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Something That Happened That Changed You Forever

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    I realised I wasn't hetero:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,911 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    I wasn't a popular kid in school. That wasn't to say I didn't have people to hang around with, I did, but it was the group of outcasts. I'm OK with that, but it knew the group I was in for what it was. I didn't have close friends though. I wasn't a hardcore nerd so I didn't fit in there, I didn't play football, so that was out, I like computer games, but I was the wrong side of the town to be able to casually walk over to the other kids who liked the same stuff. Again, it didn't bother me that much at the time, but looking back I was in such a rut it wasn't even funny. I was destined to be a neckbeard. The only different thing about me was I was in Scouts. And therein lies my story.

    I had been in Scouts since I was 5. I went through Beavers and Cubs, up til age 12. I joined the 12-16 Scout section. Again, I was a few years behind my peers socially, which grated. I was smarter than these kids, but I had no real belief in myself, and they were more mature than I was. I stuck it out until I was 15/16 but I was just punching a card.

    When I was 16 I went down to Kerry as part of Scout's PEAK event. 36 15-17 year olds down to learn navigation and mountain skills, split into patrols of six. Not only did I ace the skills part, and much more importantly, the other teenagers in my patrol liked me. The other lads in my room that we slept in liked me. I opened up a bit, and surprise surprise, I wasn't shot down. I was one of the most popular (even if I went a bit overboard looking back) kids there as part of a group and I kept friends from that trip from years to come.

    It gave me a confidence I never had before. I realised people could like me for who I am and I didn't have to hide myself. It was nothing special, but it meant the world to me.

    Anyways, yeah. 16 year olds. Next time you meet one, realise how ****ing important the ****-you-think-is-stupid is to them. They need it.

    [edit] Since I was 18, I've been a Scout leader for 10+ years, saved my troop from going under, and sent loads of kids on the trip I went on, and loads more (better) trips besides that. I'm not saying I love doing it, but I think those teenagers deserve the same chance I got so I'm going to do my best to give them it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    The end of my relationship with my ex. At the time I was utterly heartbroken and thought I'd never find happiness again. I pretty much rebuilt my life from scratch and have never been happier. He on the other hand has thrown himself into a premature midlife crisis, and I'm fairly certain he'll never let himself be truly happy. That just makes me sad for him.

    The second life-shaping event is still actually ongoing and fairly recent. Being diagnosed with MS at 28 last September knocked me for six, but it's been relativity plain sailing so far. I'm scared most days by what lies ahead, but it's shown me just how amazing (most of) my friends and family really are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    Hearing rage against the machine for the first time and no I didnt turn into a conspiracy theorist!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    The end of my relationship with my ex. At the time I was utterly heartbroken and thought I'd never find happiness again. I pretty much rebuilt my life from scratch and have never been happier. He on the other hand has thrown himself into a premature midlife crisis, and I'm fairly certain he'll never let himself be truly happy. That just makes me sad for him.

    The second life-shaping event is still actually ongoing and fairly recent. Being diagnosed with MS at 28 last September knocked me for six, but it's been relativity plain sailing so far. I'm scared most days by what lies ahead, but it's shown me just how amazing (most of) my friends and family really are.

    One of the things that strikes me about so many failed relationships is that they act like cutting the string of a balloon tied to a rock. You got to be the balloon :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Theres loads of influential moments, too many to mention


    The death of my little sister and its impact upon my mother and the way she brought us up

    Being bullied and miserable, hating going to school, dreading certain lessons and finally understanding one of lifes truisms, - people only have the power over you that you allow them to have. Once I realised what that meant, I blossomed, became a funny fecker, getting increasingly confident in myself, speaking my mind and not kowtowing to bullies(making mistakes along the way of course)

    Doing a careers questionnaire aged 16, the results were Social Worker (no thanks I couldn't deal with the emotion of that, absolute respect to anyone who can) Probation Officer (**** that), or a Psychologist (whats that?I wondered - went to the library to find out and stood browsing and reading psychology based texts for a couple of hours and found it fascinating) Went to uni to do a psychology degree and had a fantastic time, getting the balance of fun/work wrong.


    Failing 2/4 of my first year exams at uni was ok, I wasn't bothered really until I had to tell my grandfather (a man who'd had to walk a mile, row a mile and then walk another couple of miles to get to school every day, and had to leave school aged 12 when his father died and run the family farm, before eventually emigrating and starting a factory in London) Suddenly my lack of application to a huge opportunity and his disappointment in me had a galvanising effect on me and I didn't fail another exam in my time there.


    Doing a temp job as an admin assistant in a Training Department and loving it so much that I now train people for a living. Im so lucky to enjoy my job. Im genuinely thankful for that twist of fate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    I was in first year in secondary school in engineering. I was sitting beside my friend, at tables/benches we had. I was messing with a metal file when the teacher was talking. He noticed this as he walked passed and had a go at me for messing with it. I wasn't making noise though. He didn't just let me know I shouldn't have been messing with the file, he made a point of humiliating me in front of the class, made me look like I was a simpleton. I was stunned.

    The 'friend' who was sitting next to me looked me in the eyes and said 'god you went very red there'. I knew I was uncomfortable but I didn't know I was blushing, or even what blushing was.

    To this day, my fear of blushing has caused me many issues in my life. I'll never forget that incident of that teacher/bully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Having a brain injury and then the associated side effects from treatment.

    Made me apathetic, short tempered, have poor impulse control and close to no patience. Still find it very difficult to empathise with people to this day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭KikiDee


    Candie wrote: »
    I know this, it's how you start to measure yourself.

    "Am I the person they'd want me to be?"

    Yep...that's it exactly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Leaving a college course at Xmas in the 2nd year. I pretty much knew it wasn't the course I really wanted to do when I started it.
    Got through 1st year having failed 1 exam and passing the resit in August. Never really gave 1st year anywhere near 100% as it was, I thought I could get through it doing the bare minimum like school.
    My mam passed away in January before the Leaving and I thought I'd just put the effort into subjects I could bank points wise and then resit the Leaving next year. Never expected to get one of my Top 3 courses.
    Anyways, at Xmas I knew the course wasn't for me, told the Course Head I was done and went back through CEO and got my no #1 course in a different college.

    In the meantime, I had a cushy job in retail but my Dad made me leave and go work in a factory, as I thought I'd need to pay fees the next year. He figured that a shift work job would offer the best chance to get the cash quickly and use overtime to really get some good cash together. He also thought it would be completely out of my comfort zone and build character.

    He was completely right, I worked as General Operator on a production line, 12 hour shifts, 3 days a week. I hated it, don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with people that do it and I can see the benefits of a 3 day week, but the monotous regime was horrible. It finally gave me the kick up the backside I needed and hit the ground running in the new course (where I met my now wife) and has led to the job I'm in now and love.
    It really did build character and respect for doing a good job. The old man was dead right!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    razorblunt wrote: »
    It really did build character and respect for doing a good job. The old man was dead right!

    They always are!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    jungleman wrote: »
    They always are!

    Well, they are when they are. Another time something happened that changed my life forever was when my old therapist back in America, a very wise and insightful woman, put down her pen and said thoughtfully, "You know, your dad was a jerk". I swear it had never occurred to me until then that anything Daddy said about me might have been wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭Mozzeltoff


    Five years ago, I found out my then boyfriend and my best friend at the time were seeing each other behind my back. I took it very badly. I was all ready in a weird head space due to depression and anxiety and this just felt like an absolute kick in the stomach all together. In all honesty I couldn't give a **** about the boyfriend, it was my best friend that I felt so hurt by. I had suspicion something was going on with them all along but they told me to my face that there was nothing going on between them, I was being paranoid.

    I found once and for all one Wednesday evening in March. I rang my friend to come for a few drinks with me and she confessed to me that she was on a get away with him. I remember feeling shocked. Headed to the pub on my own, happened to meet another friend of mine in there and just drank myself stupid.

    Betrayed was an understatement I felt. Lost, broken. I know some are going to say that it's only over a fella but again I was more hurt over my best friend. I didn't want to hate her, I didn't want to be angry with her, I didn't want to blame her but I did. I was absolutely torn asunder over it.

    A few days later an old buddy of mine rings me up. He heard about what happened and decides to invite me down to Kerry for a weekend of drinking. I was just so numb, I didn't care so without even thinking about it I just went with it. I knew myself I needed to just get away, go somewhere different. Only thing is however I couldn't stay at his place, he still lived with his mother so he arranged for me to stay with his best friend.

    Next day I am catching a bus down to Kerry. My buddy rings me. He tells me he's off getting a tattoo and it's going to take a lot longer than anticipated. So he's sending his best friend, the guy who's couch I am supposed to be crashing on, up to meet me. Get to Killarney bus station and I walk around the front. I am standing there waiting for this friend. I am waiting there for about five minutes when this bearded young fella, in ripped jeans, a leather biker jacket and a band tee shirt walks up to me and says "You must be Mozz."

    I honestly never believed in love at first sight but the minute I lay my eyes on him I knew. We instantly clicked and a few days after meeting first we ended up together. Five years later and I am still mad about him as ever, he's the love of my life. He's helped me along so much with my anxiety, helped me gain back my confidence and trust in people. He's taught me how to relax and just go with the flow. It hasn't being easy for him but I wouldn't be where I am today only for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    Mozzeltoff wrote: »
    Five years ago, I found out my then boyfriend and my best friend at the time were seeing each other behind my back. I took it very badly. I was all ready in a weird head space due to depression and anxiety and this just felt like an absolute kick in the stomach all together. In all honesty I couldn't give a **** about the boyfriend, it was my best friend that I felt so hurt by. I had suspicion something was going on with them all along but they told me to my face that there was nothing going on between them, I was being paranoid.

    I found once and for all one Wednesday evening in March. I rang my friend to come for a few drinks with me and she confessed to me that she was on a get away with him. I remember feeling shocked. Headed to the pub on my own, happened to meet another friend of mine in there and just drank myself stupid.

    Betrayed was an understatement I felt. Lost, broken. I know some are going to say that it's only over a fella but again I was more hurt over my best friend. I didn't want to hate her, I didn't want to be angry with her, I didn't want to blame her but I did. I was absolutely torn asunder over it.

    A few days later an old buddy of mine rings me up. He heard about what happened and decides to invite me down to Kerry for a weekend of drinking. Without even thinking about it I just go with it. I know myself I need to just get away, go somewhere different. Only thing is however I can't stay at his place, he still lives with his mother so he arranges for me to stay with his best friend.

    Next day I am catching a bus down to Kerry. My buddy rings me. He tells me he's off getting a tattoo and it's going to take a lot longer than anticipated. So he's sending his best friend, the guy who's couch I am supposed to be crashing on, up to meet me. Get to Killarney bus station and I walk around the front. I am standing there waiting for this friend. I am waiting there for about five minutes when this young fella walks up to me and says "You must be Mozz."

    I honestly never believed in love at first sight but the minute I lay my eyes on him I knew. We instantly clicked and a few days after meeting first we ended up together. Five years later and I am still mad about him as ever, he's the love of my life. He's helped me along so much with my anxiety, helped me gain back my confidence and trust in people. He's taught me how to relax and just go with the flow. It hasn't being easy for him but I wouldn't be where I am today only for him.

    I honestly thought that story was going in the direction of the best friend standing you up altogether, and the friend who was going to pick you up ended up attacking you or something.

    I'm so glad the last paragraph was not that scenario!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭Mozzeltoff


    jungleman wrote: »
    I honestly thought that story was going in the direction of the best friend standing you up altogether, and the friend who was going to pick you up ended up attacking you or something.

    I'm so glad the last paragraph was not that scenario!!

    Ya know something, I remember thinking something like that on the way down on the bus but my friend getting the tattoo was like a mother hen with me. He kept apologising and that he'd meet up as soon as the tattoo was finished. He gave me my now OHs phone number and got me to ring him and tell him when I was arriving in Killarney.

    In hindsight, I was pretty reckless about it all. If I was to go blindly somewhere like that now I'd have a stroke :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Sexual abuse at the age of 6. Made me fear men and left me thinking I was only into women until I hit about twenty five and realised otherwise. Now I have to "come in" to family after "coming out". Also left me an emotional cripple, afraid of change and commitment and being with someone and being alone. How boring my life would have been otherwise hey. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ivytwine


    Break up of my first relationship. I dealt with it badly because I had lots of unresolved stuff (some of which I'm still battling through).

    Him breaking up with me was one of the best things that happened to me. I changed my study abroad plans from England to somewhere more exotic for a start.

    It was then that I decided that I'd never let a man make my decisions for me. Not that I'm anti relationships, but it's gotta be serious for me to make any massive significant life change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    My mother's death, four years ago. She was by far the most important person in my life. From the moment she died, I didn't really want to be alive any more. It's a feeling that hasn't abated. Neither bereavement counselling nor the passage of time have stopped the world from feeling like a strange, scary, unfriendly place. I've hated pretty much every minute of the last four years, and I don't see that changing any time soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,648 ✭✭✭tinpib


    God, I think I take a lot of things granted.

    Nothing truely traumatic has ever halppened me but of course I have my own issues.


    Something that changed me forever and is a predominantly happy one is the following

    Going by wikipedia it happened around 7th October 1996.

    As I remember it but I could be wrong it was a sunny evening, either a Thursday or a Friday and I was panned out on the couch watching Top of the Pops. [google it :pac: ]

    Back in those [more or less] pre-internet days you often watched Top of the pops to find out what was number one.

    It was the October before I did my Leaving Cert.

    So we get through the Top Ten and then they announce "and at number one is The Chemical Brothers with Setting Sun".

    And they played that iconic video of the girl at the end of the party int he country manor.

    I remember being transfixed. This relentless, almost 3 dimensional, wall of sound belting out of a crappy cathode-ray tube telly. It felt like it was all around me and I was in the middle of it.

    I just could not believe that someone or some people were able to create something like that.

    I was never the same again.

    I went out the next day or the day after and bought the album on CD which I listened to all the time while studying.

    It was swiftly followed up by Prodigy amongst others. A very happy time looking back.

    Of course, dancey DJ nights with all the trimmings followed in College.

    Great days. :p

    Still listen to DJ sets today when I'm working, rather than individual songs.

    Loads of stuff from back in the day on Youtube


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭FURET


    valoren wrote: »
    TL:DR? Never lend money to friends or family: Toxic people. A cautionary tale.
    How one toxic attention seeker can ruin a family dynamic.

    ....

    I've met a small number of people (maybe three) in life who displayed maybe 10% of Gillian's malice where I was at the receiving end. Even that small dose sent chills down my spine. I don't know how to classify such people as anything other than evil. I'm like a rabbit caught in headlights whenever I meet someone like that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭misstearheus


    You are about to read about dreams! Few others I havn’t included but most are here! Have a feeling this is going to be woefully long but I’ll try to keep it as short as possible. You will have to hang on in there till the last paragraph! :p Be patient! Don’t cheat!!

    One of the first dreams that I can remember is being at a Gathering, a Wedding or something with a pile of Family and distant relatives and their kids and everyone. Away from Dream-land, a Local Car Accident happened with the 2 ladies that I dreamed about. Distant relatives but funny thing is, I don’t think I actually knew that I was related to one of the women. Even though the 2 and their own/families and kids were in my dream but we never get together for anything.

    Another time, I dreamt of a huge white fluffy dog bounding up the back field at home-house and us all crowding around said Dog in the Kitchen. Had been wanting a Doggie at the time so I thought maybe it was just my brain working over-time pining for a Doggie. Then at some point afterwards, I downloaded some App on my Phone and the loading screen of the App was a lovely lil white cutie doggie. So I thought that must be my dream association. But then, lo and behold, one day at home, I was standing in the Living-Room and next thing I just turned around and what did I see running down the back field.... A huge big white fluffy Dog!! Had no idea where it came out of. Have never seen such a white Dog in my life hah. There bounding and leaping and jumping about the place! It was like an Apparition hah. :D So I ran outside to see was I seeing things. Dad was just driving in the Driveway from Work, all/most of my Siblings were outside at the time, I saw Mam walking to Next-Door Neighbour’s house with said dog. Didn’t live at home myself, no idea what pets our Neighbours had. But anyways, only difference between that and my dream was where it took place, - we were all with the Dog in the Kitchen in my dream and we were all outside when it happened!

    Another time, I dreamt my Family and I were all out in the Backyard at home, and my Mam was in 1 of those Balloon-Basket things flying high up into the sky, and Dad and me and my Siblings were doing our damnedest to try pull her back down to ground, we eventually got her back down. * I’m still waiting for something out of that dream to come to light or fruition. *

    Another time, I dreamt my Cousin was in a Bus holding a Baby and the Bus couldn’t stop, it had to work the pedals or whatever while the people were jumping off while the Bus was slowing down. A few years later said Cousin’s Sister was in a Bus-Crash.

    Another time, twice on 2 separate occasions I heard my Mam call my name in my sleep. Both times it did wake me up. One of the 2 times my Landlord called to the door 10 minutes later so as a result of that, I had enough time to wake up right and get clothes on lol and be someways half-awake and coherent lol. The other time a few minutes later after I woke up someone rang me.

    Another time, it was 5.30am-6am and I heard Dad calling Mam in my sleep sitting in his chair in the Living-Room. The next evening I heard Dad shouting. Couldn’t hear what he was roaring about or which of us he wanted so I ran down to him from my Bedroom, he was sitting in his chair in the Living-Room calling Mam who was outside gardening to make him tea! I looked up at the Wall-Clock, it was 5.30pm.

    Another time, I had a dream that I was sitting in a car with some Soldier type outside my deceased Granny’s empty house (as ya randomly do lol?!? :confused :pac: :D ) and there was something about us continuously revving the car / backing into Granny’s kirb or wall or something like we were trying to knock stuff down. I was with a lovely guy there for a while and guess what his job turned out to be! An Army Sergeant!! But better still, a few weeks after meeting him, my Mam said to me one day, randomly totally-out-of-the-blue and un-expectedly, that Dad was thinking of knocking down/renovating Gran’s old house for me to live in!! :eek::eek: (I really hope my lovely Army Sergeant isn’t on here ‘cos how in the world would I ever explain this?!? This sh1t is insane!)

    At this present moment in time, for the past few weeks, 3/4 nights I’ve been dreaming about driving along wherever and I crash straight into the car in front of me and I just wake up each time just as it’s happening. :/ It’s horrendous. No idea what that’s about!

    Also lately, I had a dream that a Male Neighbour a few doors down from me where I’m currently living and his young daughter were involved in a Hit&Run the next street over from us. I have a clear picture in my mind of the little girl lying there crumpled, still, and lifeless, on the road. And actually just after that, there was some Family Fun Festival thingy on in the area and I’m not from around here, wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on in the place and don’t know the Streets here. But then not long after, I was driving to the local Shop and co-incidentally one section of the same Street that I had dreamed about with the Hit&Run was closed and barricaded off for the Festival!


    Another time a couple of nights I had been having a recurring dream, about loads of people driving straight through Cross-roads. It was crazy! It was somewhere foreign and there was more people sitting in Construction-Site-Machinery something akin to Toll Booths, I dunno what they’re called, they’re really high with Joystick-type-controls. Anyways, there was people sitting in these Machinery controlling all the cars driving through the Crossroads and nobody was stopping everyone was just driving straight through. Then a few weeks later, My Dad, Mam, a Sibling and 2 Family-friends were involved in a Crash in a Jeep. Crash happened in Ballinasloe which might explain the notion my dream had about place being Foreign lol, no offence intended to anyone from Ballinasloe btw! And incidentally one of these Family-friends owns an Engineering Company!

    AND NOW THE KICKER! THIS REALLY AFFECTS MY LIFE. I CAN’T STOP THINKING ABOUT IT MOST DAYS. IT HAUNTS ME. AND PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL.

    On this occasion, it wasn’t a dream, I just had a premonition, strong sense of urgency whatever it is, that death was imminent, somebody was going to die and there was nothing I could do about it. For some reason there was something telling me it was related to sport. And I think at the time, my Sibling had just returned to playing sport after being away from it for a while, and I got it into my head it was my Sibling but all I could do was tell myself that they always have a Team Doctor with them so had to convince myself that everything was going to be okay. Fast-forward few weeks on, I think it was a Saturday, came up to the Kitchen, Dad looked like a ghost, his Boss just drowned. :(:( ;( ;( He was a lovely lovely man, got on great with Dad and they were very alike. Dad had been reading the News Headlines on Aertel, and there was a News-story about something happening the Boat of 6 Fisher-men, but that didn’t sit right with me, this death thing playing on my mind was only 1 person. But anyways it turned out Dad’s Boss and a friend of his were out Fishing and he fell out of the Boat. The friend lived, and he was with him all the time till they were rescued but Dad’s Boss unfortunately didn’t make it through. :/ (As an aside to really get freaky, after I found out he died, I remember going out into the Front-Hall down to Bedroom, and as I passed my Brother’s Bedroom I saw a shadow of a little boy in my Brother’s room window, I immediately went back to Kitchen to ask if there were any Visitors or Neighbours supposed to be calling ‘cos there was a kid outside. My Dad said he didn’t think there was anyone calling over and he came to check and couldn’t see any kid out the window where I was!! :eek: Dad’s Boss does have one Nephew as far as I know, God I don’t even want to think about that now. :eek: )

    Soooooo, anyways getting back on track a bit, associating it with my premonition, it wasn’t my Sibling’s Sport, it was my Dad’s Boss Fishing doing his sporting thang! But just prior to that, I had been dreaming off and on about a favourite Family Restaurant in Salthill that we used to frequent years and years ago when we were kids, and in the dream there was just lots and lots of plates crashing and lots of noise and it really did liken itself to something out of the Titanic Movie!! Soooo messed-up! It was mental. I remember reading something on Facebook at the time about someone going up to the North to see the Titanic Exhibition so I just told myself that I was thinking about that Titanic Exhibition and so that’s why I was dreaming about Salthill Restaurant and crashing plates. And incidentally, Dad’s Boss was from Salthill, and the name of the Restaurant is The Galleon, and the Restaurant itself / walls / Paintings / patterns / décor was all adorned, absolutely adorned with the theme of… water and boats….. :/ I know there was nothing I could have done. But it haunts the high hell out of me. And I guess a small little piece of me wonders if Dad had happened to have known that the 2 were going fishing and mentioned it in passing, - a small little part of me wonders, - had I known, would anything have clicked or registered with me…, would I ever have been able to prevent them going fishing some way somehow lol or helped them avoid the tragedy someway. Ridiculous I know, I know there wasn’t anything that I could have done as it was just a random activity that took place, me knowing or not knowing had no bearing on it really, but I just can’t stop thinking about it. It really haunts me so much. :/

    THE END!

    I bet I’m gonna get a few giving out here now that it would have been much juicier a story if God Forbid, my last premonition had been about my Brother dying through sport, but it wasn’t him lol! Havn’t told anyone all about my dreams before! :eek::eek: Have always wanted to write a Letter to my parents telling them all about my dreams.

    Can it be put on the record that I’m happy enough and won’t be complaining if I never ever ever have another dream ever again! :pac::cool::pac: Perhaps just all coincidences, maybe some timed sequences have some way prevented bad things from happening I don't know! Bat-sh1t-crazzzzyyyyy!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    Without quoting the whole thread but it's not just you and your family that have been changed forever but your brother sounds like he's suffering from some kind of Stockholm Syndrome going by the whole 'if she told me it was Monday and it was Sunday I would believe her'. Look there's no point trying to analyse or make sense of these kind of people. They are disturbed. Something has usually happened in their childhood or family to make them this way but unlike others who have problems they try to drag everyone else down with them into the depths of their own misery and self-hatred. I feel sorry for the child on the way. It is possibly doomed from the start. A lot of children with personality disordered parents end up with mental health issues. I would still suggest keep an eye out for your brother. He may see through her one day and need your support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭valoren


    Shint0 wrote: »
    Without quoting the whole thread but it's not just you and your family that have been changed forever but your brother sounds like he's suffering from some kind of Stockholm Syndrome going by the whole 'if she told me it was Monday and it was Sunday I would believe her'. Look there's no point trying to analyse or make sense of these kind of people. They are disturbed. Something has usually happened in their childhood or family to make them this way but unlike others who have problems they try to drag everyone else down with them into the depths of their own misery and self-hatred. I feel sorry for the child on the way. It is possibly doomed from the start. A lot of children with personality disordered parents end up with mental health issues. I would still suggest keep an eye out for your brother. He may see through her one day and need your support.

    Thanks for that.

    I guess he's become conditioned to do whatever she says lest she explode into a temper tantrum, a defence mechanism to just simply go along with whatever she says. He's in an abusive relationship and he can't see the wood for the trees.

    It was just a major changing point that day in November. He was in full attack mode. The Stockholm Syndrome is very appropriate. I've pointed out to him that he is being manipulated against me. I feel that his wife has succeeded now in isolating him from his family, convinced him we have no time for him. He never answered his phone to me since our last meeting with our father. That was October 2014. She probably knows that I can see through her manipulation and refuses to let him speak with me, in case I make a very compelling case for why she is batsh1t crazy. For the record, he has met Jessica three times. One of those occasions is described below.

    To illustrate the kind of person his wife is, consider the below;

    Apr 2013. Note: All this happens on the same day.

    Gillian and Jessica meet with another friend for lunch in the city centre. This is when they are still friendly and before her meltdown in the bar/street and before she starts her bullying of Jessica.

    After the lunch, their friend goes home but Gillian want's Jessica to go to Debenham's department store. The reason for this is that she wants to show her Brian's ex-girlfriend. Gillian points her out and whispers something along the lines of "Look at the state of her! Isn't she ugly and fat?" and has a laugh to herself. Brian had split up with this girl in 2003. Ten years before, he then met Gillian on the rebound after their break up.

    I am in the city centre too and meet up with my two brothers for a coffee. We get a text from Gillian that they are in a nearby bar. Older brother heads home and we meet them in the bar. I have a couple of drinks but Gillian, Brian and Jessica decide to stay on. I am training for a race and have a 'long' training cycle the following morning and have no intention of staying on.

    A few hours later, I get a few text messages from "Jessica". Or so I think it is her. The text says something along the lines of "Why did you leave so early? Is something wrong?" and "Just wanted to know if you're ok? Thought we might have had a nice night out together but hey whatever". There is some back and forth about my cycle the next morning and I would see her tomorrow evening as planned. It turns out that they were after a few glasses of wine in the bar and Jessica told me the next evening that Gillian was furious that I had left. She grabbed Jessica's phone and insisted on texting me, from Jessica's phone, the above text messages. There was nothing Jessica could do as she is shy and non confrontational, to someone like Gillian, a soft touch. There I am like a fool, thinking it is Jessica. She apologises profusely and says it will never happen again.

    Sorry for banging on about all this. It's therapeutic to write it down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    valoren wrote: »
    Sorry for banging on about all this. It's therapeutic to write it down.

    Sssshhhh, sssssssssshhhhhh. That's why we're here.

    That's why we're here.


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