Season 6 Episode 1 The Red Woman thread "Book readers"

Really excited for this, can't wait for 2am!

I never did like the Martells but fúck me that's a bit much...

Areo Hotah died to a dagger in the back? Yeah right.

Really enjoyed the episode otherwise, even with the weird ending.

J. Marston wrote: »

Areo Hotah died to a dagger in the back? Yeah right.

Really enjoyed the episode otherwise, even with the weird ending.

That was just stupid, Hotah is a tank of a man and some young wan just stabs him in the back and that's that?? I really like the Dornish masterplan theory but if it's not true then I'd be happy to see the end of Dorne.

And I assume that ending was to point out the significance of Melisandre's glamour. In every chapter Mel is in GRRM makes note of it so maybe it'll have some importance in this season? If would also explain why they killed Mance rather than follow the book's version of events. Seeing power like that twice would be too much...

At least Sansa has her father's sword (partially) back. Brienne swearing allegiance was the best part of the episode. Kinda makes me wonder about the title of one of the upcoming episodes though...

Guessing that the fleet burning leaves open the possibility that the Greyjoys will pretend to act as Mireens new navy?

Liam O wrote: »

Balon is still hanging on in the show isn't he? :pac:

At the moment ya, but he should be crossing that bridge soon :P

TheDoctor wrote: »

Banned

This is the book readers thread right?

Dorne, the Kingdom that held off Aegon The Conqueror and his kin for generations and was only brought into the seven kingdoms and under Targaryen rule by marriage.

A Kingdom not be messed with basically.

The show writers are cleaning house, its like they lost interest after they wrapped up The Storm Of Swords plotlines and just want this show done with now, and its suffering because of it.

That was underwhelming. Dorne, I don't know what the hell is going on. They should have just cut Dorne completely if this was their plan. Overall quality has dipped massively anytime they've moved away from the source material. It's still a good tv show, i'll still be watching and hoping for improvements.

Falthyron wrote: »

Did they? I don't remember something like that happening in the show, or am I forgetting something obvious?

Hardhome, Tormund dispatched him after arriving

wp_rathead wrote: »

Personally I thought it was one of the better opening episodes to a season
Everything at The Wall and in The North was very exciting imo

Wasn't it admitted last season that doing Dorne was almost a last minute decision written by one of the writers who does the History and Lore dvd extras?
Can really tell, I mean if the Dornish guards were on the side of the SandSnakes surely they would mutinied when Jamie was captured and killed him there rather than wait...
The show really did nothing with Aero which seems a waste

I never heard that before but it would explain a lot.

I know the filming was done by another team who were only new to the show at the time. Time constraints meant they were filming in multiple locations so didn't have their 'A' team in Seville. And it showed with the whole Zena-esque nature of the fights and ridiculousness of it. But surely it was still well planned and written about in advance???

The first mistake I made was to rewatch 5.10 last night. I'd almost forgotten about :"You want the good girl, but need the bad pussy" :pac: The dialog was quite clunky/out of place in this episode in places too I thought?

I enjoyed the episode I guess and there's a certain thrill to not knowing what's going to happen but I was complaining more than anything to myself throughout the episode.

The good first:
- The Melisandre scene at the end was interesting. I wonder where she's going to go from there. Or is she anyone of significance from history perhaps who found the Light?

- I could watch Davos all day. (Preferably with Wyman Manderly :P) Edd stepping up was good too. They've certainly left the warging into Ghost open, as unlikely as it is.

Ok that might be it.

Brienne is some woman for defeating swathes of fighters whilst being outnumbered. Fir a second I thought Lady S might have shown up in the forest but only for half a second. Where do they go from here? To the Wall in time for Jon I suppose?

Ramsey showing some sadness for the death of another human? Yeah right. I guess Stannis is dead then

The Dothraki stuff was good but that "banter" was awful. Would Jorah be aware of Vaes Dothraek being Dany's destination? Cersei and Jaime are friends again then I suppose? I wonder how long it'll take Arya's blind training to take and where she goes from there?

Meereen seems pretty peaceful for a city that was in open revolt almost. Tyrion and Varys together can only be good I suppose despite their surroundings.

Dorne. Jesus H. What's worse than butchering Dorne for an entire season? Actually butchering the one good/interesting thing about Dorne. Doran and Hotah. As if that knife would even pierce Hotah's skin, he's a tank of man :pac:

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I presume we have to see Bran next week? And Sam? I'm looking forward to those plots anyway. For an opening episode it was grand. We caught up with the characters and had one or two little surprises. I think it's more indifference I've had for the past year than anything else though for the show. I didn't read anything about the season at all beforehand.