Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

nice_guy80 · 28-03-2016 09:50PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Christ boys and girls ye are very sensitive.

Will ye get over yourselves.

You are a laughing stock fair enough, a big shiny bus but a dump of a ground, blowing hot air last year and getting dumped out by lesser teams not once but twice.

But all we are doing is laughing at ye, noting more.

You see, if you were actually involved in the running of a club or development of facilities you would never demean or ridicule another club or county and their lack of facilities.

because you never know when you might need them to help you out in other ways.

I've never known a GAA club to kick another one when they are down or embarrassed about something

homewardbound11 · 28-03-2016 09:51PM

This is turning in to a Roscommon thread . Can we focus on next week and then the championship .
For one I'm delighted for Roscommon and the fact now we have 3 teams in the top 10. Making Connaught titles very competitive .
As for the league we wanted survival and hopefully that will come next weekend .

Unfortunately we haven't added significantly to the panel apart from Durcan and hopefully Regan will bed in some more .
Overall we are where we thought we would be given the injuries and club commitments . I only hope that there is a stronger emphasis on goals as we were one of the poorest goal scoring teams whilst we focuses far too much on defensive work . We have great running half backs and there was little of that seen this league .

mayo.mick · 28-03-2016 10:09PM

mayo.mick wrote: »

3/4's of the pitch was like that;

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Hulk Hands · 28-03-2016 10:30PM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

It's not very neighbourly to be so critical of Roscommon's lack of a decent pitch and our difficulties with this.

I always thought the GAA was a community organisation.

The pitch in kiltoom was more than adequate for games in Division 2, 3 and 4.
If ye are down there in the future your perspective on that might change.

The slagging is kind of ironic given Mayo's own situation. An obscene amount of money paid for a stadium which they're unable to pay back. And for all that money? A 1960's style stand with poles blocking spectators views, while the concrete "benches" elsewhere remain, which are a health and safety concern in themselves. The majority of counties outside Dublin have some sort of stadium issues, not least my own.

Fr Tod Umptious · 28-03-2016 10:35PM

megadodge wrote: »

Yeah, because if we didn't lease out a bus, we'd have enough money for a new ground!!

Brilliant analysis!

Ye would have a bit more money to get the gardening right.

seligehgit · 29-03-2016 12:41AM

homewardbound11 wrote: »

This is turning in to a Roscommon thread . Can we focus on next week and then the championship .
For one I'm delighted for Roscommon and the fact now we have 3 teams in the top 10. Making Connaught titles very competitive .
As for the league we wanted survival and hopefully that will come next weekend .

Unfortunately we haven't added significantly to the panel apart from Durcan and hopefully Regan will bed in some more .
Overall we are where we thought we would be given the injuries and club commitments . I only hope that there is a stronger emphasis on goals as we were one of the poorest goal scoring teams whilst we focuses far too much on defensive work . We have great running half backs and there was little of that seen this league .

TBF I think Stephen Rochford has placed an emphasis on making us a defensively a more secure unit.We have a past history of leaking crucial goals.I think he has achieved quite an amount success in this regard.

Without doubt though this success has come at a cost to our offensive play.The all out attack,marauding half backs I believe are a thing of the past.It brought us so far but not over the line.We have relied on the attacking abilities of same to paint over the cracks in our forward line.But as I see it Stephen Rochford is looking for a more measured approach to our attacking,for which he is to be commended.

Patrick Durkan is hopefully going to be a massive addition to the team.

If Evan Regan can continue to develop his potential alongside a fit Cillian O Connor and the class act that is Diarmuid there is much room for optimism.Conor O Shea is another man who's not afraid to take a shot on.It's amazing the physique Cillian has now,he really has bulked up now.

Absolutely admirable the pick ups by Diarmuid and Evan with their foot whilst on the run with the terrible surface,wonderful skill.Both these lads have a quality that we've lacked,a directness in terms of taking on their opponents at pace.A dry surface in the heat of the championship will do wonders.

PressRun · 29-03-2016 01:40AM

I think the focus on improving the defensive strategy has allowed Ger Cafferky to come back into his own more recently. I often heard him getting a bit of a hard time from Mayo supporters during the Horan era, but, to be fair, I don't think Horan's preferred style of play always suited him. While it was exciting to watch Leeroy and Colm Boyle charging up the pitch, it often left players like Cafferky without any support and then he (and others) would get the blame when the **** hit the fan, defensively.

davegrohl48 · 29-03-2016 07:30AM

The other issue with the attacking half backs was extra time or replays or last 10 mins of games. It is too energy sapping.
With this style also we didnt develop as much our footpass counter attack or at least getting the ball quicker past the opposition 45.
Freeman and Cillian in form will be key to improving our scoring returns.

homewardbound11 · 29-03-2016 08:31AM

Fair enough but we still need half backs in our attacking formation .
Dublin are still doing it and can afford to do it with their bench .
They used to be the team that " I'll still score more than you " over the past 2 seasons they have proved that they can close out games defensively.
Ironically enough the only times that didn't happen was against Mayo in the drawn game . In that game we were the ones who threw everything at them and it almost paid off .

We probably need both but who and what times during the match will determine our hope of success

nice_guy80 · 29-03-2016 09:11AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Ye would have a bit more money to get the gardening right.

Bus hasn't cost the county board a cent

Gally05 · 29-03-2016 09:34AM

any day the Rossies are beaten , in anything, is a great day ;-)

PressRun · 29-03-2016 09:35AM

Tom Cunniffe opting out of the panel for 2016 to go travelling apparently. Best of luck to him.

naughto · 29-03-2016 09:43AM

It might be the best thing he ever did come back fresh for next yr.what age would he be ?

Gally05 · 29-03-2016 09:48AM

i think he'd struggle to make it into the 15 this year ?
where would you play in and instead who ?

Fr Tod Umptious · 29-03-2016 11:20AM

U21 Final moved to Sligo

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0329/778061-hyde-park/

The situation is made a little clearer by the Connacht Council's decision on Tuesday to move Saturday's provincial Under-21 final from Hyde Park to Markievicz Park in Sligo, where they action will get underway at 6.0.

padd b1975 · 29-03-2016 11:52AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

U21 Final moved to Sligo

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0329/778061-hyde-park/

Moving it out of the county appears to be a slap on the wrists for the state of the pitch on Sunday.

Fr Tod Umptious · 29-03-2016 12:16PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Moving it out of the county appears to be a slap on the wrists for the state of the pitch on Sunday.

Yea, you would think it would be moved to Kiltoom rather than Sligo.

Green_Tae · 29-03-2016 12:57PM

seligehgit wrote: »

TBF I think Stephen Rochford has placed an emphasis on making us a defensively a more secure unit.We have a past history of leaking crucial goals.I think he has achieved quite an amount success in this regard.

Yes, this was noticeable yesterday.

However a lot of the great work that the backs did was squandered when the ball was transferred to midfield. Aiden O'Shea consistently takes too much out of the ball. Is he perhaps a liability at midfield? Of the Breaffy contingent Seamus O'Shea is perhaps the most effective footballer in that squad.

When you watch how Kerry dismantled Monaghan or Dublin's second half performances you can see a clear gap in performance levels. That's probably the next level that Rochford needs to get this team to.

seligehgit · 29-03-2016 12:59PM

PressRun wrote: »

I think the focus on improving the defensive strategy has allowed Ger Cafferky to come back into his own more recently. I often heard him getting a bit of a hard time from Mayo supporters during the Horan era, but, to be fair, I don't think Horan's preferred style of play always suited him. While it was exciting to watch Leeroy and Colm Boyle charging up the pitch, it often left players like Cafferky without any support and then he (and others) would get the blame when the **** hit the fan, defensively.

One hundred percent agree,the Horan philosophy tended towards a gungho attacking mindset which oftentimes left our full back line and Ger Cafferkey very vulnerable.Mindful of that I thought at times he struggled on certain quality forwards..Bernard Brogan and Mr. Donaghy come to mind but oftentimes it was all about the quality of ball delivery and a failure to impose himself physically.Thus far in the league he seems to have got his confidence back and has played well given the setbacks we've had.

Hoping Tom Cunniffe has a well earned break to recharge his turbo.I'd imagine it's a battle between Brendan Harrison and Kevin Keane for his spot with advantage Harrison.

The we'll outscore you attacking philosophy did mean we ran out of gas late in games and ET and we did'nt have the bench quality that the likes of the Dubs have.Bit of a conundrum as it was same all out attack that brought us back into the initial semi final game last year..It just does'nt seem to sustainable for seventy minutes.It is a real balancing act and it appears to be the case that Stephen Rochford is trying to implement a system for same to even out the energy levels the lads expend over the course of the game.An effective defensive setup hopefully will ensure we don't fail to close out games when we hit the front,maintaining concentration levels is another vital cog in the wheel.The sweeper system has been tested out with relative success in the league on a few occasions...Shane Nally against Dublin.In past times we deployed Keith Higgins in a relatively meaningless role against Cork last year.Barry Moran's role against Donegal last year was the sole time I can remember a positive outcome without any meaningful roadtesting.Now is the time to be experimenting.

It's great the under 21 game has been moved to Sligo,I wonder if Diarmuid O Connor will sit out the Down game out to play if he's fit and play on Saturday.Lots at stake next weekend.

seligehgit · 29-03-2016 01:04PM

Green Tae wrote: »

Yes, this was noticeable yesterday.

However a lot of the great work that the backs did was squandered when the ball was transferred to midfield. Aiden O'Shea consistently takes too much out of the ball. Is he perhaps a liability at midfield? Of the Breaffy contingent Seamus O'Shea is perhaps the most effective footballer in that squad.

When you watch how Kerry dismantled Monaghan or Dublin's second half performances you can see a clear gap in performance levels. That's probably the next level that Rochford needs to get this team to.

Yes we've quite a bit to go to close that gap.Kerry were very impressive against ourselves in the second half and equally so against Monaghan.We know all about the Dublin performance levels at this stage.But McCaffrey and O Carroll's absences should'nt be underestimated.

Coillte_Bhoy · 29-03-2016 05:55PM

I'm hearing Cunniffe has left the panel

mayo.mick · 29-03-2016 06:03PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I'm hearing Cunniffe has left the panel

Gone travelling for a few months.

TCDStudent1 · 29-03-2016 06:46PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I'm hearing Cunniffe has left the panel

From what I've seen of him recently, definitely off inter county pace at the moment

Squatman · 29-03-2016 06:48PM

I see today that Tom Cuniffe has given up football for this yer and going travelling. I wonder is this the breakup that was eluded to in previous posts? In either case its a pity to see him go... since werr gunna win sam this year...

Syferus · 29-03-2016 07:41PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Moving it out of the county appears to be a slap on the wrists for the state of the pitch on Sunday.

It was our own choice. It had informally been decided even before throw in on Sunday. Too much money at stake for the Dublin game to not give it every chance of being played at home.

Lol at the idea idea, though. Kiltoom too small to host it. It was Tuam or Sligo.

padd b1975 · 29-03-2016 08:22PM

Syferus wrote: »

It was our own choice. It had informally been decided even before throw in on Sunday. Too much money at stake for the Dublin game to not give it every chance of being played at home.

Lol at the idea idea, though. Kiltoom too small to host it. It was Tuam or Sligo.

Fair enough.

Strange decision though, as a Mayo man, I'll take Sligo all day long, not nearly as intimate or atmospheric as Kiltoom.

Slogger24 · 29-03-2016 08:56PM

Syferus wrote: »

It was our own choice. It had informally been decided even before throw in on Sunday. Too much money at stake for the Dublin game to not give it every chance of being played at home.

Lol at the idea idea, though. Kiltoom too small to host it. It was Tuam or Sligo.

If it rains at all this week .Ye wont be playing in the Hyde this weekend!! It'll take it another month to repair after sunday

km79 · 29-03-2016 08:58PM

Slogger24 wrote: »

If it rains at all this week .Ye wont be playing in the Hyde this weekend!! It'll take it another month to repair after sunday

heavy rain / flooding promised Friday/ Saturday
no chance it will go ahead there

Slogger24 · 29-03-2016 09:22PM

km79 wrote: »

heavy rain / flooding promised Friday/ Saturday
no chance it will go ahead there

if croker is available, good chance it might be played there...

ProudDUB · 29-03-2016 09:45PM

Jesus. The Rossies will riot if it's moved to Croker. :eek:

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