Ivan Yates

foxtrot101 · 07-04-2016 02:27AM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I think the pension is in the control of the bank, and from what I remember, when his mother dies, they take the family home and farm. In which she has "her day".
So not like it's all rosy in the garden, and a jolly jaunt abroad.
Not too many would like to swop places with that....

No, I think the pension is one thing that can't be touched.

take everything · 07-04-2016 04:18AM

I can't understand how people think Yates is/was a good media commentator.
Anything he writes in the Indo or says on Newstalk (the banks etc) is very often coloured by his own experience with the banks. And he doesn't even mention this conflict of interest when commenting.

Superhorse · 07-04-2016 06:59AM

Kristopherus wrote: »

He has a big fat ministerial pension to support him and spouse. Then he lands at Newstalk on a €100k +salary. For a man that preached morals during his life, he came up very short on that score when his business blew up. All he was concerned with was how fast he could get out of the country.

And left the taxpayer on the hook whilst preaching to us from his desk in newstalk about austerity etc... Won't be missed.

baldbear · 07-04-2016 07:09AM

mansize wrote: »

Debts to AIB to be written off- that's more costs to the Irish Taxpayers

Aib received a huge bailout so why should Yates not get a deal? He's losing his family home too so they are bot exactly getting away scot free.

The banks wanted to make an example of Ivan Yates a high profile individual and its backfired.

Baron Kurtz · 07-04-2016 08:46AM

Loving the Irish Ferries ads on this thread:)

VinLieger · 07-04-2016 09:00AM

take everything wrote: »

I can't understand how people think Yates is/was a good media commentator.
Anything he writes in the Indo or says on Newstalk (the banks etc) is very often coloured by his own experience with the banks. And he doesn't even mention this conflict of interest when commenting.

In fairness he's hardly made it a secret though either hes been consistently vocal about how he was treated by AIB.

Also looks like I was wrong earlier in the thread as hes denied the health reasons however going through the articles about the ruling I still don't see how this has anything to do with tax or liability as the banks pretty much own all of his and the wifes assets already, this ruling just cements the ownership.

mattser · 07-04-2016 09:10AM

Kristopherus wrote: »

He has a big fat ministerial pension to support him and spouse. Then he lands at Newstalk on a €100k +salary. For a man that preached morals during his life, he came up very short on that score when his business blew up. All he was concerned with was how fast he could get out of the country.

These select few in our TV and Radio should be put on tenure. 3 or 4 years, and away you go.

Make way for some of our brightest new talent instead of exiling them.

The elite have had it good for too long. Some, for a few hours a week.

For Forks Sake · 07-04-2016 09:28AM

From a quick scan of comments both here and elsewhere, there are a lot of people could do with educating themselves on what bankruptcy entails in advance, during, and afterwards.

Keyzer · 07-04-2016 09:29AM

His political commentary is good (and as you would expect given his prior experience).

That said, his off the cuff comments, arrogant nature and constant schoolyard antics with Chris are tiring and, at times, unprofessional.

fergiesfolly · 07-04-2016 09:30AM

He mentioned on his radio programme this morning that he won't be going to Wales again.
No other details were requested or offered.

I'm not his biggest fan, but I like his "dog with a bone" attitude when interviewing people. He's rarely fobbed off when asking the hard questions.

Allinall · 07-04-2016 09:49AM

greendom wrote: »

Far too opinionated for me. Really dislike his 'let me tell you how it is attitude'. Prefer my news to be delivered with a semblance of neutrality

Nice of you to give your opinion on how opinionated Yates is.

Ironic post is ironic.

HensVassal · 07-04-2016 09:55AM

Sand wrote: »

They were bailed out to be able to deal with bad debts so no more cost than already paid. I'd rather the money was used for that purpose rather than simply kept by the bank themselves.

They were bailed out to compensate the shareholders who stood to face a loss on their toxic gamble and that cost was passed onto the public.
You're only fooling yourself if you think there were altruistic reasons at play here. You've been robbed but don't want to face that fact.

seamus · 07-04-2016 09:58AM

Delighted to hear this. The guy is a relic of the 80s - coming out with the kind of sexist nonsense your embarrassing uncle does at a family gathering. Purported to speak with absolute authority on everything, despite clearly being thick as two planks. He was the main reason I stopped listening to newstalk, he was just so completely full of sh1t, all the time. A complete bore.

Between himself and Hook leaving, the airwaves will become altogether more pleasant and modern.

kneemos · 07-04-2016 10:02AM

Between himself and Hook leaving, the airwaves will become altogether more pleasant and modern.[/quote]

Bland you mean.

CFlat · 07-04-2016 10:06AM

seamus wrote: »

Delighted to hear this. The guy is a relic of the 80s - coming out with the kind of sexist nonsense your embarrassing uncle does at a family gathering. Purported to speak with absolute authority on everything, despite clearly being thick as two planks. He was the main reason I stopped listening to newstalk, he was just so completely full of sh1t, all the time. A complete bore.

Between himself and Hook leaving, the airwaves will become altogether more pleasant and modern.

If you mean 'modern' as in broadcasters like Chris Donoghue and Shane Coleman coming up through the ranks, I'll take Yates and Hook any day of the week and twice on a Sunday.

seamus · 07-04-2016 10:07AM

kneemos wrote: »

Bland you mean.

Spouting off your opinion on things you haven't a clue about doesn't make you interesting.

It makes you boring.

greendom · 07-04-2016 10:08AM

Allinall wrote: »

Nice of you to give your opinion on how opinionated Yates is.

Ironic post is ironic.

Well this is s forum for expressing one's opinion is it not. If Ivan were to post on here, spouting about Man City and the banks etc etc that would be fine.

I just don't like his opinion being stuffed down my throat when I want to hear the morning news.

Morning newsreaders should be impartial, or at least attempt to be.

07-04-2016 10:09AM

seamus wrote: »

Delighted to hear this. The guy is a relic of the 80s - coming out with the kind of sexist nonsense your embarrassing uncle does at a family gathering.

The sexist stuff was kinda quirky at the start, but got tiresome after a few weeks. It's now just...sad. I mean, every single story that involves women. Every one. You can almost hear the cogs whirring and clicking as he thinks of some "nudge nudge" type clunky line. He can't stop it. Imagine living with that every day. I wouldn't even mind if they were provocative, if it was some stance against feminism, they're just dull.

For Forks Sake · 07-04-2016 10:13AM

seamus wrote: »

Between himself and Hook leaving, the airwaves will become altogether more pleasant and modern.

Careful what you wish for, it will probably mean more Shane "Fianna Fail Uber Alles" Coleman...

HeidiHeidi · 07-04-2016 10:14AM

greendom wrote: »

Well this is s forum for expressing one's opinion is it not. If Ivan were to post on here, spouting about Man City and the banks etc etc that would be fine.

I just don't like his opinion being stuffed down my throat when I want to hear the morning news.

Morning newsreaders should be impartial, or at least attempt to be.

That would be fine if he were a newsreader, but he's not. He's the host of a morning chat show, it would be difficult (not to mention very boring) to try and do that without expressing an opinion one way or the other.

Having said that, I haven't listened to the Chris/Ivan show for years, the pair of them were borderline unlistenable-to for different reasons - I'll be delighted if there's a shake-up in that morning slot and there's a real alternative to Morning Ireland or (God help us all) Marty.

ThisRegard · 07-04-2016 10:14AM

greendom wrote: »

I just don't like his opinion being stuffed down my throat when I want to hear the morning news.

Morning newsreaders should be impartial, or at least attempt to be.

He's not a newsreader so there's your problem right there. The show is a magazine show, Morning Ireland is the show you're looking for.

kneemos · 07-04-2016 10:19AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

He's not a newsreader so there's your problem right there. The show is a magazine show, Morning Ireland is the show you're looking for.

Morning Ireland sounds like the presenters relatives have just died and it's being broadcast from the morgue.

greendom · 07-04-2016 10:20AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

He's not a newsreader so there's your problem right there. The show is a magazine show, Morning Ireland is the show you're looking for.

That's generally what I do listen to. Or Radio 4 to listen to how it really should be done!

ThisRegard · 07-04-2016 10:21AM

kneemos wrote: »

Morning Ireland sounds like the presenters relatives have just died and it's being broadcast from the morgue.

It's what the poster wants though.

greendom · 07-04-2016 10:24AM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

That would be fine if he were a newsreader, but he's not. He's the host of a morning chat show, it would be difficult (not to mention very boring) to try and do that without expressing an opinion one way or the other.

Having said that, I haven't listened to the Chris/Ivan show for years, the pair of them were borderline unlistenable-to for different reasons - I'll be delighted if there's a shake-up in that morning slot and there's a real alternative to Morning Ireland or (God help us all) Marty.

That's true. I think people with vested interests or experts that come on the show should be the opinion givers. Yates' role should be to interview and question from as neutral a position as he can. He's actually not too bad at interviewing I just don't want to hear his take on things.

uck51js9zml2yt · 07-04-2016 10:30AM

According to the Indo , he's going to the US for a year.

Eel the Kidd · 07-04-2016 11:03AM

Apparently he is leaving the country. Giving up his Newstalk post in July. Panama written all over it

VinLieger · 07-04-2016 11:40AM

Eel the Kidd wrote: »

Apparently he is leaving the country. Giving up his Newstalk post in July. Panama written all over it

Its really not but don't let that stop the bandwagoning

The airwaves will be a far less interesting place without the likes of him and hooky on them. Did I always agree with them? no but im not shallow enough to only be able to listen to people with opinions I agree with 100% of the time.

Part of having opinions is being able to be secure in them enough you can defend them and not just want to silence anyone who disagrees with you.

trishasaffron · 07-04-2016 11:47AM

Sorry to hear he is leaving. I'll have to find something else to listen to. Can't stand ORRTE and even R4 newsreaders have become unnecessarily aggressive and grandstanding in interviews - trying to make themselves and the interview the story rather than the issue.

Chris is such a sanctimonious bore - a throwback to the 50s but with new "right on" opinions welded on. Can't stand the way he allows no one to "die" any more it's always "pass on". I nearly threw up last week when he couldn't even say "the cat died"...........his cats "pass on". I wonder what other world they are passing on to?

timmy880 · 07-04-2016 12:00PM

Started listening to Newstalk regularly when I changed jobs and had to drive to work. Out of the 2, it's Donoghue who I found to be more annoying in the mornings and I've no idea why... I feel like I cant get his stupid "ah here Ivan" voice out of my head once he starts to speak.

Yates was decent, especially talking about politics etc. the stuff he has first hand experience from. Obviously his casual sexism and blunt support of City could make him hard to stomach at times and he was a proper bell for pissing off to Wales when he did but I think Newstalk will be less interesting without him.

As for travelling for a year with the missus.. Bankruptcy doesn't sound too bad at all

I can't even afford a weekend in London

Ivan Yates

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