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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Better to be born lucky than rich.

    It wouldn't have bothered me one jot about the grass getting wet because it would dry out today. From now on the land needs every drop it can get.
    We were having to run the subsoiler on the headlands to get the ploughs into the ground...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Finished covering pits. The pit covers are the dogs danglies. A couple of hours work for what would have taken the most of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Finished covering pits. The pit covers are the dogs danglies. A couple of hours work for what would have taken the most of the day.

    Nearly every guy we built AD plant and pit for ended up gettinh those "mesh like" covers. Expensive to start with but as you say, the dogs danglies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Finished covering pits. The pit covers are the dogs danglies. A couple of hours work for what would have taken the most of the day.

    You have them a few years now. How are they holding up from a wear and tear pov?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    You have them a few years now. How are they holding up from a wear and tear pov?

    Good as new.
    As Darragh said they're expensive to buy but I think there's a 15 or 20yr guarantee with them.
    Simple to cover the pit and uncover, bird proof also.
    Like calf autofeeder, 21st century.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    People are telling me that fr ai and bulls are going to be way back this year.is this wise , my reading is s##t milk price for the next 2 years leading to a boom in 2018 therefore heifers born next year will be calving in 20 19 when fellas will go mad again.or is the sky falling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    keep going wrote: »
    People are telling me that fr ai and bulls are going to be way back this year.is this wise , my reading is s##t milk price for the next 2 years leading to a boom in 2018 therefore heifers born next year will be calving in 20 19 when fellas will go mad again.or is the sky falling

    Reading it the same as yourself, could be a shortage of dairy heifers in 2019.All b+w here this year, same as every other year except beef AI after 15th June. I think the arse could fall out of beef at the end of this year, a lot of dairy cows will be culled , not alone here in Ireland, but worldwide and those AA and Her calves may not be worth as much next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    keep going wrote: »
    People are telling me that fr ai and bulls are going to be way back this year.is this wise , my reading is s##t milk price for the next 2 years leading to a boom in 2018 therefore heifers born next year will be calving in 20 19 when fellas will go mad again.or is the sky falling
    Add your reply here.
    Talking to Ai rep.there last week he said lads are going one way or the other, a lot of guys buying world of beef straws and the others buying extra fr, one group will be happy anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Reading it the same as yourself, could be a shortage of dairy heifers in 2019.All b+w here this year, same as every other year except beef AI after 15th June. I think the arse could fall out of beef at the end of this year, a lot of dairy cows will be culled , not alone here in Ireland, but worldwide and those AA and Her calves may not be worth as much next year.

    Exactly my thinking too ,all ai fr here till 15/18!june as well .the 2 of us will make a right wedge of cash selling our surplus and poorest stock in 2 years !!!!!,I've a few friends who finish a lot of cattle and from them and nos in cmns on top of all the beef Bulls dairy men are using the beef trade will be extremely tuff from late summer and right throughout next year


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,128 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Exactly my thinking too ,all ai fr here till 15/18!june as well .the 2 of us will make a right wedge of cash selling our surplus and poorest stock in 2 years !!!!!,I've a few friends who finish a lot of cattle and from them and nos in cmns on top of all the beef Bulls dairy men are using the beef trade will be extremely tuff from late summer and right throughout next year

    Hopefully you don't get a bad run of bulls, 6 heifer calves out of last 40 to fr this year, brings my four year average using conv to 75% bulls to 25% heifers only for sexed semen I'd be goosed replacement wise....
    However bad beef gets you'll still clear 200 odd euros for your beef calf at 2-3 weeks old, do you reckon lads will have the money/even want more dairy heifers in 2019, toying with the idea here of keeping all beef heifer calves next year from my blockier cows and calving them down as two year olds and selling with calves at foot could be a better earner then selling excess fr heifers....
    In relation to beef trade been tough it's never been a bed of roses anytime over the past five years but beef cattle always seem to hold their value as many part time beef men don't mind losing money, dairy stock are a different kettle of fish looking over on thefarmingforum dairy stock can't be given away and are only worth canner value in a lot of cases unless their top quality stock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Hopefully you don't get a bad run of bulls, 6 heifer calves out of last 40 to fr this year, brings my four year average using conv to 75% bulls to 25% heifers only for sexed semen I'd be goosed replacement wise....
    However bad beef gets you'll still clear 200 odd euros for your beef calf at 2-3 weeks old, do you reckon lads will have the money/even want more dairy heifers in 2019, toying with the idea here of keeping all beef heifer calves next year from my blockier cows and calving them down as two year olds and selling with calves at foot could be a better earner then selling excess fr heifers....
    In relation to beef trade been tough it's never been a bed of roses anytime over the past five years but beef cattle always seem to hold their value as many part time beef men don't mind losing money, dairy stock are a different kettle of fish looking over on thefarmingforum dairy stock can't be given away and are only worth canner value in a lot of cases unless their top quality stock

    Shut up Jay, lads like me and kev who are happy to keep minimum replacements need lads like MJ to keep knocking out replacement heifers at cost price :p.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Hopefully you don't get a bad run of bulls, 6 heifer calves out of last 40 to fr this year, brings my four year average using conv to 75% bulls to 25% heifers only for sexed semen I'd be goosed replacement wise....
    However bad beef gets you'll still clear 200 odd euros for your beef calf at 2-3 weeks old, do you reckon lads will have the money/even want more dairy heifers in 2019, toying with the idea here of keeping all beef heifer calves next year from my blockier cows and calving them down as two year olds and selling with calves at foot could be a better earner then selling excess fr heifers....
    In relation to beef trade been tough it's never been a bed of roses anytime over the past five years but beef cattle always seem to hold their value as many part time beef men don't mind losing money, dairy stock are a different kettle of fish looking over on thefarmingforum dairy stock can't be given away and are only worth canner value in a lot of cases unless their top quality stock

    Bulls/heifers always balances out here most years .fr Bulls don't bother me as my herd is going to be tipping 190 ebi now and all next years male stock will be genotyped by a certain Ai company ,some will have Ai poteintal ,more for stock Bulls out of yard .certainly won't be making any knee jerk decisions re beef Bulls as I think it's a short sighted decision and I honestly think beef and praticurally he and aa calves could take a right hit due to volume been used .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Shut up Jay, lads like me and kev who are happy to keep minimum replacements need lads like MJ to keep knocking out replacement heifers at cost price :p.

    Bring on the box and cheque book Tim ,current crop of maidens averaging 257 ebi ,all genotyped .high solids ,milk and fertility .1700/2k plus accepted once scanned in calf at year end !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,791 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Timmaay wrote:
    Shut up Jay, lads like me and kev who are happy to keep minimum replacements need lads like MJ to keep knocking out replacement heifers at cost price .

    Perhaps with a bit of extra if they are in calf!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    Had alot of scoury calves over the whole of March and into April.
    Nothing died but alot of extra work .

    Had tried feeding yoghurt milk this spring but this wasn't preventing occurrence of scour.

    For a while every calf was getting it.
    Vet was saying that prob one of those things ,ecoli maybe.

    Ok hygiene is never perfect but not too bad .if a house wasn't washed prior to a new batch it was cleaned and limed at least.

    If an attempt to change my luck I stopped using the yogmilk because it was torture to get the off form lads to drink it (cold ,sour etc).

    The big bang came with the first non yog batch and they scoured badly with some ending up under lights and getting treated for a secondary pneumonia.

    Vet was more inclined to sample these ones having seen their state first hand.
    He used the dip stick test on farm and said that none of the big diseases were present sticking to his line that if you had a real bad bug your losses would be high and the effect on calves greater .

    Problem is one of the samples came back positive for rotavirus.
    Now ive never had it on the farm before this .we would have had very little trouble rearing calves in general. Last few years a few run ins with scour but nothing major.

    From hearing lads talking at groups and that youd get the impression that rotavirus is a hellish thing to get in calves so thats whats confusing cos I got away reasonably ok.

    Im back feeding the yoghurt milk and things have settled down .
    Im wondering was the yoghurt keeping the worst of the effects at bay and in fact did I dodge a bullet .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Got roped in to go spreading fym.

    Why do I get caught for the shyte jobs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Got roped in to go spreading fym.

    Why do I get caught for the shyte jobs?
    Add your reply here.
    Could be worse, could be a 2 tonne side slinger with a load of twines in the heap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Got roped in to go spreading fym.

    Why do I get caught for the shyte jobs?

    V Irish looking sheds! I thought the french were fond of the timber stanchions


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Muckit wrote: »
    V Irish looking sheds! I thought the french were fond of the timber stanchions

    I've both.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    10/12week old weaned heifers which are out on grass full-time, I'm feeding them over a kg of glanbia calf blend 18%, but it's expensive enough per 25kg bag. What do the rest of yas feed the likes of them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Timmaay wrote: »
    10/12week old weaned heifers which are out on grass full-time, I'm feeding them over a kg of glanbia calf blend 18%, but it's expensive enough per 25kg bag. What do the rest of yas feed the likes of them?
    Add your reply here.
    Feeding a 19% heifer rearer nut here get it in bulk, 4 ton loads. When the rest of the spring ones are out and youngest ones are finishing the ration a bit better, hopefully by the end of this load ill get a coarse mix made up at similar p.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Timmaay wrote: »
    10/12week old weaned heifers which are out on grass full-time, I'm feeding them over a kg of glanbia calf blend 18%, but it's expensive enough per 25kg bag. What do the rest of yas feed the likes of them?

    0.75kg Soya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Dawggone wrote: »
    0.75kg Soya.

    Do they need that much protein when on grass? I was thinking the opposite, get a lower p high energy ration for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Do they need that much protein when on grass? I was thinking the opposite, get a lower p high energy ration for them.

    Calving at 21/22mts. Protein grows youngstock. Energy fattens them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Do they need that much protein when on grass? I was thinking the opposite, get a lower p high energy ration for them.

    P needed for frame growth ,going low p ,too much starch etc will give small fat ainmals.always feed an 18% p nut to heifer cslves throughout summer at 1 kg per head per day along with best grass .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    P needed for frame growth ,going low p ,too much starch etc will give small fat ainmals.always feed an 18% p nut to heifer cslves throughout summer at 1 kg per head per day along with best grass .

    Throughout the summer, at what stage do you change, and to what? We've always fed calves meal here during their 1st year but it's very ad hoc, 1/2 bucket/bag of meal ha, and buying the 5 25 bags at a ripoff price a time from Glanbia.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Throughout the summer, at what stage do you change, and to what? We've always fed calves meal here during their 1st year but it's very ad hoc, 1/2 bucket/bag of meal ha, and buying the 5 25 bags at a ripoff price a time from Glanbia.

    What price you actually paying for the 25 kg bag tim


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