Off Topic Thread too point uh

matthew8 · 04-05-2016 06:48PM

Teferi wrote: »

Sanders can still gain the nomination if he wins most of the remaining States. An outside shot but still possible.

A lot of non-Clinton Democrats would vote ABC, I really don't think a Trump win is outside the realms of possibility if she gets the nom.

No he can't, he needs to win them by extremely wide margins, impossible margins really.

Podge_irl · 04-05-2016 06:53PM

Teferi wrote: »

Sanders can still gain the nomination if he wins most of the remaining States. An outside shot but still possible.

A lot of non-Clinton Democrats would vote ABC, I really don't think a Trump win is outside the realms of possibility if she gets the nom.

He's have to win them all by 20 points. The Dems don't do Winner-Takes-All states, it's all fairly proportional so "victories" are often nothing more than symbolic. Not gonna happen unless she either dies or actually gets indicted (neither completely out of the question!).

I would have been a lot more worried about Cruz winning the nomination to be honest. I think he's very scary but more electable. It's hard to see people who don't currently like Trump (which is A LOT) changing their minds.

Gotta be the most unpopular pair of candidates ever though. The American system is mad. I'd take Enda and Michael's posturing over that any day.

irishbucsfan · 04-05-2016 06:58PM

Sanders can still gain the democratic nomination in the same way that Trump can still lose the republican nomination.

I just jope Trump picks Judge Judy has his vice president.

Bazzo · 04-05-2016 07:16PM

I can't see Trump being elected. Outside of his supporters he is pretty universally loathed, mostly for good reason. It'd be pretty embarrassing for the Americans to actually elect him.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 04-05-2016 07:39PM

In local political news.... There was a "debate" in the Daíl today about Climate Change, or its complete absence from the FF/FG government plan and hardly anybody was at it, bar the guy who wanted to raise the topic.

A quote from Danny Healy Rae on climate change; "God above is in charge of the weather, there's nothing we can do about it down here."

04-05-2016 07:46PM

We need to build a wall around The Pale #boggersOut

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 04-05-2016 08:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

We need to build a wall around The Pale #boggersOut

We should see if we can do a swap with Northern Ireland. They can have Kerry and we'll take Tyrone or Down, maybe.

awec · 04-05-2016 08:32PM

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

We should see if we can do a swap with Northern Ireland. They can have Kerry and we'll take Tyrone or Down, maybe.

You can take Tyrone but keep Kerry too.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 04-05-2016 08:45PM

awec wrote: »

You can take Tyrone but keep Kerry too.

NO DEAL!

mfceiling · 04-05-2016 08:46PM

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

A quote from Danny Healy Rae on climate change; "God above is in charge of the weather, there's nothing we can do about it down here."

That is disgraceful. I keep a fair eye on climate change, renewable energy etc. That a clown like Healy Rae can make reference to a make believe "man in the sky" over scientific proof is embarrassing. Not only for him as a man but for the people who voted for him to hold a position of public office.

thomond2006 · 04-05-2016 08:50PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I just jope Trump picks Judge Judy has his vice president.

He's good friends with Vince McMahon.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 04-05-2016 09:12PM

mfceiling wrote: »

That is disgraceful. I keep a fair eye on climate change, renewable energy etc. That a clown like Healy Rae can make reference to a make believe "man in the sky" over scientific proof is embarrassing. Not only for him as a man but for the people who voted for him to hold a position of public office.

It's not at all surprising though. None of the parties give two f**ks about the environment. I specifically checked all the major parties manifestos before the election and other than the Greens, I think SF were the only ones that had an actual Environmental policy in there.
This country could be completely self sufficient when it comes to energy production and free from fossil fuels but previous governments wouldn't invest and instead do deals with Shell to allow them to pipe gas and have us tied to the UK because of how much oil we import through them.

Healy Rae's thought process may be laughable but his attitude towards climate change isn't unique.

rsh118 · 04-05-2016 09:17PM

Can we leave the hole where Tyrone was empty? It'll improve the look of the place.

awec · 04-05-2016 09:17PM

Healy Rae will be minister of soil once this government comes in so you may get used to listening to him.

rsh118 · 04-05-2016 09:20PM

Soil, Herding, and speaking from the Gut rather than Brain Department.

Zzippy · 04-05-2016 09:23PM

https://www.facebook.com/rtenews/videos/1300676569961342/?fref=nf

Says it all about the political interest in climate change in this country... :rolleyes:

mfceiling · 04-05-2016 09:32PM

rsh118 wrote: »

Can we leave the hole where Tyrone was empty? It'll improve the look of the place.

Ouch...

CatFromHue · 04-05-2016 09:59PM

Zzippy wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/rtenews/videos/1300676569961342/?fref=nf

Says it all about the political interest in climate change in this country... :rolleyes:

What can the TD's do in the chamber though?

It's a bit pointless going there until the govt has been formed.

Zzippy · 04-05-2016 10:15PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

What can the TD's do in the chamber though?

It's a bit pointless going there until the govt has been formed.

The next Dail will have be a lot more democratic because of the make up of the government. FG won't be able to guillotine legislation through this time, there will be proper debates over important issues. Nothing pointless about backbench and opposition TDs talking now about issues, they might come to some consensus or come up with some ideas for amendments to legislation - if they bothered even turning up!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 04-05-2016 10:34PM

Zzippy wrote: »

The next Dail will have be a lot more democratic because of the make up of the government. FG won't be able to guillotine legislation through this time, there will be proper debates over important issues. Nothing pointless about backbench and opposition TDs talking now about issues, they might come to some consensus or come up with some ideas for amendments to legislation - if they bothered even turning up!

Exactly. The point being made today was how climate change doesn't even appear on the document FF and FG gave out for the new government. It makes perfect sense to raise the issue now before the new government gets set up.

Podge_irl · 04-05-2016 10:48PM

Zzippy wrote: »

The next Dail will have be a lot more democratic because of the make up of the government. FG won't be able to guillotine legislation through this time, there will be proper debates over important issues. Nothing pointless about backbench and opposition TDs talking now about issues, they might come to some consensus or come up with some ideas for amendments to legislation - if they bothered even turning up!

I am expecting a absolute ****load of abstaining going on - no one is going to actually want to vote with the government on anything regardless of what they say now.

wp_rathead · 04-05-2016 10:52PM

TeoReid wrote: »

I saw Hans Zimmer in concert last night. He's in Dublin at the end of May if anyone is interested. It was pretty amazing.

I've tickets alright, can't wait

Yeah_Right · 04-05-2016 11:07PM

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

It's not at all surprising though. None of the parties give two f**ks about the environment. I specifically checked all the major parties manifestos before the election and other than the Greens, I think SF were the only ones that had an actual Environmental policy in there.
This country could be completely self sufficient when it comes to energy production and free from fossil fuels but previous governments wouldn't invest and instead do deals with Shell to allow them to pipe gas and have us tied to the UK because of how much oil we import through them.

Healy Rae's thought process may be laughable but his attitude towards climate change isn't unique.

It's funny because I actually quite like the Green Party in Ireland. They seem fairly sensible. However in NZ I would not go near that bunch of tree hugging, vegan hippies. The only thing they're good for is getting ground up and be used to feed your dogs, burley fish or to pack a bong.

Please note, I can't vote in Ireland. Yet.

Zzippy · 04-05-2016 11:32PM

Danny Healy Rae, when he did turn up: "Only God above is in charge of the weather and we can't do anything about it".

You absolute moron.

Seriously Kerry, WTF were you thinking?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 04-05-2016 11:35PM

Zzippy wrote: »

Danny Healy Rae, when he did turn up: "Only God above is in charge of the weather and we can't do anything about it".

You absolute moron.

Seriously Kerry, WTF were you thinking?

They were thinking "WATER CHARGES!!! RABBLE, RABBLE, RABBLE!" The same damn thing about 95% of the electorate were thinking and nothing else, except maybe the potholes on the road above the town there.

The entire election was run on one issue and the formation of whatever sort of government has just been formed was done on the same issue. It's a bloody joke.

CatFromHue · 05-05-2016 02:38AM

Zzippy wrote: »

The next Dail will have be a lot more democratic because of the make up of the government. FG won't be able to guillotine legislation through this time, there will be proper debates over important issues. Nothing pointless about backbench and opposition TDs talking now about issues, they might come to some consensus or come up with some ideas for amendments to legislation - if they bothered even turning up!

I disagree, I just see the stuff being talked about now as secondary or third in line stuff. Just filler til the govt is arranged. Whether that's wrong or right I just see it that way.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

They were thinking "WATER CHARGES!!! RABBLE, RABBLE, RABBLE!" The same damn thing about 95% of the electorate were thinking and nothing else, except maybe the potholes on the road above the town there.

The entire election was run on one issue and the formation of whatever sort of government has just been formed was done on the same issue. It's a bloody joke.

Water Charges took up a huge amount of election time but I think in many voters minds there were way down on the list. Unfortunately that hasn't progressed to the media or the anti water political groups.

rsh118 · 05-05-2016 02:52AM

[grey clouds frame a typical Irish doorstep. Politician enters]

*knock knock*

[householder opens the door]

Householder: Well hello there! I've been waiting for my knock. Can I ask you what your party's stance on abor...

Politician: ... We're scrapping water charges. Vote for me. Must dash, lots of knocks to door.

[politician vanishes as quickly as a battered burger on a Friday night]

Scene.

stephen_n · 05-05-2016 07:40AM

CatFromHue wrote: »

What can the TD's do in the chamber though?

It's a bit pointless going there until the govt has been formed.

It's not pointless going in for votes or debates though and those things are still going on despite not having a government. That how ever was only the statements stage, which is a bit like a non mandatory lecture in college. You can get the notes online and probably learn more than you would by attending. As there are probably two or three committees sitting at the same time, it's rare the chamber would be busy for opening statements. Alan Kelly probably felt a little dent to his massive ego as he's sponsoring that bill though.

molloyjh · 05-05-2016 08:44AM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

It's funny because I actually quite like the Green Party in Ireland. They seem fairly sensible. However in NZ I would not go near that bunch of tree hugging, vegan hippies. The only thing they're good for is getting ground up and be used to feed your dogs, burley fish or to pack a bong.

Please note, I can't vote in Ireland. Yet.

That sounds like a threat YR....

As for the Greens I agree they are the most rational party out there atm. During the water charges debate it was Eamon Ryan speaking the most amount of sense on the topic out of everyone. But then their support is reflective of where that gets you. The electorate here don't want a rational debate that they can learn something from, they either want promises that their pockets will be lined and their local issues sorted or they want someone to tell them who's to blame for everything. We've seen time and again that as a group our electorate are an incredibly irresponsible and lazy group.

b.gud · 05-05-2016 01:50PM

Just found out Peaky Blinders is back on TV tonight, can't wait.

Off Topic Thread too point uh

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