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Multiple Engagements + Same Family = Problem?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭nikkibikki


    If everyone were to live by those rules, nobody would ever get married! My husband's oldest brother got engaged around 6months after us. They set their date 6weeks after our wedding. We actually had 2 weddings to attend in between ours and theirs. A busy time but happy for everyone getting married!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    cmac2009 wrote: »
    It's easy to write out all that on a message board, but when it happens you can't help but being affected. Getting engaged is a very special moment, one which we share with your friends and family. When someone gets engaged the same week as you it slightly knocks the shine off the occasion. Maybe it is selfish. But as I said if your the type of person to do that to a friend it says a lot about what you think of them.

    You don't "do" anything to a friend when you get engaged. Seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭PinkLemonade


    If someone asks you to marry them, you can't really say no because Mary down the road just got engaged and would be offended, that's a ridiculous idea!

    Probably a good idea to leave a few weeks if your planning on proposing encase anyone's easily offended


  • Moderators Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭ChewChew


    When I got engaged it was just before the Christmas and in the January we had a family meal to celebrate and that was it. As a bride to be I didn't want any kind of "limelight" attention and couldn't have cared less if anyone close to me had gotten engaged at the same time. In my opinion, my engagement was for me and my partner. Anyone who passed congratulations was thanked and the bling was shown but I was glad when the excitement had worn off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Oswin


    Can't believe some of the responses here. One of my best friends got engaged a few days after me and I felt it only added to the excitement and happiness! Another close friend is getting married a couple of months before me and it's lovely to chat about dress shopping and venues with someone who is genuinely interested. I can understand not wanting to get married in the same month as a sibling for practical reasons but overall people should get engaged/ married when it's the right time for them as a couple.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Is it only me thinking that it would be extremely cool if all engagements for the year would be done on the same day so you can congratulate everyone and be done with it. About half of the couples will be divorced in ten years anyway. :D

    I don't think it matters when anyone gets engaged but it is great if couples coordinate a bit among themselves about the dates and locations. Two weddings in the middle of the week two weeks apart would be hard to attend. It's a common sense approach, you don't book the same venue and leave just a little bit of breathing time between the dates because it can be very stressful for everyone otherwise. But that is about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭Sligo1


    cmac2009 wrote: »
    I think it depends on the type of person, I wouldn't do it to a good friend. Other's obviously have no problem with it.

    What exactly would you be doing to a good friend? If a partner proposes unexpectedly and you wanted to marry him/her you're hardy going to say no!

    Tbh, some of the reponses on this thread are ridiculously self-indulgent and narcissistic. People are getting engaged for god sake... Be happy for them! I'm so glad I'm married and dont have to deal with this sh*te. I've travelled and lived elsewhere and As far as I'm aware this seems to be an Irish thing as I've not heard of this ridiculous selfish behaviour in any other country I've been in.

    ( P.s. I'm not generalising Irish people here as it's obvious plenty of people here don't think this way and and I'm Irish myself, merely saying this "convention" seems slightly less common elsewhere...).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    Sligo1 wrote: »
    What exactly would you be doing to a good friend? If a partner proposes unexpectedly and you wanted to marry him/her you're hardy going to say no!

    Tbh, some of the reponses on this thread are ridiculously self-indulgent and narcissistic. People are getting engaged for god sake... Be happy for them! I'm so glad I'm married and dont have to deal with this sh*te. I've travelled and lived elsewhere and As far as I'm aware this seems to be an Irish thing as I've not heard of this ridiculous selfish behaviour in any other country I've been in.

    I doubt there is many people on here that have got engaged a few days after one of their good friends did. As I said I wouldn't have proposed had a friend got engaged a few days before me. Maybe you would. Thats where we differ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭Sligo1


    cmac2009 wrote: »
    I doubt there is many people on here that have got engaged a few days after one of their good friends did. As I said I wouldn't have proposed had a friend got engaged a few days before me. Maybe you would. Thats where we differ.

    If my partner proposed to me a couple days after a friend of mine got engaged damn right I'd say yes... I'm not going to say sorry I can't... Mary's only just gotten engaged.... And funnily enough, the friends I have would be happy for me would you believe. But as I said, I'm married so that's irrelevant. If a good friend of mine got engaged the same week as I did, well by God is be delighted for them. Would make the planning so much more fun. But as I said... That's the kind of relationship I have with my friends. It's kinda selfless... Normal nearly.

    Some posters opinions on here are imo... A complete headwreck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Sligo1 wrote: »
    What exactly would you be doing to a good friend? If a partner proposes unexpectedly and you wanted to marry him/her you're hardy going to say no!

    Tbh, some of the reponses on this thread are ridiculously self-indulgent and narcissistic. People are getting engaged for god sake... Be happy for them! I'm so glad I'm married and dont have to deal with this sh*te. I've travelled and lived elsewhere and As far as I'm aware this seems to be an Irish thing as I've not heard of this ridiculous selfish behaviour in any other country I've been in.

    ( P.s. I'm not generalising Irish people here as it's obvious plenty of people here don't think this way and and I'm Irish myself, merely saying this "convention" seems slightly less common elsewhere...).

    I think you might be right. It's a cultural thing, possibly closer to USA than continental Europe. When we got engaged bf's family was excited and so on and my parents response was, why all the fuss, it's not like you set the date. Considering we are still not married (a house, dog and two kids later) their reaction was probably more realistic. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭Sligo1


    meeeeh wrote: »
    I think you might be right. It's a cultural thing, possibly closer to USA than continental Europe. When we got engaged bf's family was excited and so on and my parents response was, why all the fuss, it's not like you set the date. Considering we are still not married (a house, dog and two kids later) their reaction was probably more realistic. :D

    A good friend of mine got married 2 weeks after I did. And when she was making the date (she knew our date) she actually asked me if I thought her date was ok and was thy ok with me. I was like "why on earth are you asking me that!!!???" God love her... Life is short. Do what makes you happy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    Sligo1 wrote: »
    A good friend of mine got married 2 weeks after I did. And when she was making the date (she knew our date) she actually asked me if I thought her date was ok and was thy ok with me. I was like "why on earth are you asking me that!!!???" God love her... Life is short. Do what makes you happy!

    We did this. We got married last week and have a friends in eight days. They were so happy for us but I was nervous when we told them. I can't wait for her wedding. It's lovely to have something to look forward to so soon afterwards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭maisiedaisy


    I got engaged over a year and half after my sister did, 6 months before her wedding. She didn't speak to me for a month afterwards. We had no intention of setting a date until after her wedding, for our own reasons. I had no idea my fiancée was going to propose to me, but she blamed us both for 'ruining the build up to her wedding'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    I genuinely think it's insane that anyone would be miffed at a friend/family member getting engaged soon after them.

    To the poster who mentioned her SIL to be (I think it was) getting engaged a week after. How do you know it wasn't planned for that week? Maybe your fiancé pipped him to the post. However why should he have changed his plans just so your so called 'limelight' would remain? I think it's quite selfish for anyone to suggest that. They had been together 10 years so he may have had it planned alot longer than your guy did!

    Booking the wedding day within a few weeks of each other seems silly but I certainly wouldn't feel my limelight is being stolen.

    The important part to me is the marriage and its significance to me and my hubby to be, not the party.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    So maybe the OP's friend is going to have to propose to her boyfriend, just in case :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    I got engaged over a year and half after my sister did, 6 months before her wedding. She didn't speak to me for a month afterwards. We had no intention of setting a date until after her wedding, for our own reasons. I had no idea my fiancée was going to propose to me, but she blamed us both for 'ruining the build up to her wedding'.

    Wow. Just wow :-O


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    I wonder if it's "limelight" or much more practical and actually about the finance aspect for guests and the present fund from relations and mutual friends. Two weddings in close succession for relations could well mean they'll be feeling they have to buy two new outfits and then scrimp more on gifts.

    So it is the scrimping on gifts that is to be feared, I suspect...

    Does anyone apart from the couple who just got engaged really award them any "limelight" or "thunder"? I think most people say Congrats and forget about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    cmac2009 wrote: »
    I doubt there is many people on here that have got engaged a few days after one of their good friends did. As I said I wouldn't have proposed had a friend got engaged a few days before me. Maybe you would. Thats where we differ.

    But if that happens I really doubt it would be intentional. Maybe the second proposal was planned for ages, or they wanted it to be on a specific date. You would want someone to cancel their engagement of they heard a friend had gotten engaged? Why not just let everyone be happy!

    And with engagements and weddings, it's possible people have a planned time line for when they want to be engaged and married, and putting things off to suit someone else doesn't really make sense to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,105 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Total nonsense. My dad and his sister got married 3 months apart. It was 27 years ago but still I don't think it matters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Life's not a rehearsal folks!

    To the poster who said they wouldn't "do it to a friens" ie. would not propose in quick succession. What if something awful happened while you were waiting through their "limelight period". (Awful thoughts but what if you or your future fiance were in an accident).

    My point is life is not a rehearsal don't be waiting around over (let's face it) silly things like grown adults needing a period when only they can be engaged.

    Engagement is a special time for the engaged couples and their families. Someone else getting engaged at the same time does not make it less special.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    If you spent your life waiting what you thought was an appropriate time between engagements other people would just keep getting engaged ahead of you.

    We've had a constant stream of engagements among our siblings and friends for the last two years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭Sligo1


    But if that happens I really doubt it would be intentional. Maybe the second proposal was planned for ages, or they wanted it to be on a specific date. You would want someone to cancel their engagement of they heard a friend had gotten engaged? Why not just let everyone be happy!

    And with engagements and weddings, it's possible people have a planned time line for when they want to be engaged and married, and putting things off to suit someone else doesn't really make sense to me.

    Exactly. What if the proposal had been planned for ages for a specific date that meant something to the couple or was special for a particular reason. Would they just be expected to put that on hold just because a good friend unexpectedly got engaged a few days before? This sounds so unbelievably selfish to me. What if they had planned this date to get engaged (or married) as they wanted to start trying for children. They would be expected to put that on hold for a few months so their friend can feel "special" for a little longer. I actually just can't believe some of the posts here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I love the wedding forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Hermia


    I agree with a lot of posters on here - how the hell are grown women acting so childish? Stealing thunder, ruining the build up etc. It's absolutely ridiculous that people can't just be happy for other people when they're getting ready to get married!
    To be honest, after the initial phone calls and congratulations, I was getting a bit embarrassed with the constant demand to see the ring etc. It's supposed to be a special time for YOU AND YOUR FIANCÉ, if anyone else had got engaged after me I probably would have been a bit relieved! Then again, being the centre of attention isn't really for me, dunno how I'll handle the actual wedding!
    This reminds me of people who keep their plans for the wedding day top secret in case someone else "steals their ideas". Yeah ok , a few surprises for guests are always good, but some people take it to another level! Your engagement and wedding day are both unique to you and your partner because you are both unique individually and as a couple. Why can't people just be happy for each other and get on with it??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    Hermia wrote: »
    Why can't people just be happy for each other and get on with it??

    Some people are like that no matter what it's about. If they lose weight...oh god they're too skinny. If they get a new house..no way would I live there. If they land a new job...pfft Id rather work in Mcdonalds than work there.

    If they get engaged...well I did it first. It's not fair..why couldn't they be less selfish and wait?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Hermia


    Some people are like that no matter what it's about. If they lose weight...oh god they're too skinny. If they get a new house..no way would I live there. If they land a new job...pfft Id rather work in Mcdonalds than work there.

    Yeah you're right and it's totally childish and egotistical. Don't get me wrong, your wedding is about the two of you so a bit of ego has to play a part, but people wasting good energy by moaning and bitching about other people's business just grinds my gears!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭Miss Merry Berry


    Lesson learnt! I knew the usual cavalry on their high horses would gallop in and give advice on the way we should all live our lives and make us feel bad for God forbid having an opinion different to theirs and now I have to feel like a selfish person who goes around begrudging my friends and family for where they live, what they eat, what they work as. Yeah that's how I live my live! I really need to find a more positive forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    Lesson learnt! I knew the usual cavalry on their high horses would gallop in and give advice on the way we should all live our lives and make us feel bad for God forbid having an opinion different to theirs and now I have to feel like a selfish person who goes around begrudging my friends and family for where they live, what they eat, what they work as. Yeah that's how I live my live! I really need to find a more positive forum.

    Woah

    FYI I wasn't referring to you, it was a general statement as there are many people who cannot be happy for others, that's true. I don't know you so can't claim to know what your feeling is in general terms, but can only go by how you said you feel regarding engagements etc and it does come across as a little self indulgent and selfish. Sorry if that offends you but just how it looks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Weddings just bring out the worst in people... I have heard this many a time like well you cant get engaged now because so and so... Piffle piffle, it certainly would not bother me in the slightest but I know for a fact it does bother other people..

    They feel like you are taken some of their attention and making it about you rather than then..... Families are the worst,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    Hi all,

    OP here again. I was chatting my my friend last night and told her that I'd asked around (didnt say Boards necessarily) but that most people don't see an issue which made her feel better at least, and agreed that her boyf is likely completely oblivious to any "convention" in this area, so not to worry.

    I totally agree that while you should always try to be tactful in life, that its also not up to anyone to put their life on hold. Whatever about family, in a group of friends you possibly just have to go for it within reason, because you're likely all the same age, so if it has to be one at a time, it would take forever.

    As a couple, myself and my OH are going to 5 weddings this summer, and we actually have 3 in a row at one point (his friends, my friends, then his friends again). There is a bit of grumbling in his friendship group due to cost and logistics of having so many together for the same group of friends to attend (they're not all in Ireland) but I'm pretty sure thats the only reason, nothing to do with stolen thunder!


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