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The body coach 90 day sss

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,768 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    Macros and even calorie targets can be intimidating to people new to the whole fitness and dieting world who I'd imagine is the target market here.

    A lot of books do list calories of recipes in small print.

    He does give an overview of macros at the start and it's not bad - destigmatises fats and carbs at least - so I'd have thought it could have included the calorie content


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,768 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    Macros and even calorie targets can be intimidating to people new to the whole fitness and dieting world who I'd imagine is the target market here.

    A lot of books do list calories of recipes in small print.

    He does give an overview of macros at the start and it's not bad - destigmatises fats and carbs at least - so I'd have thought it could have included the calorie content


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    He does give an overview of macros at the start and it's not bad - destigmatises fats and carbs at least - so I'd have thought it could have included the calorie content

    Fair enough I haven't read it just making some broad assumptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭zzxx


    Anyone else find the portions massive in the book?. I easily get 2 meals out of his 'meals for one' recipes. Not that I mind because I like to keep leftovers, but could see how someone could be eating ALOT of calories thinking they're ok because they're following his recipes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭DANNY2014


    If any one is thinking of doin this do the free 14 day trial by email and on the 14th day you get a 20pound discount off the full price only not the direct debit works out about 26 euro. To do the full plan it will cost 170 euro instead of 195. Mite be worthwhile to some.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭paulers06


    How's the plan going for people? I have his book and have found it really good, particularly that a lot of the recipes can be prepared in advance and frozen. I run a lot so started eating 2 x carb reduced meals and 1 x carb rich meal (usually porridge in the morning) and have felt really good for it. I think I put that mainly down to eating a lot less carbs. I would have always had a pretty good diet but it definitely included a lot more carbs than I am eating now. I actually feel quite bloated and ill if I eat bread now. I wonder if that was just the norm for me before.

    Would be interested to hear how people are going with it? A bit tempted to get the 90 day plan but am marathon training and running 6 days at the moment so not sure I can (or more importantly, will have the motivation) to add HIIT and Gym sessions to the mix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭jinxremoving


    I wouldn't recommend it while marathon training, the weights and macros are calculated to following 5 hiit sessions only per week in cycle one. Cards limited to post work out. It is a great plan however, I am about 16 days in -10lbs and a good few inches already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭paulers06


    Yeah, I didn't think it would be suitable. Fair play, 10lbs is great. I'd say the inches lost over the 90 days is incredible. That's what drew me towards the plan, the high volume of toned bodies scattered all over his facebook everyday. Keep us posted on your progress!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭frankie2shoes


    I finished the 90 day plan about 3 weeks ago. My overall verdict? 7 out of 10!
    The plan is not that tailor made for you. Your height, age and weight and measurements are recorded and macros are then worked out. These figures are then pasted into a generic recipe and ingredients booklet, which is emailed to you. Your food preferences/allergies, medical conditions are not taken into account. I found it very restrictive. My life revolved around the plan not the other way round. Glad I did it as an experience and my results were pretty good. I lost 7kg and gained a lot of muscle definition, but it was a real struggle to keep to the plan with life, work, and family commitments. I would only recommend it to those without kids or with much older children, and those whose life is very structured. I travel a lot for work and my hours are all over the place, which made the plan tough to stick to.
    The facebook group is what got me thru, not the online coach. She was good, and always replied to my questions (usually after about 24hrs) and sent motivational mails, but I got the sense they were just copied and pasted with my name inserted. The unofficial facebook page, had recipe swap ideas, tips on workouts and a real sense that everyone was struggling but working hard and helping each other through it.
    And I swear if someone else tells me I'm "smashing it", I'll smash them!!!!
    I used it as a way to up my fitness levels ahead of marathon training, so I'm back pounding the pavement. I learnt a little about training nutrition, but nothing that the internet couldnt give me.
    So, if you're thinking of doing it, be prepared. Its not easy. Be prepared to cook more than you ever have before. Be prepared to eat seperately from your family. Be prepared to spend at least an extra 50 euro a week on food, and another 150 on supplements at the start. You can only do the workouts prescribed (HIIT and weight training). no running allowed unless its sprint HIITs.
    If all this doesnt worry you, then go for it! The workouts are good and in the first 2 cycles very quick. I loved them.
    It works, but like all things, it aint easy.......now go smash it like a boss!!!!!
    grrrrr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭brighterdays


    Started this week after months of following Joe and thinking he's found the secret to health! Gotta say a couple days in and I'm not sure it's for me.

    I'm a very open minded person and really wanted to go into this doing my best, but it's hard. The meal options (in cycle 1 at least) feel very "blah". I haven't had one meal yet that I have truly enjoyed from start to finish and that's a real worry. That I would have to do this for the next X amount of days with food that is only OK. The smoothie is OK, very bitty and requires 40g of almond paste and 80g of spinach. No sweetness except one apple. Not even a squirt of honey. It made 1.5 litres of the stuff for one serving and was difficult. Made me beyond bloated and sick feeling (which they do advise can happen, but flatulence at work isn't cute.) The protein pancakes taste very spongy, as there's no flour, just Whey and the only moisture is a banana. The mousse tasted horrible, but to be fair that could have been because I chose raspberry jelly and it was way too sweet! Not to mention it's 300g of cottage cheese for one serving and this is a SNACK! Not a meal. 300g of cottage cheese with 300g of water - to go along with your other snack and three meals.

    The sides to the mains are usually just greens and three days in I'm already bored. 210g of spinach (I actually weighed that and said, no way) or green beans or broccoli. The former two are usually more palatable for me, but still a lot of blandness, even with a main that has been spiced and flavoured to an inch of it's life. Really didn't think I would be signing up to this and eating green beans and broccoli all the time, given Joe's public recipes.

    The ingredients are pricey, not because of what they are - well some (wheatgrass, sirloin steak, turkey rashers/sausages), but because you have to buy so bloody much of it! The quick and handiest post workout meal is Joe's infamous "Build up bagel" but I'm supposed to have 100g of beef and a further 200g of chicken in one bagel. I think it's about ten slices of meat all in all. It's tasty but not easy on the pocket. Not to mention the rest of stuff you pop into it. Not to mention there's only about 100-150g of chicken in those deli packs usually, so you gotta buy two for one bagel.

    Which now leads me to the prep time. Granted my actual time with this is a bit skewed because I only got the plan Sunday night, so I shopped Monday and have been too busy working to actually prep for an entire week. So I have been cooking before work, after my workout and no way I can keep this up. For two meals, to weigh out the ingredients, blend them, fry them, etc, etc it takes about two hours. It's very time consuming and I'm not really feeling this aspect of it. I kinda feel a bit cheated given the premise is 15 minute amazing and healthy recipes. Oh yeah, which also reminds me, all of the Instagram stuff you see - it's not in cycle one. Maybe one or two dishes but apparently it's cycle two where that kicks in... Incentive to get there I suppose!

    I have actually made Joe's recipes before doing this from Instagram and I loved them. Very nice, but wow, the actual food here is very average. A far cry from the curries with rice being flung across the room into the microwave.

    The workouts are fine. I loved HIIT before and love it now. It's fast and effective. The "workouts" you are sent feel terrible cheap as "they" are literally just one pasted video of a warmup that anyone can access on Youtube and the rest are picture diagrams of different types of HIIT. Like rowing, or running. No actual fitness program. Just a guideline to workout 5 times a week, which I do understand given Leanin15 is more food based, but still...

    I'm not meaning to bash, or sound negative. I'm still trying to give this my best and stick with it for at least cycle one to see how my measurements go, but yeah, not sure as of now! Kind of wish I knew all this before going into it. I thought I researched enough, but clearly not!

    Frankie2Shoes, do you have the link to the Facebook group? Might help me along!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭DANNY2014


    Signed up myself in June and started on the 4th meals are a bit meh but if you prep in advance it makes a huge difference. I preped for Mon tues and wed an got on great had notin prepped for today and took the unhealthy root. Will get back on track tonite.

    The Facebook group at the moment look up 90 day plan getting lean in 15 and yhe body coach 90daysss plan july starters some handy guides there.

    E.g you can swap the cottage cheese for 0% fat Greek yoghurt for the moose. With the green veg i had 190g and i wilted it down easiest way to eqt it imho. don't be fooled that just spinach will do too there is tonnes of different types of green veg asparagus,cabbage,kale garden peas. I had mangetout with the lean muscle mince and the mince was quite bland so I questioned the support coach and you can add more spices and salt (happy days) second serving I had green beans.

    Meat is quite expensive and I find keeping and eye on the supermarkets help I got 350g mini fillet chicken in lidl last weekend for 2 euro. The build up bagel is expensive I've pretty much the same 200g chicken but used deli turkey which cost 2.70.

    Eggs tomatoes and green veg was huge but I had it for brekkie yesterday and I was full till well after 3 o clock. The big meals help to stop going for unhealthy options I suppose that's the purpose of it. Pancakes likewise I hated couldn't eat them and won't be going there again..

    Have you had the bcaa powder? I got the unflavored and it was like drinking medicine. Had to add mi wadi to it which helped a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭frankie2shoes


    To access the facebook goup just type 90 day sss plan into the facebook search bar at the top of the facebook page.
    Frozen chopped onions and peppers were a huge time saving on prep and they're cheap in tesco. Lidl and Aldi for chicken and Deli meats.....
    Best of luck with it!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭lilylarkin


    Im 17.5 stone and only 5' 4". I signed up a few days ago and just waiting on the plan now. I'm so heavy I dont know how/if im going to be able to do a HIIT excercise. I'm also a coeliac so it will be interesting to see if that is taken into account in the food plan. We shall see. I'll keep my progress posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Extraplus


    lilylarkin wrote: »
    Im 17.5 stone and only 5' 4". I signed up a few days ago and just waiting on the plan now. I'm so heavy I dont know how/if im going to be able to do a HIIT excercise. I'm also a coeliac so it will be interesting to see if that is taken into account in the food plan. We shall see. I'll keep my progress posted.

    You'll probably find the HIIT workouts he posts on youtube a bit too tough to start out with, but HIIT is just interval training, so you can adapt it to suit you. As soon as you get your plan reply and ask what they would recommend for HIIT training to get you started.

    Best of luck with it all, if you stick with it you'll see results in no time and will be flying through the youtube workouts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭marialouise


    paulers06 wrote: »
    I actually feel quite bloated and ill if I eat bread now. I wonder if that was just the norm for me before.

    I'm not on the 90 day plan but have had another plan which involved seriously reducing carb intake. I would never in my life have thought I felt bloated or sluggish after eating certain foods, but now when I do eat them and feel rubbish I wonder if I felt like that all along! It's very strange to say it but I feel like I have consistently good digestive health at the moment, never have heartburn or gas or any symptoms of indigestion at all, ever! I honestly wonder if it was like that before or not, glad to read the same!

    Also I did a different plan which involved crazy amounts of prep as well (it was 100% tailor made so a little bit more expensive), took crazy amounts of time but the results were very good. I did that in November+December and lost 6kg, then maintained for a little while (Christmas woooh) and then went and lost 10kg more from Easter-July because of what I'd learned about meal prep, meal timing, making time for exercise etc.
    The few weeks I did it I thought "this isn't for me, this is crazy, this isn't sustainable", but if you can get through those few weeks, you'll nail the rest of the year. It has the potential to develop very important habits and when you realise you can make time for the prep and exercise and a busy life, you'll have achieved a lot more than just a drop on the scales, so don't be alarmed if you find it difficult!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Hi guys I was thinking about buying the two books that this guy has released. I like the mini videos he posts up on facebook making a meal but they are difficult to follow to actually prepare at home yourself. Are the books any good? Not talking about the plan, just the books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭scrumqueen


    Sunny Dayz wrote: »
    Hi guys I was thinking about buying the two books that this guy has released. I like the mini videos he posts up on facebook making a meal but they are difficult to follow to actually prepare at home yourself. Are the books any good? Not talking about the plan, just the books.

    I have the first one, lots of recipes mainly, and he covers a few basic HIIT exercises but there's nothing much in the way of a plan to follow in it. It's more just him outlining why the scales are bad and broad nutrition principles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭T-b0n3


    Sunny Dayz wrote: »
    Hi guys I was thinking about buying the two books that this guy has released. I like the mini videos he posts up on facebook making a meal but they are difficult to follow to actually prepare at home yourself. Are the books any good? Not talking about the plan, just the books.
    scrumqueen wrote: »
    I have the first one, lots of recipes mainly, and he covers a few basic HIIT exercises but there's nothing much in the way of a plan to follow in it. It's more just him outlining why the scales are bad and broad nutrition principles.

    I have both books and have never paid for the sss plan online.

    While its not the be all and end all, I'd have to disagree with scrumqueen above. There is a plan. In a nut shell it's how, what and when to exercise and eat.

    Book 1 covers cycle 1 which is the shift cycle.
    Book 2 covers cycle 2 which is the shape cycle, which incorporates German volume training which is weight training.

    The books are €10 each ish and I think it's money well spent. I'm looking forward to seeing what book 3 and cycle 3 is all about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭pauldoo


    Just came across this guy yesterday and was thinking of doing the plan.

    There is a lot of talk about the timing of meals, is it as simple as on workout days he adds more cards to breakfast and lunch, followed by the post workout meal with higher protein on non workout days.

    Would anyone have a sample of what they eat over a few days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    pauldoo wrote: »
    Just came across this guy yesterday and was thinking of doing the plan.

    There is a lot of talk about the timing of meals, is it as simple as on workout days he adds more cards to breakfast and lunch, followed by the post workout meal with higher protein on non workout days.

    Would anyone have a sample of what they eat over a few days?

    Ok so I have both books and I signed up for the plan.. (Starting the plan next week cycle 1 pack received) Both are different to be honest .. The plan is based on all your stats the book isn't - portions in the books are a good bit bigger than on ur own plan - while I do think the books are great and will use them once I'm
    Finished the plan I will stick to my plan for the 3 months etc...

    You only eat a 'carb meal' on the days u exercise and must be within 90 minutes of finishing ur exercise.. As he recommends a hiit 5 days a week the for 2 days the meals will be no carbs etc .

    With that said the meals without carbs are amazing a decent portions so you won't miss your carbs etc

    If u are thinking of doing the plan..sign up to his 14 day get lean plan (free on his site) after the 14 days you'll get a discount code for the plan it's £10 I think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭pauldoo


    What are you guys having for breakfast, I bought his book but I don't see a lot of breakfast options, I know if I had a smoothie I would be starving by about 10am


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Cazale


    pauldoo wrote:
    What are you guys having for breakfast, I bought his book but I don't see a lot of breakfast options, I know if I had a smoothie I would be starving by about 10am


    thebodycoach.co.uk/blog/10_banging_breakfast_recipes_thatll_get_you_lean_in_15_53.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    anyone still on the plan?

    Started C1 D1 today....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭DANNY2014


    c1 on day 10 following it about 90% in all... Staying away from rubbish food is the big positive I'm getting from it... Cooking so much food is annoying though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    DANNY2014 wrote: »
    c1 on day 10 following it about 90% in all... Staying away from rubbish food is the big positive I'm getting from it... Cooking so much food is annoying though...

    Can I ask do you prep for the week? I've cooked everything for 5 days at a time.. When I'm cooling I'm kinda like ffs.. But but having to do anything for the 5 days is handy. For me it about getting a routine

    On day c1 d3 .. Early days but will try and stick to it 95%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    DANNY2014 wrote: »
    c1 on day 10 following it about 90% in all... Staying away from rubbish food is the big positive I'm getting from it... Cooking so much food is annoying though...

    Can I ask do you prep for the week? I've cooked everything for 5 days at a time.. When I'm cooling I'm kinda like ffs.. But but having to do anything for the 5 days is handy. For me it about getting a routine

    On day c1 d3 .. Early days but will try and stick to it 95%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭DANNY2014


    Cooking two days at a Time is what I'm doin ,mostly the reduced meals... The carb meal I either have the bub or have it portioned and make it after a shower...breakfast is mostly the reduced carb oatmeal without the coconut while at work and on days off I have the guilt free brekkie(notin beats a steak first thing in the morning) I mostly do my hiit at nite time too... As I say I prob follow it 90%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭pauldoo


    What sort of weights element is involved? Do you need to join a gym or could you do it at home with kettlebells and dumbbells?

    How are people getting on, a few people seem to have started recently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    pauldoo wrote: »
    What sort of weights element is involved? Do you need to join a gym or could you do it at home with kettlebells and dumbbells?

    How are people getting on, a few people seem to have started recently

    Only one cycle 1 so no weights yet BUT you dont need to join a gym, you will need to purchase some weights etc but these will come with cycle 2

    Im one week down tomorrow, mentally feel a whole lot better, did a good bit of prep so dont find it too hard. have stuck to it 75%. instead of doing his HIIT's at home im doing 5 x Spin HIIT in my gym and the HIITS on the stairmill at the gym. down 4 pounds - i know he says stay off the bad step but i cant i need to know - it motivates me!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,431 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Really, I thought they were great, very simple, only thing I would like is some sort of nutrition info with them other sites like bodybuilding.com supply, probably easy enough to calculate but it'd be a help.
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