Americans using our surnames as first names

ProudDUB · 28-04-2016 09:53PM

liam7831 wrote: »

I think Healy-Rea would be be good for a yank

Jesus, I had to read that twice there for a sec.....:eek:

ttenneb · 30-04-2016 12:21AM

Dave0301 wrote: »

OP, I just had a look around to find a f*ck to give about the point you've raised. . .nope, couldn't find one.

Sorry.

Don't be sorry. Be Happy.

ttenneb · 30-04-2016 12:27AM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I was saying the exact same thing to my good friend Gallagher Kawolski from New York but he said he hasn't come across it.

Any relation to Stanley?

ttenneb · 30-04-2016 12:30AM

ProudDUB wrote: »

Friend of mine in Utah has 4 daughters....McKenzie, Peyton, Regan & Chandler. (It sounds like a bloody law firm. :rolleyes: )

Little McKenzie is one of three McKenzie's in her class at school & they are all spelt differently.

I think the other 2 are McKenzee and McKenseigh. I mean FFS like....

It appears Utah has more than its share of McKenzie's.

ttenneb · 30-04-2016 12:41AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Well its a country with no indigenous population due to the natives being almost entirely wiped out. Names had to come from the immigrant populations..most being British, Irish ,French, German, Spanish , Portuguese and Italian.

Too true. But with so many easily pronounced Irish first names why hijack the surnames? The most painful Americanism is the corruption of Caitlin (with or without the fada). KateLynn!!!!!!!!!!

ttenneb · 30-04-2016 12:48AM

liam7831 wrote: »

I think Healy-Rae would be a good name for a yank

Can you imagine Healy-Rae Trump? The head of 'im. Frightening.

30-04-2016 01:20AM

liam7831 wrote: »

I think Healy-Rae would be a good name for a yank

You mean Heely-Ray? It actually sounds like it could catch on as a girls name

'Heely-Ray, git momma's pryin bar'

Richard Hillman · 30-04-2016 01:32AM

I know a girl called Riley. Riley Reid. She is an actress.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 30-04-2016 04:22AM

In reference to the OP a Stool pigeon is a rat. Tout or informer in Ireland. The type who tell tales to teacher(I'm sure we've all experienced this type of creature before), people who run to authority figures and betray their values, codes and bonds. People who are pathetic and of weak character

The best name I ever hear was Ice Cube's. O'Shea Jackson. Pure cool, he could have ran with that as his stage name.

bnt · 30-04-2016 07:10AM

I was going to mention the jazz pianist McCoy Tyner, but that's only his stage name - his full name is Alfred McCoy Tyner.

Disney are encouraging this, with articles like 40 Last Names That Make Really Cute First Names. "Hi, I'm Sullivan, and this is my daughter Delaney and her friend Beckett!"

galljga1 · 30-04-2016 07:21AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Well its a country with no indigenous population due to the natives being almost entirely wiped out. Names had to come from the immigrant populations..most being British, Irish ,French, German, Spanish , Portuguese and Italian.

Two Dogs O' Toole?

30-04-2016 08:09AM

ttenneb wrote: »

America... hyjacking our Irish surnames and using them for first names. First was Ryan, then Kelly, Bradley, Casey, Carey, Doyle...

First, they are all obviously English surnames, just as John, Patrick, Robert, David are also commonly described as "English names" despite their origins in a non-English language. Why make exceptions when describing English versions of Irish names?

Second, given that *all* actual Irish surnames are derived from first names yours is a very strange complaint. The Ó (grandson of) and Mac (son of) prefixes indicate this very clearly. Ceallach Ó Ceallaigh, Diarmaid Mac Diarmada, Brian Ó Briain, Dónall Ó Dónaill, Conall Ó Conaill, Seán Mac Seáin, Giollaphádraig Mac Giolla Phádraig...

Boom_Bap · 30-04-2016 08:38AM

I've got lots of customers in Africa, a large percentage of them call me by my surname thinking it's my first name. I've stopped trying to correct them at this stage and have accepted that in some regions of Africa I don't have a surname.

The Young Wan · 30-04-2016 08:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

First, they are all obviously English surnames, just as John, Patrick, Robert, David are also commonly described as "English names" despite their origins in a non-English language. Why make exceptions when describing English versions of Irish names?

Second, given that *all* actual Irish surnames are derived from first names yours is a very strange complaint. The Ó (grandson of) and Mac (son of) prefixes indicate this very clearly. Ceallach Ó Ceallaigh, Diarmaid Mac Diarmada, Brian Ó Briain, Dónall Ó Dónaill, Conall Ó Conaill, Seán Mac Seáin, Giollaphádraig Mac Giolla Phádraig...

Casey, i am almost certain, is of Irish origin.

Lavinia · 30-04-2016 01:59PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I've got lots of customers in Africa, a large percentage of them call me by my surname thinking it's my first name. I've stopped trying to correct them at this stage and have accepted that in some regions of Africa I don't have a surname.

Between Boom and Bap I wouldn't know to say which is which either :pac:

alta stare · 30-04-2016 02:05PM

Ah to be fair the Americans are not the only ones who come up with odd name choices, like who the hell calls their child Tiernan Tierney :-o I tell ya who......well I won't I'll just say I know some who does. BTW I think Quinn would be a lovely first name on a girl

30-04-2016 02:10PM

alta stare wrote: »

Ah to be fair the Americans are not the only ones who come up with odd name choices, like who the hell calls their child Tiernan Tierney :-o I tell ya who......well I won't I'll just say I know some who does. BTW I think Quinn would be a lovely first name on a girl

It'd be Mighty, so it would.

OP Irish people have long been using surnames as first names. eg Shelly, Kelly, Ryan, etc.

Eugene Norman · 30-04-2016 02:12PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

First, they are all obviously English surnames, just as John, Patrick, Robert, David are also commonly described as "English names" despite their origins in a non-English language. Why make exceptions when describing English versions of Irish names?

Second, given that *all* actual Irish surnames are derived from first names yours is a very strange complaint. The Ó (grandson of) and Mac (son of) prefixes indicate this very clearly. Ceallach Ó Ceallaigh, Diarmaid Mac Diarmada, Brian Ó Briain, Dónall Ó Dónaill, Conall Ó Conaill, Seán Mac Seáin, Giollaphádraig Mac Giolla Phádraig...

That's a good point. Well the second point is.

I'd call John a Hebrew originated name. There are few Anglo Saxon originated names. I think Edward is one.

Eugene Norman · 30-04-2016 02:14PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It'd be Mighty, so it would.

OP Irish people have long been using surnames as first names. eg Shelly, Kelly, Ryan, etc.

As fuaranach pointed out all Irish surnames were originated from first names.

Gwynplaine · 30-04-2016 02:51PM

Wexford GAA man and his name is Redmond Barry. Surely someone filled out the birth cert incorrectly.

maudgonner · 30-04-2016 03:09PM

Gwynplaine wrote: »

Wexford GAA man and his name is Redmond Barry. Surely someone filled out the birth cert incorrectly.

Redmond Barry is the name of the title character in the film (& book it's based on) Barry Lyndon.

Also the judge that sentenced Ned Kelly to death. So it's not unusual and might be inspired by one of these.

gizmo555 · 30-04-2016 03:13PM

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Americans using our surnames as first names

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