Father and Son, Shower photo.

KERSPLAT! · 20-05-2016 11:02PM #1

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-36322279

I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this? Reading that article it seems to have been mostly positive, I'm glad to say, but it has received some negative responses too

I see absolutely no issue with it. A loving father holding, caring, nursing his son.

Why in the shower?

"Thomas had spent hours in the shower with him, trying to keep his fever down and letting the vomit and diarrhea rinse off of them both as it came,"

Any thoughts?

Kermit.de.frog · 20-05-2016 11:03PM

Don't see the issue myself.

20-05-2016 11:05PM

It's a lovely photo of the loving care of a dad looking after his sick baby. Anyone who sees anything wrong with it is fundamentally flawed.

20-05-2016 11:07PM

It's actually perverse and slightly seedy to read anything perverse or seedy into it. It's almost depressing and it says far more about the eye of the beholder.

Jasper79 · 20-05-2016 11:08PM

Lovely photo of father and son nothing wrong with that.

Posting online for anybody to see I don't agree with.

I don't know why you'd want to share something so private like that with the world

whatismyname · 20-05-2016 11:09PM

I certainly don't see it as disgusting (headline asks 'disgusting or beautiful?'), and don't know what type of negativity the picture received.

But the issue I have with it is probably a different one.

I actually find the picture beautiful, and certainly in no way see it as pornographic or seedy or anything like that. But even without being pornographic, the child is naked, and the child cannot consent to a naked picture of themselves being shared online / with the world, so I don't think it should be shared with strangers / online.

On a similar note, I have had friend post naked pictures of their babies on facebook, and I reported them to facebook as breaching the facebook standards, and they were removed. I didn't perceive the picture as pornographic, but I see that child as having a right not to have a picture of themselves online without their consent. And since they can't consent to it as are too young to understand the implications of their naked picture being shared with the world, I don't believe it should be shared.

And that by all means keep the picture until the child is old enough to share it with people themselves if they so wish (I'd imagine in many cases the child on becoming an adult would not choose to share their naked baby pictures with whoever online.)

suicide_circus · 20-05-2016 11:09PM

Nothing wrong with the photo.
Whether I'd put such personal photos of my child on the internet is another matter

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-05-2016 11:11PM

Anyone who has a problem with this has a twisted mind

endacl · 20-05-2016 11:11PM

I'm I alone in thinking 'that's practical'?

I mean, rather than have to constantly clean the kid?

jester77 · 20-05-2016 11:13PM

The poor child is in a really bad way and the mother decides to take a photo of him

That would be the last thing on my mind if my child was that sick.

20-05-2016 11:13PM

whatismyname wrote: »

I actually find the picture beautiful, and certainly in no way see it as pornographic or seedy or anything like that. But even without being pornographic, the child is naked, and the child cannot consent to a naked picture of themselves being shared online / with the world, so I don't think it should be shared with strangers / online.

That's actually a very good point and valid objection. The child has had no say in a naked image of themselves being shared, and thinking about it it doesn't feel right, as nice as the image is.

retalivity · 20-05-2016 11:14PM

Id be more concerned that they named their child 'fox'

To the 'stupidest childrens names' thread!!!

Sonics2k · 20-05-2016 11:14PM

Nothing wrong with it at all. Frankly people complaining show more about themselves as opposed to there being anything wrong with it.

20-05-2016 11:15PM

retalivity wrote: »

Id be more concerned that they named their child 'fox'

To the 'stupidest childrens names' thread!!!

Fox Mulder got there first with that name.

omahaid · 20-05-2016 11:15PM

The negative responses are disgraceful and anyone who makes them should be ashamed.

Digs · 20-05-2016 11:17PM

Jasper79 wrote: »

Lovely photo of father and son nothing wrong with that.

Posting online for anybody to see I don't agree with.

I don't know why you'd want to share something so private like that with the world

Yeah this is my thinking.

It's a beautiful photo and one which should be kept private imo. I really dislike this over sharing culture that's developing with Facebook, Instagram etc parents (especially) are creating social media footprints on their children's behalf without a second thought and who knows what that child will think as a teenager or adult. He may like the photo but will he enjoy it being on the internet forever? Surely that should be his decision to make.

For some people nothing is private anymore, I think it's sad.

Realt Dearg Sec · 20-05-2016 11:17PM

endacl wrote: »

I'm I alone in thinking 'that's practical'?

I mean, rather than have to constantly clean the kid?

Apparently you're not alone. It's rare I go onto a boards thread and find that everyone is being sane and sensible, the only strange thing is that someone would put it on the internet. Not sure why they'd do that, or what they were expecting other than a witch hunt.

KERSPLAT! · 20-05-2016 11:17PM

jester77 wrote: »

The poor child is in a really bad way and the mother decides to take a photo of him That would be the last thing on my mind if my child was that sick.

He was in the shower for hours, I'm not sure the mother leaving for a few seconds did any harm. It was a beautiful image and she wanted to have it forever.

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I would agree somewhat with some posts regarding the photos being posted online. While I understand that there's a huge difference between naked and clothed, should we not post any photos of our kids online without their consent.**

Edited because the last sentence made no sense**

timthumbni · 20-05-2016 11:18PM

The picture wouldn't concern me so much as to why anyone would take a picture of their sick kid and then post it on Facebook. That's Facebook for you I suppose.

Nonoperational · 20-05-2016 11:18PM

It's frankly bizarre to put it on public view on Facebook. Jesus people can't scratch their holes these days without putting it online. Child critically unwell and the mother is taking pictures and putting them on Facebook. Bloody weird.

Samaris · 20-05-2016 11:18PM

Nothing wrong with the photo. Bit weird sharing it though.

20-05-2016 11:18PM

Why do people feel the need to post their frankly uninteresting lives on the internet? "and of course I shared it" WHY?

osarusan · 20-05-2016 11:20PM

"And this is you when you were sick with diarrhoea."

20-05-2016 11:21PM

I think if/when I have kids that I'd try to avoid posting any images of them online. I'd probably leave it up to them, when they're old enough, to decide what kind of internet presence they have.

Realt Dearg Sec · 20-05-2016 11:24PM

Digs wrote: »

Yeah this is my thinking.

It's a beautiful photo and one which should be kept private imo. I really dislike this over sharing culture that's developing with Facebook, Instagram etc parents (especially) are creating social media footprints on their children's behalf without a second thought and who knows what that child will think as a teenager or adult. He may like the photo but will he enjoy it being on the internet forever? For some people nothing is private anyway, I think it's sad.

Yeah I agree, i think it's a great photo in the context of why it was taken, but I have a daughter born last year and I haven't so much as put a single picture or even a thanks/likes whoring mention of her on social media for the very reason you mention. Actually have been closing all my social media accounts as it happens. Would prefer my daughter make her own decisions about how she is recorded and known in this bizarre new world that she'll understand better than i ever will, and the consequences of which we're still learning (through stories like this!)

Esel · 20-05-2016 11:25PM

Three issues for me:

1. The weirdos who have a problem with it,

2. The weirdos who will get off on it,

3. Making it public, thus triggering 1 and 2 above.

getzls · 20-05-2016 11:27PM

Not read through it all, but if it had been a Mother and Child?

Digs · 20-05-2016 11:28PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Yeah I agree, i think it's a great photo in the context of why it was taken, but I have a daughter born last year and I haven't so much as put a single picture or even a thanks/likes whoring mention of her on social media for the very reason you mention. Actually have been closing all my social media accounts as it happens. Would prefer my daughter make her own decisions about how she is recorded and known in this bizarre new world that she'll understand better than i ever will, and the consequences of which we're still learning (through stories like this!)

We're the same. I have a 3 yr old girl and #2 is due in 3 weeks. Not a sign of number one on Facebook. However we did have to tell members of my husbands family to take pictures of her down when she was born. Warnings will go out when #2 is born. The mind boggles as to what goes through some people's heads! We're the stranges ones apparently for being uptight about it

KERSPLAT! · 20-05-2016 11:31PM

getzls wrote: »

Not read through it all, but if it had been a Mother and Child?

As I said, it's been a mostly positive reaction. No need for a father v mother argument.

Realt Dearg Sec · 20-05-2016 11:35PM

Digs wrote: »

We're the same. I have a 3 yr old girl and #2 is due in 3 weeks. Not a sign of number one on Facebook. However we did have to tell members of my husbands family to take pictures of her down when she was born. Warnings will go out when #2 is born. The mind boggles as to what goes through some people's heads! We're the stranges ones apparently for being uptight about it

Stick to your guns, although i can see how people feel it's utterly normal, and a few newborn pictures are hardly going to do any harm, but I'm just inclined be as conservative as possible so as to leave it up to herself. Still if someone was to put up a picture of her on Facebook just smiling or whatever I would leave them at it (don't have Facebook so wouldn't even know anyway), but still I'd support your approach personally, let the child have privacy until they're old enough to decide what they want to share.

jimgoose · 20-05-2016 11:35PM

No issues with that man or the photo, except to wonder what kind of lunatic would publish that kind of thing to the Internet.

Father and Son, Shower photo.

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