Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

CatFromHue · 26-04-2016 02:27AM

Nathan Diaz ‏@NateDiaz209 52m52 minutes ago

Happy to announce that I'm going on vacation #gone #100 ✌&#55356;&#57340;️

Guess that's that that so

Lukker- · 26-04-2016 02:43AM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Guess that's that that so

Dana is after saying in an interview that Conor could fight as soon as UFC201 which is in August. Looks like Diaz is gonna sit 200 out and fight him then.

Allows the UFC top brass to appear to take a hard line on Conor but still book the planned fight at the earliest available date.

UFC 200 is going to be Jon Jones vs DC pending DC getting cleared by an MRI in 2 weeks.

He'll most likely fight the winner of Edgar/Aldo in New York at 205 if he's a good little boy between now and then, if not as Kavanagh said it's the bold step until 206 probably.

bajer101 · 26-04-2016 02:56AM

.ak wrote: »

It's genius if I'm being honest. The only thing UFC could do was bring bad news again OR say the fight is on. Dana has more egg on his face. It's genius IMO but a dangerous game.

jones 19 · 26-04-2016 07:20AM

Cathy.C wrote: »

A vegan God?

Seriously though, Nate didn't make Conor tap as there was no ground fight in that second round. People that want to extoll the virtues of Nate Diaz, with regards to that fight at least, should just stick to how he actually won the fight and that was obviously on his feet. When Conor went to a ground to avoid getting KO'd, Christy Brown could have choked him out with his left foot.

Funny how you don't hear so much being said about Nate's ground game in the first round though. Where in it Nate grabbed Conor's leg from a kick and grappled him to the canvas. Wouldn't happen to be because from that position Conor had very little trouble flipping Nate over onto his back and then spending the closing moments of that round reigning punches down on him.

One of the reasons I want this rematch to happen at UFC 200 is because of how easily I think Conor will beat Nate. Assuming of course he corrects the glaring errors which contributed to him gassing out of course, which were mostly all made early in the 2nd round when it was quite clear that he thought he had the fight won: showboating, taking punches he could have easily avoided, wasting energy with nowhere spin kicks etc.

But then Conor did always say he would like to fight himself. In the 2nd round of the Diaz fight I think he did, and he lost.

He did what, 2 spin kicks, hardly a drain of energy in the scheme of things. He's avoiding diaz and Dana could be in on it.

Mellor · 26-04-2016 08:15AM

jones 19 wrote: »

He did what, 2 spin kicks, hardly a drain of energy in the scheme of things. He's avoiding diaz and Dana could be in on it.

So Conor was the only person who pushed for the rematch. If he wanted to avoid him he should have just not asked for it.

jones 19 · 26-04-2016 08:37AM

Mellor wrote: »

So Conor was the only person who pushed for the rematch. If he wanted to avoid him he should have just not asked for it.

As conor said countless times he runs the show. He was way ahead of himself calling a rematch, but after his first UFC loss he panicked and called a rematch, now some time on he has been told and realised he's goosed if he goes near Diaz after a 3 month camp with no belt on the line. I don't think he'll ever fight Diaz again unfortunately.

.ak · 26-04-2016 08:37AM

bajer101 wrote: »

Nice reference.

Now prepare to die.

I guess all sorts of words are used lightly these days. I do think he's a bit of a genius in regards to how he approaches these situations though.

Doesn't mean I'm comparing him to DaVinci...

SpaceCowb0y · 26-04-2016 08:43AM

Nothing about this situation is smart, or genius. It's annoying as hell is what it is. I respect Conor for not wanting to commit to all the promo work and to focus on the fight itself but he has lapped it up in the past and knows what comes with the territory.

He's one of if not THE highest paid fighter at the minute and the promo work is part and parcel with getting the big bucks for the big fights. Yes he's made a ton of money for the UFC already but he did push hard for this fight with Diaz and as someone who went over to Vegas to watch him last year I know how expensive it is and I'd side more with the fans who have coughed up for flights and hotels this time around only now to find out he won't be there to watch! That trip is not cheap!

To call this carry on genius is a slap in the face to all those who have already coughed up and the uncertainty they now have over what's going to happen.

JustShon · 26-04-2016 08:48AM

All this he's on the card, he's off the card, he's on the card again, no he's not. He's retired, he's not retired drama crap is making me lose interest.

It was interesting at first but now I'm just going to doubt the veracity of any "news" relating to Conor, especially if it's coming from Conor himself. Just couldn't be arsed trying to keep up with all the back and forth anymore.

26-04-2016 08:48AM

I like conor McGregor and I was an MMA fan long before him, I'll be an MMA fan long after em. I'm actually dying to see wonderboys next fight to be honest, I'mmore excited for that.

anyway, what an absolute mess he's made of emself now, and Kavanagh knows it too. It's a joke all this twitter shyte too. CmcG was never so shy of the camera since he was beaten, it's bull****.

we're all cutting each other up, defending and condoning 'em, it's hard to be truly objective when he's Irish but come on, this is a ****ing farce.

if he's made wait til 202 or even 204 as has been mentioned by white emself, then it's bad news. he needs a quick drop to 145 and a whopping unanimous victory scalp, end of story!!

Spudman_20000 · 26-04-2016 09:07AM

I think most people are sick and tired of all the drama at this point, and it has run its course anyway.

Conor played all the cards up his sleeve, including the card that explains how to play bridge, but it's quite clear the UFC are more than prepared to take some pain in order to avoid fighters dictating any terms.

What might be interesting now is to see how easily Conor falls back into line. He doesn't seem like the type to respond well to threats (i.e. you're not on 200 and you won't be on NYC either).

Cash is king I suppose, and maybe Conor toes the company line. Or maybe he goes on vacation with Nate. Or maybe in future Conor won't be so willing to save a card when an opponent pulls out or if he's carrying an injury himself.

Conor will have his eyes opened by this messy episode, he's seen the underbelly of the beast, and I'm not so sure the relationship with the UFC will quite be the same. He now should see he's still only an employee of a company and will never be on equal footing with the management.

Myrddin · 26-04-2016 09:09AM

Conor will fall into line I'm sure, but I reckon the next time there's a big card injury pull out, he mightn't be as quick to want to 'save the day'.

26-04-2016 09:12AM

I agree, I think he's starting to seem like a crank now!!

Like I said, he was always fond of the cameras when he had the mystique of an unblemished UFC record, now he's beaten in spectacular fashion and he's camera shy!! reduced to a ghost writer of hype and misinformation via social media!! call Joe rogan or something FFS, do a live link and clean it all up!!

.ak · 26-04-2016 09:16AM

The funny thing is all I'm hearing here is "it's annoying" "it's getting boring" "this isn't genius" etc etc but the truth of the matter is the amount of retweets and news time this story is getting is massive. McGregor knows exactly the sort of response he'd get, and whilst he may be pudding off some people the truth is he'll gain a thousand other followers. People are attracted to drama.

For me, assuming he's very aware of the sort of power he holds in that sense, makes his approach genius... Especially if he gets put on 201 with Diaz and that gets a bigger ppv number than 200 without having to do all the press crap.

weldoninhio · 26-04-2016 09:18AM

At least Nate has tweeted now that he's going on vacation. No matter what McGregor tweets now, that's taken the rug from under him.

His last tweet was bad form, it got his fans hopes up and then shattered them. No idea what he was thinking.

26-04-2016 09:30AM

.ak wrote: »

The funny thing is all I'm hearing here is "it's annoying" "it's getting boring" "this isn't genius" etc etc but the truth of the matter is the amount of retweets and news time this story is getting is massive. McGregor knows exactly the sort of response he'd get, and whilst he may be pudding off some people the truth is he'll gain a thousand other followers. People are attracted to drama.

For me, assuming he's very aware of the sort of power he holds in that sense, makes his approach genius... Especially if he gets put on 201 with Diaz and that gets a bigger ppv number than 200 without having to do all the press crap.

ha ha "Pudding off" is that a serious attempt at writing an american / D4 accent?? :rolleyes:

anyway, Kim kardashian tweets all the time, absolute Shyte and yet it's retweeted etc, I wouldnt call her a genius. I judge em on content and it seems like tripe in the last week. I agree with em wanting a break from the promo work but I you cannot have one without the other then such is life. What I take issue with is how this is being played out in the absence of verbal discourse!. he has not given one interview, verbal statement etc. I;m wondering is that because once he does, he cannot take it back? delete it let's say!!

Spudman_20000 · 26-04-2016 09:30AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

At least Nate has tweeted now that he's going on vacation. No matter what McGregor tweets now, that's taken the rug from under him.

His last tweet was bad form, it got his fans hopes up and then shattered them. No idea what he was thinking.

Yep, that tweet came off as desperate, like the last flailing arms of a drowning man. He had the momentum after that mess of Vegas 200 conference with Dana looking uncomfortable and 90% of questions being about Conor.

But that last tweet, getting people's hopes up, was a big misstep in my opinion.

MD1990 · 26-04-2016 10:26AM

.ak wrote: »

The funny thing is all I'm hearing here is "it's annoying" "it's getting boring" "this isn't genius" etc etc but the truth of the matter is the amount of retweets and news time this story is getting is massive. McGregor knows exactly the sort of response he'd get, and whilst he may be pudding off some people the truth is he'll gain a thousand other followers. People are attracted to drama.

For me, assuming he's very aware of the sort of power he holds in that sense, makes his approach genius... Especially if he gets put on 201 with Diaz and that gets a bigger ppv number than 200 without having to do all the press crap.

Your giving social media stats way too much importance. It's funny how McGregor's talk about money & numbers etc has transfered over to his fans defending every lie he has said with but its getting him more followers what a genius. As you said people might follow just for drama but are not actual fans of him.

johnpatrick81 · 26-04-2016 10:38AM

McGregor has lost buckets of my respect. The UFC have lost some of it too. The latest tweet just adds to the complete lack of respect he is recently displaying for his fans.

D!ck move, twice. He has a lot of explaining to do. But 200 is gone, so I hope all the fans that had planned to go to this to support him now realize he's too high risk and choose to forego his future fights.

A complete farce all round.

Turtyturd · 26-04-2016 10:47AM

jones 19 wrote: »

As conor said countless times he runs the show. He was way ahead of himself calling a rematch, but after his first UFC loss he panicked and called a rematch, now some time on he has been told and realised he's goosed if he goes near Diaz after a 3 month camp with no belt on the line. I don't think he'll ever fight Diaz again unfortunately.

He will fight him a couple of years down the line I reckon. Diaz will always be a mediocre fighter hovering around the same position so when McGregor's star is fading away they'll use the rematch to squeeze the last bit of money from him.

Swashbuckler · 26-04-2016 11:15AM

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

McGregor has lost buckets of my respect. The UFC have lost some of it too. The latest tweet just adds to the complete lack of respect he is recently displaying for his fans.

D!ck move, twice. He has a lot of explaining to do. But 200 is gone, so I hope all the fans that had planned to go to this to support him now realize he's too high risk and choose to forego his future fights.

A complete farce all round.

Whatever about the whole farce of the last two weeks and the tweets, to suggest McGregor is high risk is unfair. Ask the number of people that booked flights to see him fight Aldo and RDA. He took late notice fights both times. One of those times was after a serious injury in camp. If I remember correctly Cole Miller was replaced by Brandao around 5 weeks out from that scheduled fight too.

yourdeadwright · 26-04-2016 11:35AM

Lets be honest he looks like a clown now,
And all this i'm on a level playing field with The UFC nonsense he talked, 2 or 3 fights down the line McGregor will be mid card old news and UFC will have a new star face,
If he has to fight Frankie next the whole McGregor show will be soon over,

markcahill1985 · 26-04-2016 11:50AM

I am a very big Conor fan and have defended him to everyone who will listen, just cant understand the last tweet, maybe trying to force the hand of Dana and Lorenzo but he looks a fool not it has got no response going on 36 hours later... Hope it is Frankie next for him now, would fancy him in that fight much more over a rematch with Diaz.

lougal88 · 26-04-2016 12:01PM

markcahill1985 wrote: »

I am a very big Conor fan and have defended him to everyone who will listen, just cant understand the last tweet, maybe trying to force the hand of Dana and Lorenzo but he looks a fool not it has got no response going on 36 hours later... Hope it is Frankie next for him now, would fancy him in that fight much more over a rematch with Diaz.

Well at least you've seen some sense. Some fans would defend Conor even if he goes full WWE and calls his fans idiots.

I agree that he looks a fool now. Obviously he was piggy-backing on the failed press conference on Friday where Dana was being booed for not wavering on getting Conor back on the card. I actually dislike Dana a lot, but after how he and the UFC have handled this situation I have a bit more respect for him. They have stuck to their guns.

If I had been a Conor fan before this week, I certainly would not be a fan now. I imagine there was a lot of excitement after his "I'm back on the card" tweet.

Mellor · 26-04-2016 12:15PM

lougal88 wrote: »

If I had been a Conor fan before this week, I certainly would not be a fan now. I imagine there was a lot of excitement after his "I'm back on the card" tweet.

I was a Conor fan before all of this, and I'm still a fan now. I didn't get too excited over his tweet, nor the retirement tweet either. I thought both were pretty transparent tbh.

Anybody having a bit of a sulk because they got their hope up should probably not believe everything they read online. And maybe try a wider view of the sport.
The people who appear most bother are the ones who only turn up to post in McGregor threads. If that's the only aspect they care about, I can understand their distress.

eddie73 · 26-04-2016 12:29PM

Conor has gone way out of his depth on this one. I think that he doesn't understand the dice that he was rolling. The fact that he even tweeted without Kavanagh knowing (his last one), sums up how random his whole strategy panned out. He is taking pot shots at nothing now.

On a positive note, I can see him fighting soon after ufc 200. I think that the whole diaz thing should be shelved now, as the wow factor has gone out of it. It would be like a rash returning if the fight were to be rescheduled. Diaz has been unlucky to lose a big pay day like this.

lougal88 · 26-04-2016 12:32PM

Mellor wrote: »

lougal88 wrote: »

If I had been a Conor fan before this week, I certainly would not be a fan now. I imagine there was a lot of excitement after his "I'm back on the card" tweet.

I was a Conor fan before all of this, and I'm still a fan now. I didn't get too excited over his tweet, nor the retirement tweet either. I thought both were pretty transparent tbh.

Anybody having a bit of a sulk because they got their hope up should probably not believe everything they read online. And maybe try a wider view of the sport.
The people who appear most bother are the ones who only turn up to post in McGregor threads. If that's the only aspect they care about, I can understand their distress.

Yeah well kind of backs up my first point that no matter what he does most fans will still back him. I'd be pretty annoyed. You can say his tweets were transparent but why even post them in the first place? I haven't seen a good enough reason from anybody yet as to why he was trying to bait people on Twitter. From reactions I've seen you are definitely in the minority of people who took what he said with a pinch of salt.
It's not just "what they read online", it's from the horse's mouth. Wasn't a journalist trying to click bait. It was McGregor self-promoting. IMO it was pretty desperate.

newballsplease · 26-04-2016 12:40PM

I think a lot of credit has to go to the UFC and Dana.
It shows that there isn't any fighter bigger than the company. They didn't fold to any demand made of them.
If they turned around and bent over for Conor on this then who knows how many other fighter would chance their arm with crazy demands or whatever else they choose.

stephenl15 · 26-04-2016 12:42PM

Gotta agree with Mellor. People saying he's letting the fans down also. How? I'm disappointed he won't be fighting but I definitely don't feel let down. It's ages from the fight and tickets aren't even out yet. I made sure I had tickets to Aldo fight before booking flights. Given the nature of the sport it makes sense to take every precaution possible.

They also don't seem to realise that Conor has took numerous last minute fights, citing not wanting to let the fans down as one of the reasons, as well as never forgetting to thank them after fights, blown away by the support etc. Don't think i've ever heard of him turning down a picture with someone either and that's a lot of pictures! A girl who works at a restaurant himself and Queely go to often couldn't speak more highly of him in this regard.

Regards the tweet, don't see anything wrong with it. How could a simple thing like that annoy you? I thought it was fairly obvious he wasn't back on the card. He's just looking for a reaction. More attention = more media artices = more viewers for his fights.

johnpatrick81 · 26-04-2016 12:48PM

stephenl15 wrote: »

Gotta agree with Mellor. People saying he's letting the fans down also. How? I'm disappointed he won't be fighting but I definitely don't feel let down. It's ages from the fight and tickets aren't even out yet. I made sure I had tickets to Aldo fight before booking flights. Given the nature of the sport it makes sense to take every precaution possible.

I agree, knowing the iffy nature, I'd never commit to a big trip, flights etc. Injuries alone make it too risky. However, I am sure people have. Even if 1 of his fans has their flights booked, McGregor is a d!ck IMO. This isn't injury. He signed up to the fight, fully aware of the press he was gonna have to do.

If he had an issue, he should have made it clear before agreeing to UFC200. Before the posters were printed, before fans may have purchased flights and accommodation.

Because he waited and tried a massively failed negotiation after everything was originally agreed, it stinks of a massive disrespect to those fans who've already made plans.

If nobody has in fact made plans, then all well and good.

Then finally this latest fake hope tweet. Even just for fans who want to see him on the card, it all stinks.

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