Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 MOD NOTE POST 1*

Dan Chipowski · 23-04-2016 10:04AM

Thank God the club hurling is back.

Hard to call things at this stage, plenty of clubs with players missing through injuries and being away etc....

I'd fancy Mullinavat to see off Danesfort in today's game.

Elsewhere I'd fancy The Bridge to beat the Village whose main men won't be fully match fit.

Cornerback1 · 24-04-2016 10:04PM

Anybody have any standouts from club matches over week-end?

Hopefully no more injuries picked up!!!

droppingball · 24-04-2016 10:12PM

Went to the clara shamrocks game and Chris bolger scored 11 points with 6 of those from frees, was lively throughout. Decent game which clara deserved to win. All county players with exception of Michael Fennelly started and all came through without any injuries.

Was also at thomastown and dunamaggin match where jonjo farrell hurled very well for thomastown and seaghan o neill was main threat for dunamaggin, he was also very good on the frees.

blackcard · 24-04-2016 10:24PM

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Anybody have any standouts from club matches over week-end?

Hopefully no more injuries picked up!!!

Paul Murphy played for Danesfort who were well beaten by Mullinavat. Richie Hogan lined out in midfield, played okay, but not in the form he has been for the last two years. Kieran Joyce played well for the Rower. Eoin Larkin started for James Stephens and looked fit if a bit rusty. Jackie Tyrrell and Diarmuid Cody did not play nor did Robert Lennon

Cornerback1 · 24-04-2016 10:35PM

blackcard wrote: »

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Anybody have any standouts from club matches over week-end?

Hopefully no more injuries picked up!!!

Paul Murphy played for Danesfort who were well beaten by Mullinavat. Richie Hogan lined out in midfield, played okay, but not in the form he has been for the last two years. Kieran Joyce played well for the Rower. Eoin Larkin started for James Stephens and looked fit if a bit rusty. Jackie Tyrrell and Diarmuid Cody did not play nor did Robert Lennon

Add your reply here.

What's wrong with Diarmuid Cody?

Cornerback1 · 24-04-2016 10:37PM

droppingball wrote: »

Went to the clara shamrocks game and Chris bolger scored 11 points with 6 of those from frees, was lively throughout. Decent game which clara deserved to win. All county players with exception of Michael Fennelly started and all came through without any injuries.

Was also at thomastown and dunamaggin match where jonjo farrell hurled very well for thomastown and seaghan o neill was main threat for dunamaggin, he was also very good on the frees.

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I thought Bilger did ok when introduced V Clare..well game was well over but he got 2pts and looked more threatening in 10mins than others did in 60mins

How did Colin Fennelly play?

kk1970 · 24-04-2016 11:45PM

Cornerback1 wrote: »

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I thought Bilger did ok when introduced V Clare..well game was well over but he got 2pts and looked more threatening in 10mins than others did in 60mins

How did Colin Fennelly play?

kevin kelly standout player st patricks v conahy 11pts and was involved in most of the scoring plays

dastardly00 · 24-04-2016 11:50PM

Good start for the minors on Saturday in their quarter-final... Kilkenny 3-25 Offaly 1-13.

The other quarter-final result was:
Wexford 0-21, Dublin 1-14 (after extra time)

Second round results:
Laois 3-20, Carlow 0-9
Westmeath 1-17, Meath 0-15.

So Kilkenny and Wexford have progressed to the semi-finals.

But there will be another two quarter-final ties played next weekend:
Offaly v Westmeath
Laois v Dublin

jeff bingham · 25-04-2016 08:58AM

Got to a couple of matches. Mullinavat a good bit better than danesfort. Richie hogan subdued but still danesforts best player. Paul Murphy was clearly not right, kept pulling on the ball with 1 hand. Did give and take a few tough shoulders though! Mick malone's touch was slightly off but he was still a handfull. Willie dywer very good.

Shocks sluggish against lisdowney who fought harder and won nearly all breaking ball. John Power wasn't great. Rice was ok in spells. Looks to be getting back to full fitness but definitely seems to have lost a yard of pace. Lisdowney won by 7? In the end. The hickeys and phelans were all good.
A shocks player got married the weekend so that may have contributed but they are a club on the slide either way.

Thomastown also outfought dunna to win by a goal which was scored in 1st half by John Joe who played very well. Hard to pick too many standouts from dunnamaggin bar seaghan o Neill who was good. N hickey lucky not to be sent off. 2 donnellys in the forwards excellent for ttown.

jeff bingham · 25-04-2016 09:00AM

Was talking to an under 21 player over the weekend. 3 players kicked off the panel for drinking. 3 serious players as well. Not sure if I should name them on this though. As far as I know all players played well for clubs the weekend also

Cornerback1 · 25-04-2016 10:33AM

Better not mention any names, just in case.

Does that mean they are gone for the season you think?

PáircLife · 25-04-2016 10:47AM

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Better not mention any names, just in case.

Does that mean they are gone for the season you think?

No, they were dropped for a few weeks but 2 out of the 3 of them are back in training at the moment, seems it was just a harmless warning for them.

3 big players, would have expected all 3 to be near starting 15.

1 was even training with the seniors and has lost his chance with them - (for now anyway)!

jeff bingham · 25-04-2016 11:11AM

Ya it will probably serve as a warning for the rest of the panel now anyway.

Cornerback1 · 25-04-2016 11:42AM

Yeah, it'll keep them grounded alright.....hopefully.

droppingball · 25-04-2016 12:42PM

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Add your reply here.

I thought Bilger did ok when introduced V Clare..well game was well over but he got 2pts and looked more threatening in 10mins than others did in 60mins

How did Colin Fennelly play?

Colin Fennelly hurled reasonably well without doing much damage but he was moving at full tilt and was full of running. He started midfield with Henry and this is probably the reason he wasn't working the scoreboard but near the end of the game he went full forward when Shamrocks needed a goal but didn't receive much ball.

Chris Bolger received lovely low cross field ball which allowed him to do damage but he showed he can pick off a score and kept going even with one or two near misses. He was on to any breaking ball like lightening as well which is want you want from a poaching corner forward. Wasn't sure if he was up to the standard but after last week and Sundays game he is definitely worth a look, hopefully he can drive on a prove himself worthy of a starting place for Kilkenny.

Just on the Dunamaggin match Noel Hickey broke two hurls off Jonjo either side of Jonjos goal, one was an awful stroke and should have been sent off for it.

blackcard · 25-04-2016 01:02PM

dastardly00 wrote: »

Good start for the minors on Saturday in their quarter-final... Kilkenny 3-25 Offaly 1-13.

The other quarter-final result was:
Wexford 0-21, Dublin 1-14 (after extra time)

Second round results:
Laois 3-20, Carlow 0-9
Westmeath 1-17, Meath 0-15.

So Kilkenny and Wexford have progressed to the semi-finals.

But there will be another two quarter-final ties played next weekend:
Offaly v Westmeath
Laois v Dublin

I presume kk will be playing the winner of Laois v Dublin?

Noddy33 · 25-04-2016 01:57PM

The village if you ask me were very lucky to come away with a draw yesterday. After a blistering start and hurling well the first 20mins they seem to fall apart altogther as Bridge rallied back. The village 2nd and 3rd goal came from poor defending from bridge. Personally I thought the village full back line was very poor and struggled big time with the direct running of the brigde and kevin blanchfield was unlucky a couple times when running straight through the centre from deep to not finish up with a goal or two. The bridge missed a glorious goal chance with 2 mins to go that would have put them infront when Hugh O neill was through on goal and instead of given a simple pass to Kevin Blanchfield who was on his own six yards out but instead o'neill struck a shot that was a comfortable save for the goalie. The last free awarded to allow nicky cleere to level the game was probably harsh and certainly the village crew werent happy and after full time some of their players and management team let the referee know of there discontent. larkin looked fit but def still rusty while David Hennessy and Ray coady hurled well for village. Kevin Blanch and Brian Lannon showed up best for Bridge while Liam blanch was fairly quiet by his standards.The Bridge deserved a draw and over the full 60mins they were the better team and showed more potential while village will need all their county lads and Luke Scanlon back if any real serious ambitions to win anything this year

Stayed for second game but left at half time as it was really poor game and johnstown were desperate. Mick grace looked sharp from the bits I seen while Kieran Joyce seemed to be moving freely after Injury scare.

Dunna V Thomastown was decent battle and Ttown were deserved winners. John Joe hurled well and while John Donnelly was very good and his ball winning for a young lad at this level was top drawer. Thomastown are a very young team with a nice balanced look about them while Dunna need to find a proven goal scorer if want to be there at the business end of the season but I cant see that happening. Noel Hickey was lucky alright to finish the game as he had two wild pulls and broke timber both times!

dastardly00 · 25-04-2016 05:58PM

blackcard wrote: »

I presume kk will be playing the winner of Laois v Dublin?

I'm not entirely sure. You would assume so.

Although back in '14, Dublin beat Wexford in one of the early rounds of Leinster, and they met again in the Leinster semi-final.

randd1 · 25-04-2016 08:09PM

jeff bingham wrote: »

Was talking to an under 21 player over the weekend. 3 players kicked off the panel for drinking. 3 serious players as well. Not sure if I should name them on this though. As far as I know all players played well for clubs the weekend also

Unless it was a couple of days before a match, they got so drunk it took them a week to recover and it affected their training or this was a regular thing, then throwing lads off a panel for a few drinks is a bit much on my view, and will do nothing good for the panel.

I can understand it on the above scenarios, but if it was a one off then I would ask questions as to what we're doing to encourage lads to commit to the panel if it means they have no life.

One of the great things about Kilkenny has been our belief and trust in the players we have and treating them like men, and in return you got men. I'd hate to see us go down te route of treating players like kids to be scolded.

Realt Dearg Sec · 25-04-2016 08:33PM

randd1 wrote: »

Unless it was a couple of days before a match, they got so drunk it took them a week to recover and it affected their training or this was a regular thing, then throwing lads off a panel for a few drinks is a bit much on my view, and will do nothing good for the panel.

I can understand it on the above scenarios, but if it was a one off then I would ask questions as to what we're doing to encourage lads to commit to the panel if it means they have no life.

One of the great things about Kilkenny has been our belief and trust in the players we have and treating them like men, and in return you got men. I'd hate to see us go down te route of treating players like kids to be scolded.

To quote Brian Cody: "You say to me that there is more to life than hurling, Well if you want to carry on like a fella who is not an intercounty hurler well then there will be more to life than hurling. Lots more. But there won't be hurling. That's the reality of it."

We might think it's harsh, but the fact is there's plenty of lads willing to make the sacrifice he feels is necessary. If I was on one of those panels and making those sacrifices, I'd regard it as a matter of respect for your teammates, and would expect my teammates to make the same sacrifices as me. If they weren't, and they stayed on the panel, I'd be wondering why I'm making those sacrifices at all.

I know nothing about the specific case, but if they're told not to drink and then they drink, it would make a balls of the whole set up if they weren't kicked off the panel.

mountgomery burns · 25-04-2016 08:35PM

Kicked off the u21 panel, or the Senior panel?

Realt Dearg Sec · 25-04-2016 08:38PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Kicked off the u21 panel, or the Senior panel?

u21, although one of them was also removed from the seniors, according to the poster above. I'm not talking so much about Cody specifically, as the culture he's cultivated in the county set up at all levels.

jeff bingham · 25-04-2016 09:27PM

randd1 wrote:

Unless it was a couple of days before a match, they got so drunk it took them a week to recover and it affected their training or this was a regular thing, then throwing lads off a panel for a few drinks is a bit much on my view, and will do nothing good for the panel.

As far as I know they were specifically told no drinking that weekend so it was a stupid decision if so. They went to a quieter pub in town so as not to be seen.

Cornerback1 · 25-04-2016 09:37PM

jeff bingham wrote: »

randd1 wrote:

Unless it was a couple of days before a match, they got so drunk it took them a week to recover and it affected their training or this was a regular thing, then throwing lads off a panel for a few drinks is a bit much on my view, and will do nothing good for the panel.

As far as I know they were specifically told no drinking that weekend so it was a stupid decision if so. They went to a quieter pub in town so as not to be seen.

Bit strange going to a pub. Always a very good chance that they'd be spotted. Esp. with social media the way it is.

Re: Realt Dearg Sec's comment about Brian Cody. He's created the legacy now - up to the players to prove themselves. The thing is recently that Cody will still you a go at 26 or 29 whereas other countys think you are well past it at that stage. There's never too many 'young' lads on the senior panel regardless.

When you think the Cha and JJ were the only 2 promoted (i think..anybody help me????) from minors, that's tells the story.

citykat · 25-04-2016 09:53PM

Cornerback1 wrote: »

When you think the Cha and JJ were the only 2 promoted (i think..anybody help me????) from minors, that's tells the story.

Tommy?

citykat · 25-04-2016 10:11PM

Channelling my inner Mark Lawrenson, the only issue with three lads going on the piss is that the others weren't invited. It should be all out or non. Safety in numbers and that - cant drop the whole panel.
Personally feel a lot is being asked of lads at minor and U21 regarding lifestyle. Seems the fun element has been taken out and replaced by a puritanical emphasis. Think it must be hard for lads to commit when their friends are off enjoying themselves. Look at Galvin last summer and Glynn this year.

dirkmeister · 25-04-2016 10:52PM

citykat wrote: »

Tommy?

You're right...Willie O Dwyer was brought in straight away also.

Cornerback1 · 25-04-2016 10:58PM

citykat wrote: »

Cornerback1 wrote: »

When you think the Cha and JJ were the only 2 promoted (i think..anybody help me????) from minors, that's tells the story.

Tommy?

Add your reply here.

Was Tommy?

Cornerback1 · 25-04-2016 11:06PM

citykat wrote: »

Channelling my inner Mark Lawrenson, the only issue with three lads going on the piss is that the others weren't invited. It should be all out or non. Safety in numbers and that - cant drop the whole panel.
Personally feel a lot is being asked of lads at minor and U21 regarding lifestyle. Seems the fun element has been taken out and replaced by a puritanical emphasis. Think it must be hard for lads to commit when their friends are off enjoying themselves. Look at Galvin last summer and Glynn this year.

I think this year you are starting to see a bit of a sea change in terms of lads committing to county teams. Probably moreso in football though.

Once it starts, a few more will go and so forth. Lads will start going to America etc. Others will think it's not worth the hassle training 4 or 5 nights a week when they are 21...and all of a sudden they are 30. Their mates have a good job andhave travelled extensively while having a decent social life.

I think county gaa is failing a lot of lads. As you say Citykat, the fun element has gone. 3 football lads in Derry have left their panel - going to America over summer and come back in time for club c'ship.

PáircLife · 26-04-2016 11:23AM

Michael Rice dropped last night? Any truth to this do any of ye know? If so, maybe a few more got dropped with him?

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