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Father and Son, Shower photo.

  • 20-05-2016 10:02pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-36322279

    I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this? Reading that article it seems to have been mostly positive, I'm glad to say, but it has received some negative responses too

    I see absolutely no issue with it. A loving father holding, caring, nursing his son.

    Why in the shower?
    "Thomas had spent hours in the shower with him, trying to keep his fever down and letting the vomit and diarrhea rinse off of them both as it came,"

    Any thoughts?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,829 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Don't see the issue myself.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's a lovely photo of the loving care of a dad looking after his sick baby. Anyone who sees anything wrong with it is fundamentally flawed.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's actually perverse and slightly seedy to read anything perverse or seedy into it. It's almost depressing and it says far more about the eye of the beholder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Jasper79


    Lovely photo of father and son nothing wrong with that.

    Posting online for anybody to see I don't agree with.

    I don't know why you'd want to share something so private like that with the world


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    I certainly don't see it as disgusting (headline asks 'disgusting or beautiful?'), and don't know what type of negativity the picture received.

    But the issue I have with it is probably a different one.

    I actually find the picture beautiful, and certainly in no way see it as pornographic or seedy or anything like that. But even without being pornographic, the child is naked, and the child cannot consent to a naked picture of themselves being shared online / with the world, so I don't think it should be shared with strangers / online.

    On a similar note, I have had friend post naked pictures of their babies on facebook, and I reported them to facebook as breaching the facebook standards, and they were removed. I didn't perceive the picture as pornographic, but I see that child as having a right not to have a picture of themselves online without their consent. And since they can't consent to it as are too young to understand the implications of their naked picture being shared with the world, I don't believe it should be shared.

    And that by all means keep the picture until the child is old enough to share it with people themselves if they so wish (I'd imagine in many cases the child on becoming an adult would not choose to share their naked baby pictures with whoever online.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Nothing wrong with the photo.
    Whether I'd put such personal photos of my child on the internet is another matter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Anyone who has a problem with this has a twisted mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I'm I alone in thinking 'that's practical'?

    I mean, rather than have to constantly clean the kid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    The poor child is in a really bad way and the mother decides to take a photo of him :confused: That would be the last thing on my mind if my child was that sick.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    I actually find the picture beautiful, and certainly in no way see it as pornographic or seedy or anything like that. But even without being pornographic, the child is naked, and the child cannot consent to a naked picture of themselves being shared online / with the world, so I don't think it should be shared with strangers / online.

    That's actually a very good point and valid objection. The child has had no say in a naked image of themselves being shared, and thinking about it it doesn't feel right, as nice as the image is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,818 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Id be more concerned that they named their child 'fox'

    To the 'stupidest childrens names' thread!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Nothing wrong with it at all. Frankly people complaining show more about themselves as opposed to there being anything wrong with it.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    retalivity wrote: »
    Id be more concerned that they named their child 'fox'

    To the 'stupidest childrens names' thread!!!

    Fox Mulder got there first with that name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    The negative responses are disgraceful and anyone who makes them should be ashamed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭Digs


    Jasper79 wrote: »
    Lovely photo of father and son nothing wrong with that.

    Posting online for anybody to see I don't agree with.

    I don't know why you'd want to share something so private like that with the world

    Yeah this is my thinking.

    It's a beautiful photo and one which should be kept private imo. I really dislike this over sharing culture that's developing with Facebook, Instagram etc parents (especially) are creating social media footprints on their children's behalf without a second thought and who knows what that child will think as a teenager or adult. He may like the photo but will he enjoy it being on the internet forever? Surely that should be his decision to make.

    For some people nothing is private anymore, I think it's sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    endacl wrote: »
    I'm I alone in thinking 'that's practical'?

    I mean, rather than have to constantly clean the kid?

    Apparently you're not alone. It's rare I go onto a boards thread and find that everyone is being sane and sensible, the only strange thing is that someone would put it on the internet. Not sure why they'd do that, or what they were expecting other than a witch hunt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    jester77 wrote: »
    The poor child is in a really bad way and the mother decides to take a photo of him :confused: That would be the last thing on my mind if my child was that sick.

    He was in the shower for hours, I'm not sure the mother leaving for a few seconds did any harm. It was a beautiful image and she wanted to have it forever.

    _______


    I would agree somewhat with some posts regarding the photos being posted online. While I understand that there's a huge difference between naked and clothed, should we not post any photos of our kids online without their consent.**

    Edited because the last sentence made no sense**


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    The picture wouldn't concern me so much as to why anyone would take a picture of their sick kid and then post it on Facebook. That's Facebook for you I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    It's frankly bizarre to put it on public view on Facebook. Jesus people can't scratch their holes these days without putting it online. Child critically unwell and the mother is taking pictures and putting them on Facebook. Bloody weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Nothing wrong with the photo. Bit weird sharing it though.


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  • Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why do people feel the need to post their frankly uninteresting lives on the internet? "and of course I shared it" WHY?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,779 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    "And this is you when you were sick with diarrhoea."


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think if/when I have kids that I'd try to avoid posting any images of them online. I'd probably leave it up to them, when they're old enough, to decide what kind of internet presence they have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Digs wrote: »
    Yeah this is my thinking.

    It's a beautiful photo and one which should be kept private imo. I really dislike this over sharing culture that's developing with Facebook, Instagram etc parents (especially) are creating social media footprints on their children's behalf without a second thought and who knows what that child will think as a teenager or adult. He may like the photo but will he enjoy it being on the internet forever? For some people nothing is private anyway, I think it's sad.

    Yeah I agree, i think it's a great photo in the context of why it was taken, but I have a daughter born last year and I haven't so much as put a single picture or even a thanks/likes whoring mention of her on social media for the very reason you mention. Actually have been closing all my social media accounts as it happens. Would prefer my daughter make her own decisions about how she is recorded and known in this bizarre new world that she'll understand better than i ever will, and the consequences of which we're still learning (through stories like this!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,598 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Three issues for me:

    1. The weirdos who have a problem with it,

    2. The weirdos who will get off on it,

    3. Making it public, thus triggering 1 and 2 above.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    Not read through it all, but if it had been a Mother and Child?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭Digs


    Yeah I agree, i think it's a great photo in the context of why it was taken, but I have a daughter born last year and I haven't so much as put a single picture or even a thanks/likes whoring mention of her on social media for the very reason you mention. Actually have been closing all my social media accounts as it happens. Would prefer my daughter make her own decisions about how she is recorded and known in this bizarre new world that she'll understand better than i ever will, and the consequences of which we're still learning (through stories like this!)

    We're the same. I have a 3 yr old girl and #2 is due in 3 weeks. Not a sign of number one on Facebook. However we did have to tell members of my husbands family to take pictures of her down when she was born. Warnings will go out when #2 is born. The mind boggles as to what goes through some people's heads! We're the stranges ones apparently for being uptight about it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    getzls wrote: »
    Not read through it all, but if it had been a Mother and Child?

    As I said, it's been a mostly positive reaction. No need for a father v mother argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Digs wrote: »
    We're the same. I have a 3 yr old girl and #2 is due in 3 weeks. Not a sign of number one on Facebook. However we did have to tell members of my husbands family to take pictures of her down when she was born. Warnings will go out when #2 is born. The mind boggles as to what goes through some people's heads! We're the stranges ones apparently for being uptight about it :)

    Stick to your guns, although i can see how people feel it's utterly normal, and a few newborn pictures are hardly going to do any harm, but I'm just inclined be as conservative as possible so as to leave it up to herself. Still if someone was to put up a picture of her on Facebook just smiling or whatever I would leave them at it (don't have Facebook so wouldn't even know anyway), but still I'd support your approach personally, let the child have privacy until they're old enough to decide what they want to share.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    No issues with that man or the photo, except to wonder what kind of lunatic would publish that kind of thing to the Internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Honestly I winced upon seeing the photo. If I hadn't read the OP before clicking the link, and I'd seen the photo on it's own, I'd genuinely have thought it was downright bizarre. After reading the story I can only feel for the child in pain, because I'll never forget a similar incident with my own child. I was trying to keep calm while standing in the shower with him (I'd my trousers and shirt on), and my wife was panicking like a headless chicken. If she'd thought at that moment to take a photo (and my wife is an avid photographer), I'd still have thought it was inappropriate.

    If she'd thought to share it on her Facebook... I'm actually not sure what I'd have done tbh. I absolutely detest the idea of people using their children for validation on social media anyway, but the child is in a bad way. I just can't shake the feeling that this woman knew well the photo would go viral with the controversial nature of it. I don't see anything wrong in the photo itself, I just don't see why she felt a need to take a photo of a situation like that (since when is a child with a fever, exploding out both ends, ever a beautiful moment?), let alone upload it on social media.

    It just comes off as inappropriate somehow to "share" that with the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,268 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    jimgoose wrote: »
    No issues with that man or the photo, except to wonder what kind of lunatic would publush that kind of thing to the Internet.

    We should all wear blindfolds in case we see a child somewhere. The world is gone crazy.
    Nothing wrong with photo, she was sharing it with family and friends, not the world. Had she know at the time that this would go viral then she would most likely not have wanted to post it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Maireadio


    No issue, sure some families are nudists together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,231 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    why would you even think to take a picture of it like,if my missus took that pic of me n my son whilst he's suffering her phone would go in the toilet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,268 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Honestly I winced upon seeing the photo. If I hadn't read the OP before clicking the link, and I'd seen the photo on it's own, I'd genuinely have thought it was downright bizarre. After reading the story I can only feel for the child in pain, because I'll never forget a similar incident with my own child. I was trying to keep calm while standing in the shower with him (I'd my trousers and shirt on), and my wife was panicking like a headless chicken. If she'd thought at that moment to take a photo (and my wife is an avid photographer), I'd still have thought it was inappropriate.

    If she'd thought to share it on her Facebook... I'm actually not sure what I'd have done tbh. I absolutely detest the idea of people using their children for validation on social media anyway, but the child is in a bad way. I just can't shake the feeling that this woman knew well the photo would go viral with the controversial nature of it. I don't see anything wrong in the photo itself, I just don't see why she felt a need to take a photo of a situation like that (since when is a child with a fever, exploding out both ends, ever a beautiful moment?), let alone upload it on social media.

    It just comes off as inappropriate somehow to "share" that with the world.


    With one eye Id wince too .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    We should all wear blindfolds in case we see a child somewhere. The world is gone crazy.
    Nothing wrong with photo, she was sharing it with family and friends, not the world. Had she know at the time that this would go viral then she would most likely not have wanted to post it.

    The problem is not me. The problem is the significant portion of the world's population that are off their heads, and these are the people you reach when you publish to the Internet. When it is not necessary to breach security, then it is necessary to not breach security.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Why publish it for all to see?

    That's the only thing wrong here. Poor kid in years to come.

    Smacks of parental abuse by publicity.

    A very private thing and should have been kept that way imv.

    No accounting for those wanting their 15 minutes of fame. Or their very own "viral" story.

    Baffled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,770 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The child had to be hospitalised, did he seek medical advice before spending hours in the shower?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,268 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Honestly I winced upon seeing the photo. If I hadn't read the OP before clicking the link, and I'd seen the photo on it's own, I'd genuinely have thought it was downright bizarre. After reading the story I can only feel for the child in pain, because I'll never forget a similar incident with my own child. I was trying to keep calm while standing in the shower with him (I'd my trousers and shirt on), and my wife was panicking like a headless chicken. If she'd thought at that moment to take a photo (and my wife is an avid photographer), I'd still have thought it was inappropriate.

    If she'd thought to share it on her Facebook... I'm actually not sure what I'd have done tbh. I absolutely detest the idea of people using their children for validation on social media anyway, but the child is in a bad way. I just can't shake the feeling that this woman knew well the photo would go viral with the controversial nature of it. I don't see anything wrong in the photo itself, I just don't see why she felt a need to take a photo of a situation like that (since when is a child with a fever, exploding out both ends, ever a beautiful moment?), let alone upload it on social media.

    It just comes off as inappropriate somehow to "share" that with the world.

    One cannot share something with the world , but things can end up shared with world because they go viral. One could not set out or predict it going viral. I would hate to take a random picture that was somehow funny or weird and for it to end up all over the world. I can't imagine many would want that kind of exposure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    With one eye Id wince too .


    I winced because of the photo, not because I'm blind in one eye? I can still see like :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,816 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I often do that, nobody takes pictures though, perfectly normal everyday thing for any dad, it's the easiest way to wash them.

    *just read it, I don't spent hours in the shower with diorrea kids, stick a nappie on and change it regularly, hours in the shower is a bit odd but they don't come with an instruction book so you do what you think is best.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭elaney


    Last week i seen a photo of a mother with her sick child in the shower
    almost identical to this.
    She got nothing but praise for that photo. I dont see how this father
    shouldnt get the same. My husband has spent many a night up with my
    sick children as i have i never share this on facebook but fathers should be treated the same
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    One cannot share something with the world , but things can end up shared with world because they go viral. One could not set out or predict it going viral. I would hate to take a random picture that was somehow funny or weird and for it to end up all over the world. I can't imagine many would want that kind of exposure.


    Ohh please...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,268 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I winced because of the photo, not because I'm blind in one eye? I can still see like :confused:

    I was Joe King .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,770 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    You have a sick child, do you think 'Here's a photo opportunity'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,435 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    RobertKK wrote: »
    The child had to be hospitalised, did he seek medical advice before spending hours in the shower?

    Fairly standard way of dealing with a high temperature. Medical advice is not always available immediately. For example in Ireland if you need a doctor out of hours you could be waiting all day for a housecall. Even during normal hours it can be difficult to get a GP to see you without appointment.
    Where one chooses the A&E option you better be prepared for a long wait unless you are critical.
    If I was to have gone to A&E everytime my little boy had a high temperature he would have spent half his life in waiting rooms and he is a very healthy child.

    Nice photo. Glad it was shared.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,816 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Ahh no that would be Calpol. That doesn't work, hospital, hours in the shower is just odd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Nothing wrong with it.. Dad might have wanted to put shorts on for the pic..

    I remember having my arse over the bath while I was unwell and my dad reading Thomas the tank while I had non stop ****s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,770 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with it.. Dad might have wanted to put shorts on for the pic..

    I remember having my arse over the bath while I was unwell and my dad reading Thomas the tank while I had non stop ****s.


    Had you no toilet?


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