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  • #32
    Chiparus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Does anyone know if the left feeder arrow heading north i.e. from the bridge turning left onto grand canal parade operate before the straight on arrow?

    A few years ago I was involved in a guy who was killed in a similar situation.
    He cycled up to the junction wanting to go straight,there was a red light so he stopped. A few seconds later a truck stopped beside him wanting to turn left.
    The feeder arrow to turn left turned green and the truck turned and took out the unfortunate cyclist.


  • #33
    Unknown Soldier
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    daragh_ wrote: »
    Glad the cyclist will be ok and thanks for the updates WA.

    Might be best for all concerned to avoid speculation around the circumstances? I'm sure a Mod will be along in a minute to say the same thing.

    Agreed.

    And for legal reasons it is the right thing to do.

    It is a pity though that there is no database, post accidents, be they car, cyclist, farming, industrial etc that one can access to get the facts. Some cases are printed in the media post inquest but there are so many that are not.

    Really they should be, just to educate people. I can't help but think there is an unwritten policy in play, in this country, akin to playing down suicide.

    Hope the lady get s well soon and sorry to read you had to see that stuff WA :/


  • #34
    ThisRegard
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    Isn't there already a ghost bike at that bridge?

    Regarding the above query as to a centralised location of facts regarding accidents, I thought the RSA or similar did had a map with details of such accidents?


  • #35
    tomasrojo
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Isn't there already a ghost bike at that bridge?
    Emmet Bridge, south end.
    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Regarding the above query as to a centralised location of facts regarding accidents, I thought the RSA or similar did had a map with details of such accidents?
    Not the RSA. One of the online papers doing something like that.


  • #36
    Michael D Not Higgins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Isn't there already a ghost bike at that bridge?

    Regarding the above query as to a centralised location of facts regarding accidents, I thought the RSA or similar did had a map with details of such accidents?

    Yep, seen in this photo from the story above.

    cyc1.PNG


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  • #37
    Wishbone Ash
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Isn't there already a ghost bike at that bridge?...
    Yes, it caught my attention at the scene.


  • #38
    tomasrojo
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    Fair enough! One at Emmet Bridge too.


  • #39
    radia
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    My recollection (which could be faulty) is that the Ranelagh ghost bike was just put there because that part of the canal was a favourite spot of someone who died and their friends/relatives thought it would be a nice touch - not really appreciating the significance of ghost bikes - which provoked a bit of controversy at the time.

    Edit: Found it: Ghost bike @ Ranelagh bridge
    It's for Louise Butler who died in Blackrock.
    https://twitter.com/AbiePB/status/422340643802083328


  • #40
    groovyg
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    That ghost bike at Ranelagh bridge was erected in memory of the cyclist who died in blackrock a few years ago. There was a thread on it http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057124680&page=2


  • #41
    RobFowl
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    Hope the cyclist is ok and recovers well. My thoughts and prayers and with her and also with the driver of the HGV.


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  • #42
    Dial Hard
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    jimmycrackcorm wrote:
    As I said on the thread I posted a number of weeks ago, there's not enough publicity about the dangers of cyclists, trucks and left turns.


    Every HGV I've ever seen has a sign on the back warning cyclists not to pass on the inside.


  • #43
    ted1
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Isn't there already a ghost bike at that bridge?

    Regarding the above query as to a centralised location of facts regarding accidents, I thought the RSA or similar did had a map with details of such accidents?

    Yes and it was discussed before that it was put there in memory of a girl killed in blackrock, her friends didn't quite get the concept


  • #44
    ted1
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    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Every HGV I've ever seen has a sign on the back warning cyclists not to pass on the inside.

    But that does not prevent trucks approaching cyclists and pulling up along side them. Hence why many cyclists pull into the middle of the lane if they are st lights


  • #45
    ThisRegard
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    I remember the discussion now as to the point of the bike at that bridge.

    That route, the canal from east to west, was my regular commute for a few years, so pretty familiar with each junction at this stage. Was probably the most relaxed part of the cycle but I never dealt with crossing over the canal itself.


  • #46
    Unknown Soldier
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    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Every HGV I've ever seen has a sign on the back warning cyclists not to pass on the inside.
    ted1 wrote: »
    But that does not prevent trucks approaching cyclists and pulling up along side them. Hence why many cyclists pull into the middle of the lane if they are st lights


    Possibly the cyclist, amber gambled, going in front of the lorry, and lost.

    Possibly not.

    I saw that happen once in parkwest industrial estate.

    Cyclist went through an amber, but by the time he was halfway through the junction, he was in front of a high Cab lorry, with a green light.

    He was blessed and saved by the amount of people who hit their horns and startled the lorry driver.


  • #47
    Tenzor07
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    There's an awful lot of speculation as to what caused this incident, maybe some of you were witnesses?
    Anyone with information is asked to contact Donnybrook Garda Station 01-6669200 or the Garda Confidential Line 1800 666 111.


  • #48
    ThisRegard
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    I've seen people, walking, driving and cycling, underestimating the width an artic has to swing out when taking a 90 degree turn on a few occasions.


  • #49
    godtabh
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    Unknown Soldier wrote: »
    Agreed.

    And for legal reasons it is the right thing to do.

    It is a pity though that there is no database, post accidents, be they car, cyclist, farming, industrial etc that one can access to get the facts. Some cases are printed in the media post inquest but there are so many that are not.

    /

    There is a database of reported accidents, their cause and outcome. I see it referenced in reports I work on. Will check the source later


  • #50
    ted1
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    godtabh wrote: »
    There is a database of reported accidents, their cause and outcome. I see it referenced in reports I work on. Will check the source later

    Irishcycle did a report on last years accidents


  • #51
    godtabh
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    ted1 wrote: »
    Irishcycle did a report on last years accidents

    Is that just involving cyclists? This one covers all road accidents


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  • #52
    RainyDay
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    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Emmet Bridge, south end.

    Not the RSA. One of the online papers doing something like that.

    https://www.dublininquirer.com/2015/10/20/bicycle-collision-tracker/

    Great to hear that her injuries are not life-threatening, but don't underestimate the impact of non-life-threatening injuries. Non-life-threatening can still mean considerable pain, limited function, lots of drugs and therapies for years, or even for ever.


  • #53
    ted1
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    godtabh wrote: »
    Is that just involving cyclists? This one covers all road accidents

    Here's the one I was on about http://irishcycle.com/2016/01/04/cycling-deaths-on-irish-roads-return-to-single-digits-in-2015/


  • #54
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    No speculation over cause or fault is permitted here (including the circumstances resulting in this very unfortunate incident). The relevant authorities can draw their own conclusions

    Any questions PM a mod - do not respond in-thread

    Thanks


  • #55
    jimmycrackcorm
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    A relation of mine drives trucks in London. Some of the stories he told me are frightening. The trucks he drives have multiple cameras fitted, mostly for insurance purposes, but he has an in cab monitor. He told me about making a left turn where he checked mirrors before hand and just as he was turning he caught a fleeting glance of something in the monitor. He stopped and just then a moped popped up in front of him. From the time he looked in the mirrors to setting make the turn he had no opportunity to see it coming.


  • #56
    godtabh
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    I was talking about the RSA Collision Database

    Screenshot_2016_03_23_21_41_45.jpg

    It appears that since 2005 that junction is relatively safe


  • #57
    godtabh
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    Screenshot_2016_03_23_21_41_45.jpg


  • #58
    Tea drinker
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    In the past 2 weeks I have seen 2 accidents involving cyclists just before the bridge in Clonskeagh, I think both were relatively ok AFAIK, one did have 2 brigades and at least one ambulance there.
    The accident involving this unfortunate lady is only about 2 miles from there, basically the same road.
    Seems to be a horrible spate of accidents as I am undoubtedly seeing just a fraction.

    Hope the lady can go on to have a good quality of life
    Stay safe


  • #59
    TonyStark
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    Unknown Soldier wrote: »
    Agreed.

    And for legal reasons it is the right thing to do.

    It is a pity though that there is no database, post accidents, be they car, cyclist, farming, industrial etc that one can access to get the facts. Some cases are printed in the media post inquest but there are so many that are not.

    Really they should be, just to educate people. I can't help but think there is an unwritten policy in play, in this country, akin to playing down suicide.

    Hope the lady get s well soon and sorry to read you had to see that stuff WA :/

    Even the way accidents with cyclists are reported tend to go down the route of victim blaming. Even all fatal accidents were mapped out and then black spots easily identified.

    Just to put out into context our local residents association posted something to the effect that 30 odd children have been killed in housing estates over the last five years. The message is to get "fast drivers" to slow down. Very compelling till you start looking into the breakdown of children killed by their own parents or a relative.

    I just think the quality of data that the RSA produce can be unhelpful. Sure there are less deaths on the road since the 70s but factors like better cars never seem to come into play. Their metric for success seems exclusively confined to numbers of deaths.

    Perhaps a deterrent would be to actually publish the causes and assign blame from fatal accidents. It may be the wake up call that's needed.


  • #60
    pclive
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    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    The 5 axle ban is a transit ban, i.e. it only applies to trucks which are not loading/unloading within the ban area. This truck was involved with construction within the 5 axle ban area so it doesn't apply.

    Any 5+ axle vehicle making a load/unload delivery within the HGV cordon Area between 07:00-19:00hrs Mon-Sun requires a HGV permit.

    The HGV involved requires a permit to be within the cordon area.


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  • #61
    Fian
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    I pass through this junction daily on my commute, to head out through Ranelagh. Going home yesterday and riding over the powders that they have put down at the scene certainly brought home how vulnerable we are on the bikes, alot more so than passing the scene of two accidents I have had on this commute. Anyway that is a good thing i guess, i certainly found myself being more cautious than usual on my way home yesterday and on my way in this morning.

    I hope she makes a good recovery.


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