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Digital Solitude · 24-03-2016 12:43AM

That's fair enough, I've a 290 in Galway city if that'd be any better, could give a loan of it. Won't be in Galway for until Sunday week though

TerrorFirmer · 24-03-2016 12:47AM

It's actually a massive pain, because I deliberated for ages over the 980Ti vs the Fury X, the whole Nvidia faster now vs AMD probably a better long term investment, gysnc vs freesync, and then settled on the 980ti (and I had previously also owned a 980ti).

That was only about a month ago. :mad:

I'll get the monitor first and then think about switching. Just sickens me to think about loosing money on a GPU a few weeks old.

Redfox25 · 24-03-2016 11:44AM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I got a good deal on a 32" monitor so I took it, but now I've discovered afterwards that it has Freesync. Does anyone here use it - would it be worth my while switching to an AMD Fury or similar or should I just stick with the 980ti?

I have it, with 390x and a 144hz freesync screen. Love it to bits. Havent tried G-sync but I do like freesync and dont think I would go back. Get a cheap card that supports it and see what you think. And grats, 32inch monitor sounds like the bizz!

Xenoronin · 24-03-2016 12:00PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I'll get the monitor first and then think about switching. Just sickens me to think about loosing money on a GPU a few weeks old.

Gonna pipe my hand up and say that if you do consider selling, gimme a poke. I'm still mulling over the pros and cons of upgrading at the moment but I can't see a first gen at 16/14nm being that massive a leap. My high refresh rate g-sync is going to waste with the GTX760 and I should get a good few years out of a 980TI. I swear I'll not offer a bag of chips and a broken ps3 :pac:

cadete · 24-03-2016 12:55PM

Wright wrote: »

Where? Can't find them for under 80+.

Apologies for the slow reply, they were available for that at the beginning of the year on Amazon, 45 if you were happy with pink(if I remember correctly) but must have gone up since then
There is a new model on the way aswell, if your in no hurry setup an alert so you get notified of any price drops, although €80 is still a great price for them considering the quality

BloodBath · 24-03-2016 04:57PM

Xenoronin wrote: »

Gonna pipe my hand up and say that if you do consider selling, gimme a poke. I'm still mulling over the pros and cons of upgrading at the moment but I can't see a first gen at 16/14nm being that massive a leap. My high refresh rate g-sync is going to waste with the GTX760 and I should get a good few years out of a 980TI. I swear I'll not offer a bag of chips and a broken ps3 :pac:

It should be massive, it's the biggest % die shrink in gpu history combined with HBM and Async we should be looking at at least double the performance instead of the usual 30-40%

Maybe not first gen but I'd still expect 50-60%+.

Serephucus · 24-03-2016 05:02PM

Perf/watt, sure. I wouldn't be so sure about raw performance, at least not initially. NVIDIA have historically been very good about milking everything they can from a new architecture, I'd expect no different this time. I don't want to speculate much beyond that, but I've gotten into the habit of getting my expectations cut drastically short over the last couple of launches.

BloodBath · 24-03-2016 05:05PM

Serephucus wrote: »

Perf/watt, sure. I wouldn't be so sure about raw performance, at least not initially. NVIDIA have historically been very good about milking everything they can from a new architecture, I'd expect no different this time. I don't want to speculate much beyond that, but I've gotten into the habit of getting my expectations cut drastically short over the last couple of launches.

The last couple of launches have all been 28nm though. Heavily refined 28nm but still 28nm.

I'd expect a similar path on 14/16nm. Both companies are not going to set the bar too low when they are in direct competition with each other.

I expect AMD to push the initial launch as high as they can to try and regain market share.

Serephucus · 24-03-2016 05:09PM

BloodBath wrote: »

I expect AMD to push the initial launch as high as they can to try and regain market share.

I'm hoping for this. Hopefully they can knock NVIDIA off their all-to-comfortable ass a little, and maybe make them re-think their pricing (a long-shot, I know).

BloodBath · 24-03-2016 05:16PM

Serephucus wrote: »

I'm hoping for this. Hopefully they can knock NVIDIA off their all-to-comfortable ass a little, and maybe make them re-think their pricing (a long-shot, I know).

Not just Nvidia, also intel. AMD's 4 core / 8 thread and 8 core / 16 thread cpus should make intel reconsider how many cores are on i5 and i7's especially if their IPC improvement claims are true. If AMD can match i5 and i7 pricing with these cpus they are going to have to.

Serephucus · 24-03-2016 05:36PM

Agreed. Let's not get started on the hype-train that's been the past few AMD processor launches though. I'll admit there's a lot to be hopeful for with this one, but... I just can't quite get there. I'd love to believe that AMD will completely destroy Intel this round, but I'd say the best we can hope for is for Zen to match Skylake, and to pull ahead with multi-threaded stuff.

I haven't really been keeping up with Zen too much. Has there been any pricing indications so far?

Xenoronin · 24-03-2016 06:20PM

Don't think i'll have the funds for at least another month anyway. Hopefully there will be more information soon other than possible leaks.

BloodBath · 24-03-2016 06:55PM

If they can match Skylake IPC figures and if they can price aggressively then they should be a big seller.

4, 6 8 and a 16 core server proc all with multi threading. I'd imagine the 4 core being priced between i3 and i5 levels, 6 at i7, 8 at x99 i7 and the 16 at high end x99 xeon levels.

MarkAnthony · 24-03-2016 11:44PM

I've broken the lock on my 16 lane PCIe slot. As my PC is a 'custom design' (read bodged into my cabinet

) it causing me some major heartache with the GPU working loose. Will I lose any performance moving it to the 8 lane slot?

R9-290 here on a Z97M Gaming by MSI.

Lu Tze · 24-03-2016 11:46PM

MarkAnthony wrote: »

I've broken the lock on my 16 lane PCIe slot. As my PC is a 'custom design' (read bodged into my cabinet ) it causing me some major heartache with the GPU working loose. Will I lose any performance moving it to the 8 lane slot?

R9-290 here on a Z97M Gaming by MSI.

MarkAnthony · 24-03-2016 11:47PM

Trust me, much duct tape has already been utilised! :pac:

Gehad_JoyRider · 25-03-2016 08:39PM

Serephucus wrote: »

Agreed. Let's not get started on the hype-train that's been the past few AMD processor launches though. I'll admit there's a lot to be hopeful for with this one, but... I just can't quite get there. I'd love to believe that AMD will completely destroy Intel this round, but I'd say the best we can hope for is for Zen to match Skylake, and to pull ahead with multi-threaded stuff.

I haven't really been keeping up with Zen too much. Has there been any pricing indications so far?

Theres no pricing out there for them at the moment. I never payed much attention to hype as I never really needed a PC till I got my current rig. How ever I'm in that position where in the next year I have to replace all my computer.

But I also need to replace my camera which is work so replace that first then do. The PC. I'd like to think when zen is replaced that its good and Asus release a. Sabertooth model.

Keplar240B · 25-03-2016 09:30PM

Can someone recommend a website for shopping for old processors(used or new) at a good price?
Trying to make an old PC be all it can be.

wotzgoingon · 25-03-2016 09:34PM

Keplar240B wrote: »

Can someone recommend a website for shopping for old processors(used or new) at a good price?
Trying to make an old PC be all it can be.

ebay is best for second hand CPU's.

TerrorFirmer · 25-03-2016 09:37PM

What socket/type of CPU are you looking for?

Keplar240B · 25-03-2016 09:55PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

What socket/type of CPU are you looking for?

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor supporting HT Technology 3.06 GHz, 512K Cache, 533 MHz FSB, Socket type 478

TerrorFirmer · 25-03-2016 10:18PM

Ah, that is really old. Shouldn't be more than 99p on Ebay.

twinsen · 25-03-2016 11:40PM

Keplar240B wrote: »

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor supporting HT Technology 3.06 GHz, 512K Cache, 533 MHz FSB, Socket type 478

wait until after easter
I might get you one for free... if you're around dublin

ED E · 25-03-2016 11:48PM

You'd be better off using that PC as a kettle than for personal computing anyways....

Monotype · 26-03-2016 10:41AM

Are you sure it's worth your while? A €150 Atom tablet would probably be just as fast... and consume A LOT less power.

TerrorFirmer · 26-03-2016 01:26PM

If you can get one for a euro or for free it's worth it, but that said an old S478 P4 would struggle with pretty much anything these days. Would be OK on Windows XP for basic use.

However, when these days you can pick up a 300% faster Core 2 Duo based Dell/HP/Lenovo machine for €50 second hand....it does make upgrading ancient and obsolete machines, while still suffering low performance, pretty pointless.

Keplar240B · 26-03-2016 02:49PM

ED E wrote: »

You'd be better off using that PC as a kettle than for personal computing anyways....

Its not my primary machine just an old dell I have had forever.
Still used for a few bits and pieces.
Has linux mint on it, runs quite fine for programming, basic computing, web browsing etc Just wondering was there a good website to buy really cheap old processors to max it out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrocomputing

ED E · 26-03-2016 03:27PM

I think you'd be in the minority in calling P4 part of the retro community movement. Its not quite old enough yet to gain a big nostalgia medal.

Solitaire · 26-03-2016 03:55PM

Yeah, those things run off boring 12V power! Vintage systems run off 5V or weirder

VR does seem to be becoming something of a bugbear... gonna stick up a thread and see what the techier amongst us think of the practicality of current-gen VR as there's more and more people asking about it.

Cuddlesworth · 26-03-2016 07:15PM

Keplar240B wrote: »

Its not my primary machine just an old dell I have had forever.
Still used for a few bits and pieces.
Has linux mint on it, runs quite fine for programming, basic computing, web browsing etc Just wondering was there a good website to buy really cheap old processors to max it out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrocomputing

Considering a raspberry PI 3 does the same thing, I'd say your wasting your time. Old hardware is interesting but ultimately its for the bin.

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