Is standing up for children on public transport now the norm?

ScumLord · 14-04-2016 06:10PM

Really children should be kept in those cages for dogs underneath the bus in the luggage hold. I know they don't have luggage bays on city buses but maybe they could create some sort of harnesses so they could be hung from the overhead handrails?

fits · 14-04-2016 06:12PM

You just never know why people would need a seat. I had a bad time on Dublin buses after a knee operation some years ago.

Graham · 14-04-2016 06:17PM

They must be making children out of softer stuff these days. Growing up I distinctly remember signs on the bus along the lines of "Children travelling at a reduced fare should not occupy a seat if a full fare paying passenger is standing".

endofrainbow · 14-04-2016 06:18PM

simple solution - wait for the next bus that has available seats

fatknacker · 14-04-2016 06:20PM

Why stand when you can offer them your lap?

Iwasfrozen · 14-04-2016 06:39PM

Nope, chivalry is dead. Totally different for a young child but they should be in a pram anyway.

traprunner · 14-04-2016 06:48PM

I'm surprised the child wasn't covered in bubble wrap with their own entourage to press the bell for their stop, carry their school bag and the roll of red carpet for the little royal for stepping off the bus. Probably even one that has to lie down in puddles for the kid to step on instead of getting it's shoes wet. Mollycoddling....

MadDog76 · 14-04-2016 06:50PM

I know it's "cool" and "edgy" to hate kids these days but I'd give a child my seat ......... I don't know if every child, elderly person etc. actually needs my seat but I do know that I physically do not need the seat, so why not.

Cool/Funny After Hours Answer: Kids should be locked in a cage and strapped to the roof of the bus so that their stupid little faces don't irritate me!!! hahahahahahahaha :cool:

suicide_circus · 14-04-2016 07:22PM

OUT OF MY WAY IM THE FIRST PERSON EVER TO HAVE A CHILD

miezekatze · 14-04-2016 07:31PM

I've witnessed similar situations recently and found it really strange. I don't mind giving up my seat for someone who needs it, but I don't see why I should have to give up my seat for a healthy child. Yes, they may not like standing and sometimes give out about it, but that's the parents problem and not mine.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 14-04-2016 07:35PM

Years ago a woman asked me to move from my seat on the luas for her grandchild. I said no.

If a child is on crutches, in a cast, or looks like they need to sit down then they can have my seat.
If they're being lazy spoilt asses then no they can't have my seat because I'm also a lazy ass.

I'd rather give my seat to someone who actually needs it, than to someone who's used to being pandered to.

I get public transport every single morning and during the holidays there was many many parents and kids on the train, when there was elderly people standing. These kids were small enough to share seats/sit on parents lap but nope, the special snowflakes took up an entire seat and old people were left to stand.

I wouldn't hold out much hope for that generation getting up to let you sit down when you're old and decrepit

wokingvoter · 14-04-2016 07:38PM

Chickarooney wrote: »

Stand up
Baby stand up
Gimme your seat
Gimme gimme your seat
Gimme gimme
Stand up

Ta for the seat
I like your style
Ta for the seat
Stay for a while
Staaaaay
For a while!!

stinkle · 14-04-2016 07:46PM

Eh I was always made to give up my seat for an adult when I was a kid (primary school age, probably 6/7 and up). This was strongly enforced by my parents and grandmother. If I had to stand it was close to wherever they were also standing (possibly sitting in the case of granny), so they could keep an eye on me.

Graham · 14-04-2016 09:10PM

stinkle wrote: »

Eh I was always made to give up my seat for an adult when I was a kid (primary school age, probably 6/7 and up). This was strongly enforced by my parents and grandmother. If I had to stand it was close to wherever they were also standing (possibly sitting in the case of granny), so they could keep an eye on me.

Same here.

Toots · 14-04-2016 09:45PM

If a child was having difficulty standing, then I'd give them a seat, but not for just your average 10 year old who was perfectly well able to stand . At 10 I'd have been giving my seat up for older/pregnant people.

I took my 4 year old on the luas last week and told him that we might not get a seat or else have to give up our seats if someone else needed them. We were halfway into town and an elderly lady got on, so I lifted my son onto my knee so she could have the seat next to me. She was making her way over when this kid who was probably about 12 went to sit in it. I told him it was for the lady and he reluctantly got up and spent the rest of the journey giving me the evils. And before anyone says he might have been unable to stand, he managed to sprint up the platform and throw his bag in to stop the door closing without any difficulties, so I don't think standing for 6 or 7 stops would kill him.

Cienciano · 14-04-2016 10:04PM

A 10 year old can fúck right off. I was on a packed luas last week with 2 kids, one 4 year old, one 2. Big crowd of 8 skanger looking 15 year olds on the family seats, were really loud. But fair play to them, they offered us the seats

Kev W · 14-04-2016 10:20PM

JustShon wrote: »

You may be confusing children with chihuahuas. It's ok, I make that mistake sometimes too.

Chihuahuas are the cute ones.

Hope that helps.

bridgettedon · 14-04-2016 10:46PM

I have seen children go flying backwards while standing on the luas. To be fair the parents weren't paying enough attention to ensure they were holding on properly. It is extremely dangerous.

I wouldn't give up my seat for anyone without a good reason.

Dyr · 14-04-2016 11:10PM

Compromise...tell her the kid can sit on your knee

tupenny · 14-04-2016 11:14PM

Hell no!!!! My 7 year old stands up for any adult. And up until about 5 I'd have her on my lap if seats were short.
And ya know what she'd probably rather stand for the lols

Dyr · 14-04-2016 11:24PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

OUT OF MY WAY IM THE FIRST PERSON EVER TO HAVE A CHILD

this is pretty much every hipster parent in dublin now. They come rolling up the stairs with their precious artisan, hand crafted sprogs ( name Teddy and Pearl or some such ****e) then you have to listen to the little twerps going "mommy, mommy" until you finally go to get off the bus only to find the whole repugnant clan are getting off at the same stop so they're crouched at the top of the stairs like paratroopers about to jump out of a plane with mommy going "No Pearl, we're not going down the stairs until the man stops the bus"

Is that right? Move ta f**k ya clowns :mad:

Pinch Flat · 14-04-2016 11:47PM

I was travelling into Dublin for the 1916 commemoration parade on a packed bus and gave my seat to a young boy and girl, perhaps 6/7, who squashed into the one seat. they were being thrown around by the bus. I'm a middle aged adult, with my own child, so didn't see the issue.

I'm amazed how precious people are abou their seats - normally it's a relatively short hop, not a journey like the trans Siberian railway.

endacl · 14-04-2016 11:51PM

JustShon wrote: »

You may be confusing children with chihuahuas. It's ok, I make that mistake sometimes too.

Yappy little feckers?

Neyite · 15-04-2016 12:21AM

Evelyn Short Pidgin wrote: »

I was driving tractors when I was 8, I'd laugh if someone asked me to stand up for their child (who was well able to walk) and settle into my seat even more. Totally different if it was a mother or father carrying a small child etc.

Luckily as I very very rarely use public transport its not an issue I see myself having.

As soon as my child is old enough to stand holding on to a bar, then he will give up his seat too. Because he's able bodied, and its a kind thing to do.

We have to watch out for hidden disabilites though. You've said you'd sit in your seat and laugh if a child who could walk needed it but what if that child was January's child? I've met that little sweetie and you would not know she has physical difficulties. And a lot of people are like this. So If someone asked me for my seat, and seemed able bodied, I'd assume a hidden disability or that they are currently in some sort of pain.
Worst case scenario, I'm kind to a chancer. Meh. 5 stops down the line I'll get my seat back again.

suicide_circus wrote: »

OUT OF MY WAY IM THE FIRST PERSON EVER TO HAVE A CHILD

...THAT I PUSHED OUT OF MY VAGINA WITHOUT PAIN RELIEF,. DID I MENTION THAT I HAD NO PAIN RELIEF ON POPPY? AND SHE IS TWELVE AND WE ARE DOING EXTENDED BREASTFEEDING AMINTIGREATALTOGETHER.

GaryTLynch · 15-04-2016 12:52AM

From as early as I can remember being on public transport as a kid, I always offered my seat to an elderly, disabled or pregnant passenger if none were available for them. It's how I was raised and I wouldn't have had it any other way. Plus, I can't say I ever had any trouble with the simple task of holding onto a bar to keep myself steady. Able bodied kids these days must be incredibly stupid or extremely unlucky if they're unable to safely stand on a bus.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-04-2016 12:55AM

"Ma'am, I'm not allowed to be withing 20 fee of a child, by order of the courts - I'm required to advise you. You may wish to alight at the next station and await the following carraige."

15-04-2016 12:55AM

Neyite wrote: »

As soon as my child is old enough to stand holding on to a bar, then he will give up his seat too. Because he's able bodied, and its a kind thing to do.

We have to watch out for hidden disabilites though. You've said you'd sit in your seat and laugh if a child who could walk needed it but what if that child was January's child? I've met that little sweetie and you would not know she has physical difficulties. And a lot of people are like this. So If someone asked me for my seat, and seemed able bodied, I'd assume a hidden disability or that they are currently in some sort of pain.
Worst case scenario, I'm kind to a chancer. Meh. 5 stops down the line I'll get my seat back again.

If the parent wants to explain to me why their child should have a seat let them by all means and I will judge if its a good enough reason or not.

PistolsAtDawn · 15-04-2016 12:56AM

I do what I want.

FizzleSticks · 15-04-2016 02:06AM

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PandaPoo · 15-04-2016 05:58AM

My son has cerebral palsy and is always wobbly on buses, he's 6. Nobody has ever offered him a seat and I never thought anything of it. I did have a comment from a lady once, she said I shouldn't let him mess like that on the bus or he could hurt himself. He was holding on to the bar, I was holding on to him but he was still unsteady on his feet. Wagon.

Is standing up for children on public transport now the norm?

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