Season 6 Episode 5 "The Door" - "Book readers"

bradolf pittler · 22-05-2016 09:36PM

1st time in a long while the show had me sitting up straight in my chair when watching it.
Poor Hodor.

Sleepy · 22-05-2016 09:38PM

That was EPIC! The simple stable boy gets the most heroic death of the series to date in a scene that must have been planned twenty years ago. Stunning ending to a pretty strong episode.

Mrs Sleepy balled her eyes out and is threatening violence should she ever meet George RR Martin.

There's surely only one way Bran and Meera can survive the journey back south now? We're going to see Benjen in the next few weeks!

stesaurus · 22-05-2016 09:43PM

Dragonglass tipped spear clearly, not sure why it's even a discussion. It didn't work for the children of the forest because she stabbed his boiled leather armour. You need to find flesh or have a lot of power behind it.
Summers death noises, my God I had to go hug my dogs after that. Horrible.
Hodor so bleeding obvious now, we're all idiots!!!

Falthyron · 22-05-2016 09:45PM

Sleepy wrote: »

There's surely only one way Bran and Meera can survive the journey back south now? We're going to see Benjen in the next few weeks!

I think you are right. Either Benjen comes out of somewhere to save them or will it be Coldhands?

amos13 · 22-05-2016 09:52PM

s.welstead wrote:

Dragonglass tipped spear clearly, not sure why it's even a discussion. It didn't work for the children of the forest because she stabbed his boiled leather armour. You need to find flesh or have a lot of power behind it. Summers death noises, my God I had to go hug my dogs after that. Horrible. Hodor so bleeding obvious now, we're all idiots!!!

Summer is gone. Winter is coming.

wyrn · 22-05-2016 09:55PM

amos13 wrote: »

Summer is gone. Winter is coming.

I thought the same in that episode. I also thought of Old Nan calling Bran "sweet summer child" and that maybe he will be the one to turn the North back into summer again. Have to say, having the origin story of the white walkers kinda annoyed me. I wish we didn't know and I really wish it wasn't because of the Children of the Forest.

Bowlardo · 22-05-2016 09:55PM

how have you all saw this episode already?
I thought it only aired at 2 irish time which is 9 eastern us time?

joe123 · 22-05-2016 09:56PM

Average aul episode. The origin of the White walkers gets 60 seconds for an explanation and the origin itself is all a bit meh.

The forest children were all fairly ****e at fighting. For ones who created the white walkers, surely they knew to be decked out with dragon glass. Why is anyone even discussing the mera killing one thing? Obvious it was a dragon glass spear.

Bran and Max von sidow just chillaxing in the court yard. Surely max should have been his usual "that's enough for now" thing with bran +100....no they continue to stand around doing nothing.

Meera and Bran escaping at the speed of a snail. No they won't be hard caught.....there better be an introduction of Coldhands or something to show their escape.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 22-05-2016 09:56PM

Bowlardo wrote: »

how have you all saw this episode already?
I thought it only aired at 2 irish time which is 9 eastern us time?

Was leaked online. Get it watched ASAP cause loads happens. Spoilers all over the place tomorrow I'd say.

Jijsaw · 22-05-2016 09:56PM

Bowlardo wrote: »

how have you all saw this episode already?
I thought it only aired at 2 irish time which is 9 eastern us time?

It was leaked early this morning. Easy enough to find online if you know where to look

amos13 · 22-05-2016 10:00PM

joe123 wrote:

Average aul episode. The origin of the White walkers gets 60 seconds for an explanation and the origin itself is all a bit meh.

Ah here there's no pleasing some people. That was an epic episode. Poke holes in it all you want but it was entirely entertaining/ heartbreaking. But there's always people who moan....

amos13 · 22-05-2016 10:02PM

wyrn wrote:

I thought the same in that episode. I also thought of Old Nan calling Bran "sweet summer child" and that maybe he will be the one to turn the North back into summer again. Have to say, having the origin story of the white walkers kinda annoyed me. I wish we didn't know and I really wish it wasn't because of the Children of the Forest.

Interesting! Just discussing here what else bran influenced. For example: once he knows all that goes down, towards the end, is he the one that goes back and promises the prince who will save them?

joe123 · 22-05-2016 10:03PM

amos13 wrote: »

Ah here there's no pleasing some people. That was an epic episode. Poke holes in it all you want but it was entirely entertaining/ heartbreaking. But there's always people who moan....

Lol chill out. You liked it, I didn't.

Care to actually add to the thread or just be a complete child and get annoyed someone doesn't have the same opinion as you

LionelNashe · 22-05-2016 10:09PM

Just rewatching it now, and I wonder why they had to show us the young actor examining his warty cock back-stage?

Mr Freeze · 22-05-2016 10:10PM

Good episode, wonder if all those reveals and deaths will happen in a similar fashion in the books.

While being entertaining plot wise, the production of that final 10 mins looked like one of the Narnia films. Those children of the forest look awful....

Falthyron · 22-05-2016 10:11PM

LionelNashe wrote: »

Just rewatching it now, and I wonder why they had to show us the young actor examining his warty cock back-stage?

Equality. We had boobs in the last episode now we need something male for 'balance'.

joe123 · 22-05-2016 10:17PM

What was the reason Sansa lied to Jon. At this stage wouldnt you think he'd be the number one person you would trust?

Sleepy · 22-05-2016 10:19PM

She knows he'd want to work with Littlefinger who she can't trust any more.

She's showing some wisdom actually, Jon is too like Ned, who died because he trusted Baelish.

joe123 · 22-05-2016 10:24PM

Sleepy wrote: »

She knows he'd want to work with Littlefinger who she can't trust any more.

She's showing some wisdom actually, Jon is too like Ned, who died because he trusted Baelish.

Would he though? Surely a few words from Sansa saying "he can't be trusted he handed me over to Ramsay" and maybe a bit of what he actually did to her would be enough to dissuade him from joining up with littlefinger?

bajer101 · 22-05-2016 10:34PM

amos13 · 22-05-2016 10:40PM

joe123 wrote:

Care to actually add to the thread or just be a complete child and get annoyed someone doesn't have the same opinion as you

My previous comment to you wasn't my only comment. Look back.

Anyways, my point is that there's always people who complain about each episode "was there accelerant on the floor?" "Convenient melisandre was there" "how did she not have brain damage from that many hits to the head" "they had Max 60 seconds to escape". Etc etc. It gets tiresome for those of us who want to discuss each episode on the developments and merits of the storyline within that episode rather than the fallacies or "believability" of each scene of a show which has a horde of ice zombies, reincarnation and dragons at the crux of its theme.

wp_rathead · 22-05-2016 10:43PM

I liked Euron in the books - but the whole Iron Born stuff just seemed all over the place in this episode..
I'm guessing Yara and Theon are heading to Meereen

Can give or take Ayra's storyline at the moment- i'm sure it is building somewhere but I'm not totally engrossed in it..

Really liked Sansa again in this episode, becoming one of my favorite characters

Loved how Vary's show's his hatred to Magic and that the Red Priest played up on it- should be fascinating how that storyline goes

I think I get what happened to Willis- Bran wragged into present day Hodor when in the past- which resulted in Willis hearing and experiencing his death and hearing Meera shout "Hold The Door" becoming "Hodor"..

Absolutely heartbreaking though, and poor auld Summer too

That leaves Ghost and a lost Nymeria of the Direwolf pups

amos13 · 22-05-2016 10:50PM

wp_rathead wrote:

I liked Euron in the books - but the whole Iron Born stuff just seemed all over the place in this episode.. I'm guessing Yara and Theon are heading to Meereen

Funny that, I prefer show iron islands to book iron islands. I found it very dragged out in the books, but interesting that Euron never mentioned the horn.

wp_rathead wrote:

Really liked Sansa again in this episode, becoming one of my favorite characters

Yes! The scene with LF, not giving him an inch, she has his cards marked now, and he couldn't smooth talk her. Others may say her character isn't progressing, I think her character has progressed the most. She's the only stark who has been adamant on finding a way back to winterfell. Come hell or high winter. There's nothing anyone can do to her she hasn't already been through.

amos13 · 22-05-2016 11:00PM

Final question of the night, now that bran is no longer with the three eyed Raven, will we get the rest of the tower of joy this season????

OhHiMark · 22-05-2016 11:06PM

amos13 wrote: »

but interesting that Euron never mentioned the horn.

Well he did talk about his cock.

joe123 · 22-05-2016 11:06PM

amos13 wrote: »

My previous comment to you wasn't my only comment. Look back.

Anyways, my point is that there's always people who complain about each episode "was there accelerant on the floor?" "Convenient melisandre was there" "how did she not have brain damage from that many hits to the head" "they had Max 60 seconds to escape". Etc etc. It gets tiresome for those of us who want to discuss each episode on the developments and merits of the storyline within that episode rather than the fallacies or "believability" of each scene of a show which has a horde of ice zombies, reincarnation and dragons at the crux of its theme.

Fair enough but to label someone's post as "oh some people ” just because they point out holes or disagree with an opinion is poor.

Anyways, just felt like there were a few too many holes/lazy writing in that. Really felt the white walker origin deserved more time and a better story/storytelling than what we got.

Bowlardo · 22-05-2016 11:24PM

****ing hell that was absolute horse ****

Washington Irving · 22-05-2016 11:56PM

Sleepy wrote: »

There's surely only one way Bran and Meera can survive the journey back south now? We're going to see Benjen in the next few weeks!

I would sacrifice a thousand Hodors to see Coldhands on that elk.

Would also settle for Benjen. The hype is real.

22-05-2016 11:59PM

The ironborn stuff was a bit silly. Not sure where they're going with it. It would take ages to build the ships that euron wants but I'd bet they'll be ready next episode. I was always under the impression that it was CPR used to revive drowned god pledges and not just hope they don't die? A lot of the dialogue felt forced and if all the main lords of the iron islands accepted Euron as it seemed then where did Theon and Yara get all the men for the ships? Not really standing up to much scrutiny really. Euron flatout admitting he is a kin and kingslayer is a bit odd as well as i can't see how that would gain the respect of the men. But sure it is what it is.

The wall scenes were good again though. Littlefinger and his teleportation device working well.

Washington Irving · 23-05-2016 12:14AM

amos13 wrote: »

This episode was by far the most compelling for me (in the absence of a major battle). Wow. Just wow. But I'm definitely thinking there's more to meera. No mention of dragonglass, so maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Maybe she's the third head of the dragon. Somehow, I hope so. What the children of the forest said to her about bran needing her sticks with me.

Nah, it's because Jojen is dead, Hodor is dead, Summer is dead, the Three Eyed Raven is dead, and the Children are dead. Bran wouldn't have gotten away without her.

He probably shouldn't be able to get away anyway unless someone/something shows up immediately.

Falthyron wrote: »

Equality. We had boobs in the last episode now we need something male for 'balance'.

If balance is a warty willy then I don't want it.

Season 6 Episode 5 "The Door" - "Book readers"

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