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"Irish" woman who tried to travel to Syria jailed

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  • #32
    [Deleted User]
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    well no. britain is england, scotland and wales. that is why it is called the united kingdom of great britain AND northern ireland.

    You better tell the Brits that https://www.gov.uk/browse/citizenship/citizenship


  • #33
    NoCrackHaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭NoCrackHaving


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    well no. britain is england, scotland and wales. that is why it is called the united kingdom of great britain AND northern ireland.

    I'm not sure what your argument is here, - https://www.gov.uk/browse/citizenship/citizenship


  • #34
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    NoCrackHaving wrote: »
    I'm not sure what your argument is here, - https://www.gov.uk/browse/citizenship/citizenship

    British citizenship..............


  • #35
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    ShiddyArze wrote: »
    She was a Protestant before converting to Islam so I highly doubt she is an Irish citizen, in fact I'd bet my life on it

    Not sure, but heard she wanted to join ISIS as she was told it was sunni over there.


  • #36
    NewsMeQuick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭NewsMeQuick


    Yes it's true I think that they choose when to say Irish or British in the media for certain cases. But going back to the start, I must be confused about what's going on in the North or something. As a result of a referendum, the North is part of the UK, with the binding agreement of the Irish and British governments. So, that would be UK. I hear and see this all the time, "Irish" from the North. That doesn't make sense to me.

    It's the same with celebrities. All the time I hear about "Irish" celeb this or that. So you look into it and find out that either their parent's friend's cousin's pet penguin was Irish or they were from the North. This country makes desperate claims to nationhood sometimes.


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  • #37
    LDN_Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    "Those Protestants. Up to no good as usual."


  • #38
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,008 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    NiallBoo wrote: »
    You might as well describe her as European.

    When you say "Irish" it implies that they're an Irish citizen.

    "Northern Irish" would be the correct term.

    no, irish is the correct term

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #39
    ShiddyArze
    Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭ShiddyArze


    end of the road wrote:
    no, irish is the correct term


    If she didn't identify herself as Irish, or hold an Irish passport, then Irish is not the correct term.


  • #40
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    ShiddyArze wrote: »
    If she didn't identify herself as Irish, or hold an Irish passport, then Irish is not the correct term.

    What if she calls her airing cupboard a hotpress?


  • #41
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,008 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    ShiddyArze wrote: »
    If she didn't identify herself as Irish, or hold an Irish passport, then Irish is not the correct term.

    if she was born on the island of ireland she is irish

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • #42
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    end of the road wrote: »
    if she was born on the island of ireland she is irish

    That's politically inaccurate and in any case, not your decision to make when ti concerns other people.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #43
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Easy way to sort this out, did she support Celtic or Rangers?


  • #44
    ShiddyArze
    Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭ShiddyArze


    end of the road wrote:
    if she was born on the island of ireland she is irish


    Na, sorry. Plenty people born on this island that aren't Irish. This Island has two different countries on it. Wished up talking poo


  • #45
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    end of the road wrote: »
    if she was born on the island of ireland she is irish

    Not if they have a British passport. There is no NI/Scott/welsh or English passport they are all British citizens how hard is it to understand ? She would be Irish if she had an Irish passport. What next Europe is one big country ? As most of it is on the same landmass ???


  • #46
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Whether she is catholic or protestant or irish or british, anyone who wants to join up with ISIS knowing what they've done including mass murder and enslavement as well as how sh*t they treat their women, is not right in the head. I seriously don't see how anyone sane could travel to Syria at the moment and if they do they deserve everything that happens to them. The place is hell on earth.


  • #47
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    NoCrackHaving wrote: »
    I do find it quite interesting how 'western' converts to Islam are disproportionately female in very large numbers, curious as to how much research has been done into the particular reasons for it.

    A Muslim man can marry a non Muslim woman. A non Muslim man cannot marry a Muslim woman who's practicing the faith unless he himself converts beforehand.


  • #48
    looking_around
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    ShiddyArze wrote: »
    She was a Protestant before converting to Islam so I highly doubt she is an Irish citizen, in fact I'd bet my life on it

    She was northern irish. Entitle to both Irish (if born on the island of Ireland) and British citizenship. ..whatever her religion or way she labelled herself.

    Calling her Irish is equally correct as caling her British.


  • #49
    ShiddyArze
    Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭ShiddyArze


    looking_around wrote:
    Calling her Irish is equally correct as caling her British.


    No, its really not.


  • #50
    ShiddyArze
    Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭ShiddyArze


    Similar to calling a Ukrainian or Pole a Russian.. There still on the same land mass and use to be one. Times have changed


  • #51
    ShiddyArze
    Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭ShiddyArze


    Are all Mexicans or Canadians American? No.


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  • #52
    looking_around
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    ShiddyArze wrote: »
    Are all Mexicans or Canadians American? No.

    Born in northern Ireland gives her and anyone else there, the right to be both.
    To be most correct she's northen Irish.

    But whether people like it or not, both terms are politically correct.

    The entire island is called Ireland. .why are people so strung about this?


  • #53
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    ShiddyArze wrote: »
    Both.

    Many, many Brits or "UKers" have moved to Syria and Iraq to join Isis. I don't think any Irish have, at least not Irish Catholics. So the nationality and religious background is an important point.

    Em what's about yer irish man, whachacallim...emmm Paddy, no Seamus...no Ibrahim Halawa, didn't he head off somewhere foreign to fight for or against some regime? See, us Irish do head away off fighting in other countries.


  • #54
    moc moc a moc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    NewsMeQuick wrote: »
    I hear and see this all the time, "Irish" from the North.

    The North of what?


  • #55
    ShiddyArze
    Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭ShiddyArze


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote:
    Em what's about yer irish man, whachacallim...emmm Paddy, no Seamus...no Ibrahim Halawa, didn't he head off somewhere foreign to fight for or against some regime? See, us Irish do head away off fighting in other countries.


    He's as Irish as the queen will you stop


  • #56
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    beach_walker wrote: »
    Where do ISIS stand on the issue of partition?

    Where do they stand on the issue of cakes? And flegs?


  • #57
    Joe prim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Joe prim


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    So, is this thread about a woman potentially inducting her kids into terrorism, or the far more pressing issue of her nationality?

    Not at all, the most important question is whether she is an ex-Protestant Muslim Funda(mentalist) or an ex-Catholic Muslim Islamic extremist, in other words, which foot does she dig with ?(i.e. dig the graves of the Crusader pig-dog enemies of Allah and his Prophet Mohamed, after she has slaughtered them without mercy etc etc.)


  • #58
    Hans Bricks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    You'd have to wonder about the mindset of a westerner who is that dense to convert to such an archaic religion. Never mind embrace the extremist element of it. Can't blame posters wanting to disassociate her from sharing the same nationality.


  • #59
    511
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    People born in Northern Ireland have dual citizenship as per the Good Friday Agreement.


  • #60
    Mec27
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Mec27


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Not if they have a British passport. There is no NI/Scott/welsh or English passport they are all British citizens how hard is it to understand ? She would be Irish if she had an Irish passport. What next Europe is one big country ? As most of it is on the same landmass ???

    Well we are European citizens officially


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  • #61
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Mec27 wrote: »
    Well we are European citizens officially
    Yeah, but Europe isn't a state or a nation.

    Nationality exists whether a person has a passport or not. Where someone holds citizenship of multiple nations, they are considered citizens of all of those nations.

    In the case of Northern Ireland, people born there are automatically considered both British and Irish citizens. They do not have to fill out any forms or make any legal declarations to claim either of them. It's automatic.

    So to call them either "Irish" or "British" is entirely correct regardless of what passport(s) they hold.


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