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Would you accept a knighthood

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    I'm a Yank. A title plus a fiver will get me a bad latte at Starbucks.

    Ask me again if they offer me a landed title, though. I might have a good think about that one. My husband (a dual Irish/UK national) would plotz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭mosstin


    No, mostly because I'm such a sirly individual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭12Phase


    I think these kinds of knighthoods are actually a sign of how the aristocratic system in the UK is gradually fading away to just being a bit of a relic and a medals system anyway.

    I don't think that's a bad thing. It's actually very important.

    What gets to me isn't the honours system. That's actually quite a nice way of awarding people with recognition of high achievement. It's the hereditary peerages and all the rest that really isn't very compatible with a modern 21st century liberal democracy.

    That being said, I'm not British and it's up to them to do whatever they like. If they wanted reform, they're more than capable of demanding it. So I'm sure they're happy enough with the status quo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭m1ck007


    Why would i accept a knighthood from a foreign country. I wouldnt accept a knighthood from the king of swaziland so why would i accept a knighthood from the queen of england


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    I can't imagine it will come up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    melissak wrote: »
    I can't imagine it will come up.

    No, but you can't beat a bit of righteous indignation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    I would do it just so that if someone was being a tool demanding I call them their title (doctor, father, etc ) I could then demand that they call me by my title.


    in general I wouldn't ant it thow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    m1ck007 wrote: »
    Why would i accept a knighthood from a foreign country. I wouldnt accept a knighthood from the king of swaziland so why would i accept a knighthood from the queen of england

    Ah now that's deserving of its own thread. When King Mswati III comes knockin', you answer the door!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Celebrity mindreader n'all, fair play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    No.

    These type of awards are the height of idiocy up there with honorary degrees.

    One good thing about Ireland is we don't indulge in this type of nonsense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,135 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Already have one.
    No big deal.
    Although,I did get to have a sh1te in the palace.

    You sat on the throne. That makes you His Majesty Osis of Liver.... Or did you sh1te in the garden?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    For example if I meet John Murphy and he is an older gentleman I will call him Mr. Murphy until he says otherwise just out of respect. However if I meet the same person and happen to call him John and he says "it's Mr. Murphy" I will persist with calling him John as I deem him to now be a bellend :)

    Paul Dirac turned down a knighthood specifically because he didn't want to always be addressed by his first name, i.e. Sir Paul.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,951 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Take the money and run, followed by lots of random product endorsements and with teh monies will setup the grand duchy of Sealand II with blackjack and hookers.


  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bnt wrote: »
    Being offered a Knighthood and refusing it elevates you to whole 'nother level of coolness - if you have that luxury. Among the refuseniks are David Bowie, Rudyard Kipling, Vanessa Redgrave, TE Lawrence, Danny Boyle, Michael Faraday, George Bernard Shaw, Aldous Huxley, Henry Moore, and Peter Higgs (of Higgs Boson fame).

    Not forgetting the great Irish railway engineer William Dargan, who refused at least twice. To my great surprise, even William Murder Murphy refused a knighthood from the British monarch in 1907, according to Myles Dungan here. Knighthoods are made for people like him. Anybody know why Murphy refused?

    We can be sure they tried to buy off John Hume many times, but he declined (Gerry Fitt's spectacular fall from grace was a lesson.).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭blindside88


    melissak wrote: »
    I can't imagine it will come up.

    I doubt it will for me anyway. But this and will I win the euromillions make up a silly amount of my time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    No I have no time for the honours system or those who hold them. A lot of freeloading scumbags imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    There seems to be a big misunderstanding of what the honours system actually is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    Do I get a sword and a suit of armour?

    If so, then I'm in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,957 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Would never accept it.

    Find the whole concept of monarchies, peerages, titles etc to be a totally archaic system

    Very happy that Ireland doesn't have it and I hate when Irish citizens accept the honorary ones.

    They should at least modernise it and drop 'Empire' from the titles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Unless you became a British citizen, you wouldn't get a title.

    Even more casual racism from the Empire, hardly surprising.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    No never. I can understand some Irish people accepting 'honours' from the Queen but I can't help but think a little less of them in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    There seems to be a big misunderstanding of what the honours system actually is.

    How cryptic Fred?

    Why anyone would want to be a Member of the British Empire after what it's stood for I'll never be able to get my head around.

    Would be very happy to be in a position where the people of a country confered a meaningful award on me but an award from an inbred, incestuous, sectarian, undemocratic outdated monarchy? Not for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Celebrity mindreader n'all, fair play.

    You didn't have to be a mind reader to know that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,957 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    There seems to be a big misunderstanding of what the honours system actually is.

    Well you misunderstand everything about Ireland and its people so I don't see the problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    How cryptic Fred?

    Why anyone would want to be a Member of the British Empire after what it's stood for I'll never be able to get my head around.

    Would be very happy to be in a position where the people of a country confered a meaningful award on me but an award from an inbred, incestuous, sectarian, undemocratic outdated monarchy? Not for me.

    It's not cryptic, it's true.

    Getting a knighthood, honorary or otherwise, is a simple recognition of accomplishment. There's no land or money involved.

    A lordship is an entirely different thing, similar to being appointed a senator in Ireland. They are open to anyone and the only Lord I've met, started life stacking shelves in Tesco.

    I'll ignore the rest of your post, it's pathetic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Well you misunderstand everything about Ireland and its people so I don't see the problem.

    Wow, a comedian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭LincolnsBeard


    It's not cryptic, it's true.

    Getting a knighthood, honorary or otherwise, is a simple recognition of accomplishment. There's no land or money involved.

    A lordship is an entirely different thing, similar to being appointed a senator in Ireland. They are open to anyone and the only Lord I've met, started life stacking shelves in Tesco.

    I'll ignore the rest of your post, it's pathetic.

    I'm going to assume debating the merits of a Knighthood with 'bobbysands81' might be futile


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21 Lost in Time


    Even more casual racism from the Empire, hardly surprising.

    How is the requirement to be a British citizen to receive a knighthood racist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭chughes


    Pink Fairy wrote: »
    Hell yeah!
    Sir Pink Fairy has a lovely ring ;)
    I hear that's a well known fact in The George........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    How is the requirement to be a British citizen to receive a knighthood racist?

    Because only upper class white ex etonians get knighthoods, don't they?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_Sobers


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