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most memorable murder case?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The brutal murder of Irene White in Dundalk. Still nobody got for it.

    http://www.herald.ie/lifestyle/murdered-mums-diary-reveals-her-life-of-fear-27987416.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    The moors murders

    Stay off the moors, lads..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Shint0 wrote: »
    Catherine Gowing, the vet from Offaly, was also murdered in horrific circumstances in Wales. I don't think her case got as much media coverage as others compared to Karen Buckley not that there ought to be a competition in terms of what receives the most coverage but she died in a very violent depraved manner aswell.

    I followed this one a bit in the news at the time. Utterly horrific what happened to her. I don't know how the families bear it, knowing about their loved ones last hours.
    The Jeremy Bamber case. Some people think he was set up.

    wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Farm_murders

    Have read up a little on this one before. I don't think he pulled the trigger himself, but I think he might have hired someone else to do it. When inheritance is at stake though, it's hard to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,283 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Joanna Yeates was a case that stuck in my mind with it being so near Christmas and her body being found on Christmas day. I also remember the murder investigation at it really focusing on an innocent man because he was a bit different until the really killer was caught.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭BubbleBuddy


    Not sure if anyone mentioned Mark Nash, the serial killer, recently sentenced for the Grangegorman killings, extremely violent, previously in prison for 2 other murders. His trial for the Grangegorman killings was on at the same time as Graham Dwyer but strangely got little media coverage considering the violence.

    Graham Dwyer's trial sadly highlighted how the victim in a murder trial, her family and witnesses completely lose their privacy.

    Recent trial in the UK of Nathan Matthews and Shauna Hoare for the murder of Matthews step-sister Becky Watts.

    Joe O'Reilly. Just glad he recently lost his appeal. Raonaid Murray, hopefully they will catch the killer eventually. The Gardai did apparently rule out Graham Dwyer...but...

    In the US, cases which got a lot of media attention like Jodi Arias (stabbed ex 27 times, shot him in the head), Scott Peterson (murdered his pregnant wife), Drew Peterson (murdered 1 wife, suspected of killing another).

    In Canada, Karla Homolka, who with her husband Paul Bernardo killed 3 girls (including her sister), Luka Magnotta, a fan of Homolka, who killed his boyfriend and did obscene things to his corpse which are too horrific to post.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Shergar6


    Joanna Yeates was a case that stuck in my mind with it being so near Christmas and her body being found on Christmas day. I also remember the murder investigation at it really focusing on an innocent man because he was a bit different until the really killer was caught.

    Yeah i remember that. Her next door neighbour. Her boyfriend went away for a night and he struck. He had a lovely girlfriend and everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Shergar6


    ofcork wrote: »
    Her ex is a major suspect in that and has been in court in canada for threatining his now partner in october last year.

    Jesus.......

    I think it's believed that a family member helped him cover that up. Shame on them all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Shergar6


    Actually, remember a new depth of depravity one, the kidnap and murder of Junko Furuta...

    This one is seriously depraved. No, I mean SERIOUSLY. The link contains images which may be NSFW, and are certainly unsuitable for children


    http://www.strangetruenews.com/2013/05/japanese-horror-story-torture-of-junko.html

    I find it hard to believe that anyone could last 44 days going through all of that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    Near where I used to live, about 1952, the murder of Patricia Curran.
    Gordon Have Davis convicted and freedom after nine years.

    Some believe it was either her Mother or her Brother wad the killer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 33 Stephen Hero


    Johnny Gosch another f**ked up case

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Gosch


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,827 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    The murder of Patricia Doherty.
    She lived around the corner from me and I know her daughter very well.
    It still haunts me to this day to think of her passing.

    Also, the murder of Sonia Blount, another girl I knew very well, who lived near me.

    She left her son's third birthday party to meet a guy (who she had been dating but was stalking her) in a local hotel.
    Nobody knows why she went to meet him, let alone why she met him in a room.

    He brought paraphernalia to carry out the murder so he went there with the intention of killing her.
    Strangled her to death.

    I know everyone says they don't expect things like this to happen to people they know, but it's true.

    We see things on the news and they're happening to other people, but when I heard Sonia Blount was murdered, I just could not get over it.
    The guy's trial has been postponed til next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Jill Meagher murdered in OZ, remember?

    That was truly shocking, poor girl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    Cases like Irene White and Fiona Pender, where the police largely know who did it but don't have enough evidence must be immensely frustrating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Shergar6


    Dolbert wrote: »
    Cases like Irene White and Fiona Pender, where the police largely know who did it but don't have enough evidence must be immensely frustrating.

    Same with Fiona Sinnott. Everybody knows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    I worked with Graham Dwyer for 4 years so when it all came out it really floored me for quite a while. Aside from the obvious grief Elaine O'Haras family went through, I always felt terrible for his poor wife and kids


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    Danbo! wrote: »
    I worked with Graham Dwyer for 4 years so when it all came out it really floored me for quite a while. Aside from the obvious grief Elaine O'Haras family went through, I always felt terrible for his poor wife and kids

    I always have to wonder is there a huge internal pressure in maintaining the facade lest the mask slips. The gap between their real selves and the face they present to the rest of the world must be the size of Croke Park. How easy they can suddenly switch between dual or alternate personalities and lifestyles.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 214 ✭✭edbrez


    John Carty - the FBI said the Guards should have shot him through a window before he got out of his house. Suicide by cop from depression from living in Longford.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As a few have mentioned disappearances, the Tara Calico case is a weird one...the photograph that turned up later...

    Again, warning, the photo is disturbing...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Calico


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,487 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    I remember reading about this in a book I had , very sad . Never knowing if they're dead or alive must be a daily torture for the families.

    https://forumofgames.com/



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 sassychick91


    Sarah Payne, Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, and Karen Buckley are the three cases that have stayed with me and Ill always remember clearly. I know Karens is more recent but with these cases I always just remember just feeling really connected to those girls for some reason, like I knew them. I think being a young woman of 25 now, I was about the same age as all of them when they were abducted and killed which I think is why they affected me more and I related to them more. I was around the same age as Sarah Payne in 2000, the same as Holly and Jessica in 2002 and the same with Karen last year.

    I can still remember the long summery days of 2002 when Holly and Jessica went missing and I can still remember the front pages of some newspapers at the time. I can still picture their faces - they would have been such beautiful young women.

    It's kind of weird to think Sarah Payne, Holly and Jessica, and Karen Buckley should be the same age now being born around the same time and coming from the same generation (early 90s), they should be doing things that most girls our age do and enjoy. So unfair.


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  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Danbo! wrote: »
    I worked with Graham Dwyer for 4 years so when it all came out it really floored me for quite a while. Aside from the obvious grief Elaine O'Haras family went through, I always felt terrible for his poor wife and kids

    Know a fellow who was close friends with him, can't talk to him about it, he used to visit Dwyer in prison...I hope he has ceased since the guilty verdict was handed down. I'm all for standing by friends...but like, come on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭The Young Wan


    For me it would be Sarah Payne. I was the same age when she went missing, and I vividly remember being in Majorca with my parents around the time and not leaving their side for a second. It was the first time I realised there was real evil in this world. I read each newspaper each and every day to keep up to date.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 sassychick91


    I also think Karen Buckleys and Jill Meaghers murders are both eerily similar in so many different ways. I remember when Karen went missing I instantly thought of Jill as I thought both Jill and Karen looked a bit alike, especially with the long black curly hair, it sent shivers down my spine. Both walking home after nights out, and then the cctv of them both being seen talking to their killers (although Buckleys was never released - only her walking away from the club with pacteau was made public) and then the vigils which were held in their memory, not to mention the debates about women walking alone, rape culture etc. It was like history repeating itself. And they both just happened to be 2 lovely young women walking home by complete chance, and both happened to be Irish. Life can be so strange sometimes, you'd wonder are these things part of destiny/fate.

    RIP to them both, I hope they are together now if there is an afterlife X


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Aineoil


    The murders committed by Malcom MacArthur always send a chill down my spine. He murdered nurse Bridie Gargan in the Phoenix Park as the poor girl was sunbathing.

    He also murdered Dónal Dunne, from Edenderry in Offaly, with his own shotgun. Dónal was a young farmer selling the shotgun. MacArthur then stole Dunne's car and drove it to Dublin.

    I was 17 at the time, it was the summer and reports of these murders were shocking.

    MacArthur admitted killing Bridie, as a result he was never tried for killing Dónal as the state entered a plea of nolle prosequi.

    I never fully understand nolle prosequi.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 33 Stephen Hero


    John Shaw and Geoffrey Evans

    Came to Ireland with the intention of killing one woman per week.
    Killed two in 1976, jailed in 1978. Shaw still in prison. Evans dead.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    The Missing Postman in Stradbally, Co. Waterford.

    "A dead man, but no body. The locals, who were the last to see him alive as they drank illegally in the local pub in Stradbally on Christmas Day, close ranks. "



    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/the-missing-postman-26713401.html


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    John Shaw and Geoffrey Evans

    Came to Ireland with the intention of killing one woman per week.
    Killed two in 1976, jailed in 1978. Shaw still in prison. Evans dead.

    They were completely depraved and saw Ireland as a soft touch.

    They did have a very interesting impact on the law of evidence and illegally obtained evidence in this country. They had some very strong defences, including that one of the accused confessed but in error the time allowed for detention for questioning had lapsed, and also their caravan was accessed by the Gardai without a warrant.


  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A lot of cases which stick in my memory have already been mentioned.

    I cried for Karen Buckley. There is something so close to home about that poor girls murder. She was having a night out. Probably excited about her future and her time in the UK. Then an animal stole it all from her.

    The murder of April Jones broke my heart. I remember the photo of the pink ribbons tied on the way in to the church. Pink was her favourite colour. The monster who took her never told police where her body was as far as I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    They were completely depraved and saw Ireland as a soft touch.

    They did have a very interesting impact on the law of evidence and illegally obtained evidence in this country. They had some very strong defences, including that one of the accused confessed but in error the time allowed for detention for questioning had lapsed, and also their caravan was accessed by the Gardai without a warrant.

    ....don't start them off with the "c" word for jaysus sake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭solerina


    Definately James Bulger...cant ever forget that.

    Also, there was a murder by a father-Chris Crowley, of his young daughter- Deirdre, about 15 years ago, he had taken her from her mother almost 2 years before and I felt so sad for the mother to have to see her daughter murdered after not seeing her for so long (she probably couldn't even see her as there was massive damage done to her face from a shotgun blast, which makes it seem worse, somehow)....he also killed himself as the Gardaí were knocking on the door looking to return Deirdre to her mother.


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