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Giving women time off for periods

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  • #122
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Sure lets just pay them a wage to sit at home and not work at all. And it better be the same as the male equivalent.. Jesus. If a man said I don't want you in the office when you are menstruating the internet would go mental.


  • #123
    MadDog76
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    mansize wrote: »
    He didn't though...

    He did though ...


  • #124
    Ice Maiden
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Sure lets just pay them a wage to sit at home and not work at all. And it better be the same as the male equivalent.. Jesus. If a man said I don't want you in the office when you are menstruating the internet would go mental.
    :confused:

    You need to calm down and read stuff.


  • #125
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Sure lets just pay them a wage to sit at home and not work at all. And it better be the same as the male equivalent.. Jesus. If a man said I don't want you in the office when you are menstruating the internet would go mental.

    Genuine question here, what is the male equivalent?


  • #126
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Ice Maiden wrote: »
    :confused:

    You need to calm down and read stuff.

    Perfectly calm, Just point out how ridiculous it is. I was amusing there would be talk of pay. :D


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  • #127
    darkpagandeath
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    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    Genuine question here, what is the male equivalent?

    Turning up for work that you are paid to do ? If you cant do that don't take the job ?


  • #128
    Speedwell
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    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    Genuine question here, what is the male equivalent?

    Good question. What is the male equivalent of having a uterus?


  • #129
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Turning up for work that you are paid to do ? If you cant do that don't take the job ?

    You should really read the thread before marching in like this.


  • #130
    LETHAL LADY
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Turning up for work that you are paid to do ? If you cant do that don't take the job ?

    I thought you meant the male equivalent to having a period. Btw I never missed a day of work due to having my period. I do know that mine were eased by the pill, which eventually nearly killed me through deep vein thrombosis, but thems are the breaks.


  • #131
    Tasden
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    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    I thought you meant the male equivalent to having a period. Btw I never missed a day of work due to having my period. I do know that mine were eased by the pill, which eventually nearly killed me through deep vein thrombosis, but thems are the breaks.

    This became such a fear of mine when I was on the pill, I became so paranoid about it. Scary stuff.


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  • #132
    The Backwards Man
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    I always think of this when I hear them mentioned.



  • #133
    LETHAL LADY
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    Speedwell wrote: »
    Good question. What is the male equivalent of having a uterus?

    Not really my question though and not asked with that kind of hostility either :confused:


  • #134
    maudgonner
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Sure lets just pay them a wage to sit at home and not work at all. And it better be the same as the male equivalent.. Jesus. If a man said I don't want you in the office when you are menstruating the internet would go mental.

    Let me direct your attention to this post:
    Mint Aero wrote: »
    I worked in a job few years back with mostly women. Had to leave in the end as the emotional outbursts weren't worth staying for. If you're a man working with women it would be a good idea to leave them at home monthly instead of bringing baggage like that into the work place. I'd be all in favour of this.

    Did the internet go mental? Nope, there was a small amount of mocking, but I don't believe anyone has set fire to anything just yet.


  • #135
    darkpagandeath
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    Tasden wrote: »
    This became such a fear of mine when I was on the pill, I became so paranoid about it. Scary stuff.

    Use a condom problem solved ? Not aware of any serious medical effects from that.


  • #136
    Speedwell
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    Tasden wrote: »
    This became such a fear of mine when I was on the pill, I became so paranoid about it. Scary stuff.

    Yeah, for a few reasons, my doctors in the US put their foot down and flatly refused to give me any kind of hormonal BC, so I got a non-hormonal IUD. Not the easiest, but definitely the best, decision I could have made. I had a somewhat uncomfortable breaking-in period (well, two periods lol) and I'll spare you the details, but taking a couple days off each time was definitely necessary. Things calmed down after that. (My Irish GP, who is so much better than my US doctors that I would believe him if he said the sun rose in the west, agrees that the pill is not for me.)


  • #137
    mud
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Use a condom problem solved ? Not aware of any serious medical effects from that.

    How would a condom help regulate painful periods?


  • #138
    Speedwell
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Use a condom problem solved ? Not aware of any serious medical effects from that.

    Anywhere from two to fifteen percent of the time over a year's average use, the side effect is pregnancy.
    How would a condom help regulate painful periods?

    That's how ;)


  • #139
    Tasden
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Use a condom problem solved ? Not aware of any serious medical effects from that.

    I wasn't aware condoms help regulate your periods??

    Edit:
    mud wrote: »
    How would a condom help regulate painful periods?

    Snap!


  • #140
    darkpagandeath
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    mud wrote: »
    How would a condom help regulate painful periods?

    Did I say it would ?
    Speedwell wrote: »
    Anywhere from two to fifteen percent of the time over a year's average use, the side effect is pregnancy.

    Are you saying the pill is 100% effective now ? The only effective way of not getting pregnant is not having vaginal sex.


  • #141
    LETHAL LADY
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Use a condom problem solved ? Not aware of any serious medical effects from that.

    Not what was said :confused:


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  • #142
    Speedwell
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Are you saying the pill is 100% effective now ? The only effective way of not getting pregnant is not having vaginal sex.

    No, not even not having a vagina is 100 percent effective, lol. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562 By the way, I have a copy of the report in question saved somewhere; this is not an urban legend. I know a woman who conceived and bore two full-term children after having her tubes tied. I know at least one woman who conceived after a full hysterectomy. Reproduction is desperately tenacious. You do the best you can.


  • #143
    mud
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Did I say it would ?


    Yes you did. You said to use a condom instead of the pill assuming that the only reason women use the pill is as a contraceptive. That's not the case.


  • #144
    Tasden
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Did I say it would ?


    Well then why did you advise me to use a condom as if it would solve my problem??


  • #145
    darkpagandeath
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    LETHAL LADY wrote: »
    Not what was said :confused:

    fear of death due to deep vein thrombosis was, I said using a condom solved that one. As I was not aware on any major medical issues with them.


  • #146
    darkpagandeath
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    mud wrote: »
    Yes you did. You said to use a condom instead of the pill assuming that the only reason women use the pill is as a contraceptive. That's not the case.

    No I did not, read again.


  • #147
    Tasden
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    fear of death due to deep vein thrombosis was, I said using a condom solved that one. As I was not aware on any major medical issues with them.

    K I'll break it down for you.

    I was on the pill to regulate my periods.
    Not for contraception.
    Condoms would have been of zero use to me.
    They wouldn't "solve" anything.


  • #148
    super_furry
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    Don't really see a problem with it as long as it would be understood that it's unpaid time off.

    There's no way that it would be justifiable to pay for those two or three days a month.


  • #149
    keeponhurling
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    I guess the husbands should also get a day or two off to care from the wives who are menstrating ?

    Some sort of carer's allowance from the state would soften the financial blow for the employer


  • #150
    Ice Maiden
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Perfectly calm
    Not really.

    The question has been put as to whether women should have menstrual leave - the question has only been asked; the development has not actually happened.
    The reason it has been asked is because some women (not all - certainly not me) get extremely sick during menstruation - it happens to some women for every menstrual period, it happens to others only occasionally. Like, agonising abdominal pains, repeated vomiting, fainting, fever, headaches, needing to be in bed for a couple of days as if they have the flu. Such women should certainly go for medical tests but women who do so, still encounter these issues during menstruation.

    Throughout this thread though, nearly everyone has agreed that there is no point in women being given menstrual leave, because not every woman needs it, and if a woman is extremely ill with her period, then she can take sick leave.
    Sure lets just pay them a wage to sit at home and not work at all.
    Nope, not one person even slightly implied that.
    And it better be the same as the male equivalent.
    Or that.
    If a man said I don't want you in the office when you are menstruating the internet would go mental.
    If he said he does not want a woman going to work when ill due to menstruation, fair enough by him. If he said he does not want her in the office just because she has her period, well yeah of course people would object to that. No man would say that though, because most managers are not going to know when staff members have their period.


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  • #151
    darkpagandeath
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    Speedwell wrote: »
    No, not even not having a vagina is 100 percent effective, lol. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562 By the way, I have a copy of the report in question saved somewhere; this is not an urban legend. I know a woman who conceived and bore two full-term children after having her tubes tied. I know at least one woman who conceived after a full hysterectomy. Reproduction is desperately tenacious. You do the best you can.

    Tiresome using 1 in a million events to try paint what I said as incorrect.


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