"O" surnames

FURET · 20-04-2016 04:26PM #1

Is it:

O'Connell
O Connell
O ' Connell?

For me it's O'Connell. I have cousins who spell it without the apostrophe and with a space between the O and the C. Irritates me.

And why don't airlines and internet text input fields recognize the apostrophe? In the early days of the internet I could understand, but 25 years later -- come on!

Ten of Swords · 20-04-2016 04:48PM

FURET wrote: »

I have cousins who spell is without the apostrophe and with a space between the O and the C.

The cheek,

I hope you've told them how they can and cannot spell their own names

20-04-2016 04:51PM

The answer is option 1. End of story.

maudgonner · 20-04-2016 04:52PM

Liam O wrote: »

The answer is option 1. End of story.

Bit rich coming from you, Liam O

:pac:

20-04-2016 05:00PM

Crap thread.

O'/ 10

annascott · 20-04-2016 05:00PM

Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...

astrofool · 20-04-2016 05:17PM

annascott wrote: »

Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...

"Of Connell" is technically correct, the best kind of correct.

jester77 · 20-04-2016 05:19PM

astrofool wrote: »

"Of Connell" is technically correct, the best kind of correct.

Exactly, enough of this hipster style dropping the f in favour of a '. Who do they thing they are fooling.

callaway92 · 20-04-2016 05:20PM

O' Connell

maudgonner · 20-04-2016 05:22PM

annascott wrote: »

Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...

Ah no. Then surely you'd have to drop De, del, de la, Fitz-, Kil- and Gil- prefixes as well.

Keep em all, I say!

Duckworth_Luas · 20-04-2016 05:23PM

annascott wrote: »

Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...

Why?

sKeith · 20-04-2016 05:23PM

°Connell

annascott · 20-04-2016 05:27PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Why?

too Oirish

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-04-2016 05:29PM

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Duckworth_Luas · 20-04-2016 05:31PM

annascott wrote: »

too Oirish

Oh FFS!

pm. · 20-04-2016 05:33PM

We dropped the O' for the soup kitchens ðŸ˜

Iwasfrozen · 20-04-2016 05:34PM

Patww79 wrote: »

Its the initials that bug me. If you're Tommy O'Connor then you're TO, not TOC.

Well, when I say it bugs me it doesn't all that much.

TO'C

maudgonner · 20-04-2016 05:38PM

annascott wrote: »

too Oirish

In that case we'll drop them once English surnames rid themselves of the -son suffix, and all other languages do the same.

Here's a list of the amendments that will need to be made.

ectoraige · 20-04-2016 05:40PM

What really gets me is people adding an "O'" when there isn't one. They see a surname like Rourke or Connell and automatically insert an O' at the start. Fecking bowsies.

Cortina_MK_IV · 20-04-2016 05:41PM

Anyone that uses options 2 or 3 are just spacers.

Iwasfrozen · 20-04-2016 05:50PM

maudgonner wrote: »

In that case we'll drop them once English surnames rid themselves of the -son suffix, and all other languages do the same.

Here's a list of the amendments that will need to be made.

I'm not defending the other poster's obviously tongue in cheek suggetion but the above makes no sense. Why would we need to wait for everyone else to do something before we do?

mcmoustache · 20-04-2016 05:51PM

FURET wrote: »

Is it:
O'Connell

O Connell

O ' Connell?

Neither. It's Ó Conaill

*runs*

20-04-2016 05:52PM

maudgonner wrote: »

Bit rich coming from you, Liam O

:pac:

Liam and Liamo were taken 7 years ago.

The space still annoys me to this day

maudgonner · 20-04-2016 05:57PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I'm not defending the other poster's obviously tongue in cheek suggetion but the above makes no sense. Why would we need to wait for everyone else to do something before we do?

The poster suggested that the reason for dropping prefixes was that they were 'too Oirish'.

I'm pointing out that many languages & countries of origin have equivalent prefixes & suffixes. It's far from unique to Ireland. Why should we drop them if others aren't? There would seem to be no justification for doing so, other than some imagined national embarrassment that the user is experiencing.

Iwasfrozen · 20-04-2016 06:08PM

maudgonner wrote: »

The poster suggested that the reason for dropping prefixes was that they were 'too Oirish'.

I'm pointing out that many languages & countries of origin have equivalent prefixes & suffixes. It's far from unique to Ireland. Why should we drop them if others aren't? There would seem to be no justification for doing so, other than some imagined national embarrassment that the user is experiencing.

I think he was taking the piss.

That they are culturally Irish I'm not disputing, I'm disputing your logic that we can only drop prefixes if every other country does it first. That makes no sense.

Esel · 20-04-2016 06:13PM

maudgonner wrote: »

In that case we'll drop them once English surnames rid themselves of the -son suffix, and all other languages do the same.

Here's a list of the amendments that will need to be made.

A few good prefixes from that list:

Bint

Da

Naka

Eugene Norman · 20-04-2016 07:04PM

annascott wrote: »

Perhaps it is time to drop all 'O', Mac, Mc etc...

The Kellys have already done this.

Arsemageddon · 20-04-2016 08:05PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

The Kellys have already done this.

This fella hasn't...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_O%27Kelly

...and even though he is an awful nice fella I wouldn't want to be the one to tell him he doesn't know how to spell his own name.

esforum · 20-04-2016 08:05PM

Patww79 wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

But then we wouldnt have such great nicknames as JOC, DOC or the infamous COC / KOC

maudgonner · 20-04-2016 09:44PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I think he was taking the piss.

That they are culturally Irish I'm not disputing, I'm disputing your logic that we can only drop prefixes if every other country does it first. That makes no sense.

It makes no sense to me to drop them at all.

Why do you feel that another poster can be tongue in cheek but my reply can't? I see a flaw in your logic too...

"O" surnames

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