularly.

civil engineer kerry · 04-11-2019 7:14pm

HI there iam try view you picture of tralee bypass i cant look them as it says photobucket can you help. Thanks

carchaeologist · 31-01-2020 12:42am

civil engineer kerry wrote: »

HI there iam try view you picture of tralee bypass i cant look them as it says photobucket can you help. Thanks

Photobucket has gone to the dogs. It was working very well when I started out this thread.

amadain · 20-12-2021 12:23am

EXTENSION from Forge Cross roundabout over to Ballybunion road (and beyond to Bracker O'Regan Rd) is well underway.

ANY quacks or archaeologists following this new route with planning, aerial photos, maps, timeframe for completion, etc, (Great Thread btw).

TIA😉

N69/N22/N70 Tralee Bypass

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