Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

eddie73 · 21-04-2016 11:00PM

Looks like the fight is off for certain now.

Cathy.C · 21-04-2016 11:01PM

If Dana comes out and says Conor is still pulled from the card as there is no what he offered (re: NY press conference etc) was good enough then he won't be able to do a press conference between now and July 9th without Conor McGregor being all the interviewer wants to talk about. In effect, there will almost be more talk about Conor leading up to UFC 200 if isn't fighting, than if he is, and Dana will know that as he is very media savvy. It's almost a no win situation for them in away, with regards to how the come off looking I mean, as they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

My call would be that the fight will go ahead but that Dana will try and spin it so that it will appear as if Conor is now offering to do more media/promo stuff than he had initially offered. He may say he misunderstood John Kavanagh and thought that Conor wasn't willing to come to NY. Something along those lines. I just don't see him all of sudden agreeing to let Conor do what he wants as he won't want to appear to be giving in to his demands.

UFC 200 without Conor would be absurd. He's the biggest name in UFC right now and UFC 200 should be huge. It should be about the biggest names in UFC.

Both need to swallow humble pie but Dana swallows more is my call.

Lukker- · 21-04-2016 11:02PM

eddie73 wrote: »

Looks like the fight is off for certain now.

Where are you getting that from?

eddie73 · 21-04-2016 11:08PM

Joseph duffy to replace him to keep the irish fans happy?

That_Guy · 21-04-2016 11:13PM

eddie73 wrote: »

Joseph duffy to replace him to keep the irish fans happy?

If it's not Cathal Pendred I will wash my hands of MMA for good!!

newbbieb · 21-04-2016 11:15PM

Whatever way this plays out John Kavanagh was extremely naive to poke his nose into it.

Dana doesn't forget **** and he won't be favouring SBG fighters long term,he might keep some on to please Conor while Conor is still fighting but once Conor retires SBG won't be seeing many UFC fighters again imo.

That_Guy · 21-04-2016 11:18PM

newbbieb wrote: »

Whatever way this plays out John Kavanagh was extremely naive to poke his nose into it.

Dana doesn't forget **** and he won't be favouring SBG fighters long term,he might keep some on to please Conor while Conor is still fighting but once Conor retires SBG won't be seeing many UFC fighters again imo.

I doubt it tbh. As long as fighters keep performing they'll still be in the good books. They'll be around to fill up a watered down fight card in the 3 Arena anyway.

shane9689 · 21-04-2016 11:20PM

the Monopoly UFC has over the MMA scene is ridiculous anyways. Conor should end his contract and go fight for smaller European fight scenes and prop them up. Instead of supporting a fat american corp. that could give two ****s about fighting, its all money and drama now in UFC anyways. Just WWE but with slightly unpredictable fight results.

Wrongway1985 · 21-04-2016 11:24PM

newbbieb wrote: »

Whatever way this plays out John Kavanagh was extremely naive to poke his nose into it.

The Eminem stuff was well cringe

newbbieb · 21-04-2016 11:25PM

That_Guy wrote: »

I doubt it tbh. As long as fighters keep performing they'll still be in the good books. They'll be around to fill up a watered down fight card in the 3 Arena anyway.

I think if Dana could he would cut nearly all Jackson Wink fighters he doesn't like them and does that camp no favours,but the talentpool is so strong there the UFC have to play ball,a smaller camp like SBG would always struggle if Dana was against you.

Or to put it another way when your in his good books he can definitely contribute to building a decent camp by throwing them fights,lower end cardfilling fights.

I just think it was dumb on his part i mean whats to be gained for him,act professional and keep your nose out of it,trying to garner support to pressure the UFC just wasnt too smart.

ixus · 21-04-2016 11:29PM

If it is brinkmanship, and not all part of the show, a loss to Diaz if fight went ahead now would be a huge whack to McGregor brand. His actions are increasing the pressure on himself to win.

It's not smart psychologically. Even how he discusses his opponents physically superior attributes shows a psychological weakness. It has been an interesting shift.

Deadst4r · 21-04-2016 11:30PM

ixus wrote: »

If it is brinkmanship, and not all part of the show, a loss to Diaz if fight went ahead now would be a huge whack to McGregor brand. His actions are increasing the pressure on himself to win.

It's not smart psychologically. Even how he discusses his opponents physically superior attributes shows a psychological weakness. It has been an interesting shift.

This is true, but at least he seems to be taking the challenge seriously.

Deadst4r · 21-04-2016 11:49PM

Sorry if this has been posted already, I stopped following the thread.

Anyway, Schaub absolutely goes off in this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87q5d-inIBY

ardinn · 21-04-2016 11:56PM

I really like schaub - he's on joe rogan tonight if anyone is a fan of the podcast - the spend 25mins talking about sh1tting themselves though!!

StringerBell · 22-04-2016 12:14AM

Lukker- wrote: »

Where are you getting that from?

It was reported ages ago.

I see Jones has offered to headline it with his title fight against Cormier, that could certainly make the card.

Depp · 22-04-2016 12:17AM

StringerBell wrote: »

It was reported ages ago.

I see Jones has offered to headline it with his title fight against Cormier, that could certainly make the card.

only articles i saw cited tmz as a the source so id take it with a grain of salt, not holding my breath either

StringerBell · 22-04-2016 12:19AM

shane9689 wrote: »

the Monopoly UFC has over the MMA scene is ridiculous anyways. Conor should end his contract and go fight for smaller European fight scenes and prop them up. Instead of supporting a fat american corp. that could give two ****s about fighting, its all money and drama now in UFC anyways. Just WWE but with slightly unpredictable fight results.

McGregor's excellent fighting persona he cultivated helped create the drama and the WWE factor you speak about, and its all about the money to him to so why would he leave an organization he spent so long fighting to get in to?!

He has stated he will always be involved with Zuffa when fighting, he is extremely close to the top brass in the UFC, or at the very least he has been and has been indulged in pretty much every fancy that took his whim to this point.

Now thats not to say he didn't earn a little special indulgence now and then, he saved a couple of cards, he drew huge numbers, he got the job done. It is a relationship that is beneficial to both parties, a simple redrawing of the boundaries and power structure seems to be occurring.

We will see if he will fall in to line, I expect him to and to defend his title at UFC NY, I expect a way will be found for both parties to come out of this smiling, laughing, and cashing cheques.

Letree · 22-04-2016 12:29AM

I'm beginning to think this is all staged. They both wanted the mcgregor - diaz fight pulled. Its too risky a fight for conor to get beat twice by a journeyman.

kumate_champ07 · 22-04-2016 12:30AM

I feel bad for Diaz, does he get any money now? hopefully he gets something

martyos121 · 22-04-2016 12:36AM

Letree wrote: »

I'm beginning to think this is all staged. They both wanted the mcgregor - diaz fight pulled. Its too risky a fight for conor to get beat twice by a journeyman.

Nate Diaz a journeyman?

Can't even bring myself to laugh at that, it's just too ridiculous.

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StringerBell · 22-04-2016 12:37AM

Letree wrote: »

I'm beginning to think this is all staged. They both wanted the mcgregor - diaz fight pulled. Its too risky a fight for conor to get beat twice by a journeyman.

Well done, you managed to insult both men in one go there.

Not very likely its all staged either

ASOT · 22-04-2016 12:43AM

Letree wrote: »

I'm beginning to think this is all staged. They both wanted the mcgregor - diaz fight pulled. Its too risky a fight for conor to get beat twice by a journeyman.

This thread is like the gift that keeps giving...... If that gift was socks.

Letree · 22-04-2016 12:43AM

martyos121 wrote: »

Nate Diaz a journeyman?

Can't even bring myself to laugh at that, it's just too ridiculous.

He has never won a title and has 10 loses. He is a journeyman.

journeyman
ˈdʒəːnɪmən/Submit
noun
1.
a worker or sports player who is reliable but not outstanding.
"a solid journeyman professional"

Tox56 · 22-04-2016 12:43AM

ixus wrote: »

If it is brinkmanship, and not all part of the show, a loss to Diaz if fight went ahead now would be a huge whack to McGregor brand. His actions are increasing the pressure on himself to win.

It's not smart psychologically. Even how he discusses his opponents physically superior attributes shows a psychological weakness. It has been an interesting shift.

McGregor always increased the pressure on himself to ridiculous levels, and he seemed to perform best when he did that, if anything the Diaz fight was the least pressurised fight he had in the UFC, maybe with the exception of Siver.

Tox56 · 22-04-2016 12:46AM

Letree wrote: »

He has never won a title and has 10 loses. He is a journeyman.

journeyman
ˈdʒəːnɪmən/Submit
noun
1.
a worker or sports player who is reliable but not outstanding.
"a solid journeyman professional"

10 losses is really a meaningless statistic in isolation, that's only 3 more than Anderson fcuking silva

Letree · 22-04-2016 12:47AM

Tox56 wrote: »

10 losses is really a meaningless statistic in isolation, that's only 3 more than Anderson fcuking silva

Sliva won quite a few titles

Cathy.C · 22-04-2016 12:56AM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

I feel bad for Diaz, does he get any money now? hopefully he gets something

Can't see Nate not being part of UFC 200.

I'd say they'd bring in Robbie Lawler as that would make it a title fight.

12gauge dave · 22-04-2016 12:59AM

Can someone explain to me why the press tour is anymore difficult for him than Nate??

Depp · 22-04-2016 01:01AM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why the press tour is anymore difficult for him than Nate??

its in america

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