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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #6002
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Dawggone wrote:
    If you have a second tractor...get your dad to drive down the line you just came up, and you drive parallel with him while you spread
    [/quote]


    Wish I'd thought of that yesterday.


  • #6003
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    kowtow wrote: »


    Wish I'd thought of that yesterday.[/quote]

    Pas grave.


  • #6004
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭visatorro


    whelan2 wrote: »
    The lad who was telling me about them said the cause of it was them being overcrowded in the sheds :confused:

    100 cows in 65 cubicle spaces, would that be considered overcrowding?!


  • #6005
    blackdog1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    Was having problems all winter with this. Kept on getting the occasional cow with swelling just above the hoof. 1 shot of nexaI think the name of the drug is and they were fine. It goes into the fat of the ear with no withdrawal period. Expensive 30 a shot and if you hit a vein can kill the cow. Noricillin worked great too. 10 euro a bottle cash but 4-5 day withdrawal.


  • #6006
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    visatorro wrote: »
    100 cows in 65 cubicle spaces, would that be considered overcrowding?!

    Ah here, I hope that is sarcasm! I'm struggling to remember a good rule of thumb I heard last yr, ir was that cows should only be standing around 10% of the time on slatts/concrete, rest of the time they should be either eating or lying on the cubicles. If you got cows waiting continuously for either you are overcrowding. I've about 60 cubicles in the home yard and really am not comfy with any more than 70 cows in there, I'll only have that many for afew short weeks of the spring if it's proper wet.


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  • #6007
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    Was having problems all winter with this. Kept on getting the occasional cow with swelling just above the hoof. 1 shot of nexaI think the name of the drug is and they were fine. It goes into the fat of the ear with no withdrawal period. Expensive 30 a shot and if you hit a vein can kill the cow. Noricillin worked great too. 10 euro a bottle cash but 4-5 day withdrawal.
    Nexal is good alright, excenel is a similar product but under the skin and 2 or 3 day course, thing they are both cetiophor? But no withdrawal as well. There is a generic of excenel out now as well. I think the M. Bovis issue is it has no cell wall so difficult of not impossible to treat effectively with standard antibiotics


  • #6008
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Dawggone wrote:
    Wish I'd thought of that yesterday.
    [/quote]

    Dawggone wrote:
    Pas grave.

    Second thoughts when it comes up looking like modern art I'll tell the parish it was a misty day + the other driver must have been on the bottle.


  • #6009
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Ah here, I hope that is sarcasm! I'm struggling to remember a good rule of thumb I heard last yr, ir was that cows should only be standing around 10% of the time on slatts/concrete, rest of the time they should be either eating or lying on the cubicles. If you got cows waiting continuously for either you are overcrowding. I've about 60 cubicles in the home yard and really am not comfy with any more than 70 cows in there, I'll only have that many for afew short weeks of the spring if it's proper wet.

    Not really no. Just the way things turned out here leave me abit tight. Nothing to do with expansion


  • #6010
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,789 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-behind-the-scenes-on-teagascs-greenfield-dairy-farm/


  • #6011
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,128 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    whelan2 wrote: »
    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/pics-behind-the-scenes-on-teagascs-greenfield-dairy-farm/

    Takehome message from that article is basically don't let a teagasc advisor do your projected costs for the year, they where 90,000 out in 2015, 130,000 out in 2014 and a staggering 150,000 out in 2013.....
    id say you could take the projected loss they have predicted for 2016 of around 13,000 with a huge pinch of salt and maybe tag a 0 on to the end of it these university educated, apparently top of their field experts simply cant work a calculator and always base their estimates on a best case scenario not worst case our even the middle of the road average


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  • #6012
    yewtree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    I was at the farm walk yesterday. I thought it was very interesting, i was at the first farm walk there in 2010 and hadn't been down since. what it showed me was how high our true cost of production are when a land/labour/bank charges are included.
    I actually think the financial management is good considering they have €125000 in the bank and there use of fixed priced schemes has paid off.


  • #6013
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Second cut. No fertiliser.
    Luzerne to be dropped tomorrow.


  • #6014
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Second cut. No fertiliser.
    Luzerne to be dropped tomorrow.

    Very Irish looking sky in that pic.


  • #6015
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Second cut. No fertiliser.
    Luzerne to be dropped tomorrow.
    I see they are going banning glyphosphate in France dawg regardless of EU decision, any effect on your practices?


  • #6016
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I thought that was pneumonia??

    Cows are perfectly sound...ground is rock hard alright. If no rain this w-end will irrigate next week.

    This link will explain Mycoplasma better than I could.

    The lack of lameness doesn't sound like Mycoplasma is to blame. The hard ground may well be responsible but again some signs of, even slight, soreness could be expected to accompany the swelling.
    I wonder if it could be dietary related, mycotoxins in feed or some 'weed' at pasture. One other suggestion would be mild photosensitisation if the affected legs are white.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • #6017
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    freedominacup wrote: »
    Very Irish looking sky in that pic.

    I'm fed up of being promised rain and nothing falls, so I reckoned that by mowing silage I might tempt fate...nothing doing, so I'll mow luzerne tomorrow and that might make the rain gods frown. Here's hoping.

    Irrigating grass from next week.


  • #6018
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    greysides wrote: »
    This link will explain Mycoplasma better than I could.

    The lack of lameness doesn't sound like Mycoplasma is to blame. The hard ground may well be responsible but again some signs of, even slight, soreness could be expected to accompany the swelling.
    I wonder if it could be dietary related, mycotoxins in feed or some 'weed' at pasture. One other suggestion would be mild photosensitisation if the affected legs are white.

    Thanks Greysides.
    If I added a bit of bicarbonate of soda to buffer, would it help?


  • #6019
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Milked out wrote: »
    I see they are going banning glyphosphate in France dawg regardless of EU decision, any effect on your practices?

    Yes, I'll have to pay the transport from IRL/UK.
    PITA.


  • #6020
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Mowing, pre-mowing, or topping?


  • #6021
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    Milked out wrote: »
    I see they are going banning glyphosphate in France dawg regardless of EU decision, any effect on your practices?
    Dawggone wrote: »
    Yes, I'll have to pay the transport from IRL/UK.
    PITA.

    Banning glyphosate is purely about stopping gm before it gets going and the big bad Monsanto etc rather than any public health what-aboutery. Ban fags/booze/all forms of maize starches will save many billions on health spending.
    Let's see how much more Eu can handicap it's farmers and wonder how to fix the food shortages when self sufficiency tips the wrong way.


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  • #6022
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Thanks Greysides.
    If I added a bit of bicarbonate of soda to buffer, would it help?

    I doubt if it's Acidosis.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • #6023
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Waffletraktor wrote: »
    Banning glyphosate is purely about stopping gm before it gets going and the big bad Monsanto etc rather than any public health what-aboutery. Ban fags/booze/all forms of maize starches will save many billions on health spending.
    Let's see how much more Eu can handicap it's farmers and wonder how to fix the food shortages when self sufficiency tips the wrong way.

    Bang on the money.
    There's no appetite whatsoever for GM in Brussels, and they're just killing it dead before it takes hold. However there's no problem importing GM soya...

    If maize starch was banned the western world would starve to death...or slim down a lot. :)


  • #6024
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Bang on the money.
    There's no appetite whatsoever for GM in Brussels, and they're just killing it dead before it takes hold. However there's no problem importing GM soya...

    If maize starch was banned the western world would starve to death...or slim down a lot. :)

    They're already selling the ag chem companies to the Chinese. So it's a case of now we don't make stuff, sell the intellectual property for tupence, how long does the Eu think it can sustain its self really?
    David Cameron is on record saying Zumba instructors are more valuable to the British economy than farm workers. :confused: Surely kowtow can give us a time scale of the big corrections of scarey proportions to standards of living? Or are they close to safe nuclear from thorium salts yet.


  • #6025
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    Dawggone wrote: »
    If maize starch was banned the western world would starve to death...or slim down a lot. :)

    Nah the yanks would just take 1/3 of their crop area from corn to other cheap grains.


  • #6026
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I've got an outbreak of Rotavirus in the calves...even though all cows are vaccinated 2mts before calving and calves get their mothers milk for 7 days before being put on auto feeder. 18 dead calves in the last two days and this will go higher fast! This follows on from an outbreak of Coronavirus last week but no losses. This Rotavirus is a bast*rd. I've never seen calves to die so fast in my life. From being noticed and treated they are dead within 4hrs...
    Action today.
    I'm planning on fumigating the calf house with a vaporisator with the strongest disinfectant I can buy. Any suggestions? Active ingredient please, as names will not be the same here.
    I'm going to fumigate again tomorrow and the day after. Also calves will stay in the shed whilst being fumigated.
    Thanks.



    Also got 4punctures on tractors and machines yesterday. No call out service here. Lovely.
    I saw this earlier and thought it or something similar might suit you.

    http://calfigloo.com/


  • #6027
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    I saw this earlier and thought it or something similar might suit you.

    http://calfigloo.com/
    Moved on from done deal;-)


  • #6028
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Moved on from done deal;-)
    No click-and-buy so safe enough:pac:


  • #6029
    Markcheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,995 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Waffletraktor wrote:
    Banning glyphosate is purely about stopping gm before it gets going and the big bad Monsanto etc rather than any public health what-aboutery. Ban fags/booze/all forms of maize starches will save many billions on health spending. Let's see how much more Eu can handicap it's farmers and wonder how to fix the food shortages when self sufficiency tips the wrong way.

    Dunno how true it is but i've heard that
    Its possible to find glyphosate residue in bread, beer, meat and milk, and those that eat them.and thats in germany and france not usa.. not that surprising really when you see how much its used now, pre-harvest spraying of cereals in europe and round-up ready maize and soya and other feed from outside.. its routinely in crops.. so routinely in our guts, probably be 20 years or so till it becomes a health issue in the americas.. and the replacement to glyphosate will be well ready then.. i'll get my (tinfoil ) hat ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #6030
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Waffletraktor wrote: »
    They're already selling the ag chem companies to the Chinese. So it's a case of now we don't make stuff, sell the intellectual property for tupence, how long does the Eu think it can sustain its self really?
    David Cameron is on record saying Zumba instructors are more valuable to the British economy than farm workers. :confused: Surely kowtow can give us a time scale of the big corrections of scarey proportions to standards of living? Or are they close to safe nuclear from thorium salts yet.

    Wtf is Zumba?

    One thing that scares the crap outa me is a major food scare...I don't want to see one in my lifetime. For sure.

    If the likes of corn starch is found to be as healthy as liquid thorium salts we're all phucked.


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  • #6031
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Waffletraktor wrote: »
    Nah the yanks would just take 1/3 of their crop area from corn to other cheap grains.

    But, but, but runny ketchup in their burgers??

    Never!


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