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Will you wear an Easter Lily?

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  • #32
    biko
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    I find that when an OP ask a question that can be answered with "yes" or "no" - a poll helps.

    Maybe it's just me..


  • #33
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Sure, I'll wear it with a remembrance poppy, a yellow cancer daffodil, a sprig of shamrock, a yellow friendship rose and a watermelon, wrapped with a pink ribbon for breast cancer awareness.

    Okay, sarcasm aside, I find the public displays of more patriotic than thou art a bit weird, so I doubt I will. The people that died for the 1916 Rising had a lot more to worry about than if someone in a century was going to wear a south African flower.


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
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    biko wrote: »
    I find that when an OP ask a question that can be answered with "yes" or "no" - a poll helps.

    Maybe it's just me..

    Good point. If a mod could edit one in, that'd be great.


  • #35
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    No, I wouldn't wear anything that glorifies war, I don't like to wear my politics on my chest either.


    But if others want to wear them then that's fine too.


  • #36
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I wear one every year and this year will be no different


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  • #37
    LordSutch
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    Poppy yes, Lily no . . . .

    Each to their own I guess.

    John Redmond, Home Rule act, little public support (for the Rising), stabbing the war effort in the back, all come into play for me, therefore I won't be wearing an Easter Lilly, but I won't be arguing or verbally abusing people who do either.

    I do understand the other side even if I don't subscribe to it.

    See tonight on RTE One @ 10:35 "The Enemy Files"


  • #38
    KingBrian2
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    An integral part of the rising was that unlike the First World War it was Voluntary. So while the poppy us used to commemorate the fallen soldiers for those that fought in 1916 the gesture of wearing the Lily as some sort of symbolism is unnecessary besides we have the far less controversial Shamrock for St Patrick's Day.


  • #39
    Yamanoto
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    They maintain the graves of Irish Republicans who died in the pursuit of the Irish Republic.

    And the graves of those who engaged in violence (against the will of the Irish people), long after that republic had been established.


  • #40
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    LordSutch wrote: »
    John Redmond

    The guy was an oddball who encouraged Irish people to become cannon-fodder for the British in their big inbred feud with their cousins known as 'The Great War'. What a hero.
    little public support (for the Rising)

    Pro-Union propaganda
    stabbing the war effort in the back

    The British war effort was their concern. The only stabbing done was bayonets in the guts of young Irish people encouraged by John Redmond to make blood-sacrifice to gain that which the British had no right to deny them.
    See tonight on RTE One @ 10:35 "The Enemy Files"

    For the reprobate British establishment view no doubt.

    Did you see Anglo-Irish Captain Bowen Colthurst shooting a child dead on 'Insurrection' last night?


  • #41
    Buona Fortuna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Pollen from lillies can make an awful mess of soft furnishings


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  • #42
    Nidgeweasel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    It will brighten up my balaclava.


  • #43
    youreadthat
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    I think we should treat all flowers equally.


  • #44
    galljga1
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    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    Pollen from lillies can make an awful mess of soft furnishings

    I woke up with a yellow head after a night on the lash, no clue how it happened. It came back to me that their were vases of lilys on the bar in the Mercantile just above head height.


  • #45
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    An integral part of the rising was that unlike the First World War it was Voluntary..

    Just for accuracy, there was no conscription in Ireland at this point. So, any Irish fighting in WWI were volunteers.


  • #46
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    seamus wrote: »
    No, just the graves of those they consider patriots and republican war heroes. Including those who were still carrying out attacks on the UK after the establishment of the Irish Free State.

    How can you maintain the grave of someone who is still alive?


  • #47
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Some years ago bought pin on ebay and will wear it . all the other doyles will wear the paper version


  • #48
    A Dub in Glasgo
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    allthedoyles wrote: »
    Some years ago bought pin on ebay and will wear it . all the other doyles will wear the paper version

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  • #49
    osarusan
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    No, I never wear anything symbolising/commemorating/celebrating any special event/day.


  • #50
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    An integral part of the rising was that unlike the First World War it was Voluntary. So while the poppy us used to commemorate the fallen soldiers for those that fought in 1916 the gesture of wearing the Lily as some sort of symbolism is unnecessary besides we have the far less controversial Shamrock for St Patrick's Day.

    There was no conscription in Ireland the 200,000 Irishmen went to fight voluntarily


  • #51
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #52
    doolox
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    I do not subscribe to any war like commemoration and I am of the belief that we as a nation would have been better off with home rule as achieved in 1914 but delayed by the 14-18 war.

    As Collins said the home rule arrangement gave Ireland the freedom to achieve freedom, but the hotheads and violent people on both sides have cocked things up.

    The Joe Duffy show today had a woman on the radio criticising the listing of all the dead of 1916 to 1922 on a wall plaque in Glasnevin cemetary because the republican dead would be mixed in with the civilian dead and the British dead.

    She was so full of hatred and bitterness for the "enemy" when the truth is that 1916 was a tragedy and all the dead deserve equal and non judgmental remembrance at this distant remove from a historical event.

    I have been very lucky to be born in a generation that did not suffer death or injury from historical events. There are no "good" deaths or "bad" deaths just as there are no good countries or bad countries. People get tied up in historical tragedies for which most are not responsible for. Most are doing their duty at a particular time.


  • #53
    billyhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,648 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    No I don't associate in anyway with a bunch of murderers (no better then terrorists)


  • #54
    Nodin
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    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    How can you maintain the grave of someone who is still alive?

    They were Vampires. Used to have to fly back to the grave everynight, hence "flying column".


  • #55
    Nodin
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    doolox wrote: »
    I do not subscribe to any war like commemoration and I am of the belief that we as a nation would have been better off with home rule as achieved in 1914 but delayed by the 14-18 war.

    As Collins said the home rule arrangement gave Ireland the freedom to achieve freedom, but the hotheads and violent people on both sides have cocked things up.

    The Joe Duffy show today had a woman on the radio criticising the listing of all the dead of 1916 to 1922 on a wall plaque in Glasnevin cemetary because the republican dead would be mixed in with the civilian dead and the British dead.

    She was so full of hatred and bitterness for the "enemy" when the truth is that 1916 was a tragedy and all the dead deserve equal and non judgmental remembrance at this distant remove from a historical event.

    I have been very lucky to be born in a generation that did not suffer death or injury from historical events. There are no "good" deaths or "bad" deaths just as there are no good countries or bad countries. People get tied up in historical tragedies for which most are not responsible for. Most are doing their duty at a particular time.

    He didn't. You're thinking of something else later on.

    If you can name a war monument in another country where the enemy are listed alongside the nations own fighters I'd like to know .


  • #56
    Buona Fortuna
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    doolox wrote: »
    I do not subscribe to any war like commemoration and I am of the belief that we as a nation would have been better off with home rule as achieved in 1914 but delayed by the 14-18 war.

    As Collins said the home rule arrangement gave Ireland the freedom to achieve freedom, but the hotheads and violent people on both sides have cocked things up.

    The Joe Duffy show today had a woman on the radio criticising the listing of all the dead of 1916 to 1922 on a wall plaque in Glasnevin cemetary because the republican dead would be mixed in with the civilian dead and the British dead.

    She was so full of hatred and bitterness for the "enemy" when the truth is that 1916 was a tragedy and all the dead deserve equal and non judgmental remembrance at this distant remove from a historical event.

    I have been very lucky to be born in a generation that did not suffer death or injury from historical events. There are no "good" deaths or "bad" deaths just as there are no good countries or bad countries. People get tied up in historical tragedies for which most are not responsible for. Most are doing their duty at a particular time.

    Agree, and I know we bang on about the "spat in the GPO", but 1916 was also the year of Verdun and the Somme - absofeckinlutely huge in comparison.


  • #57
    Buona Fortuna
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    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I bet that will garner quite a crowd. How about wearing one alight?

    Let me know when you're doing it, I'll come and watch.


  • #58
    Iwasfrozen
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    No, because I'm not a big 'RA head


  • #59
    flas
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    doolox wrote: »
    I do not subscribe to any war like commemoration and I am of the belief that we as a nation would have been better off with home rule as achieved in 1914 but delayed by the 14-18 war.

    As Collins said the home rule arrangement gave Ireland the freedom to achieve freedom, but the hotheads and violent people on both sides have cocked things up.

    The Joe Duffy show today had a woman on the radio criticising the listing of all the dead of 1916 to 1922 on a wall plaque in Glasnevin cemetary because the republican dead would be mixed in with the civilian dead and the British dead.

    She was so full of hatred and bitterness for the "enemy" when the truth is that 1916 was a tragedy and all the dead deserve equal and non judgmental remembrance at this distant remove from a historical event.

    I have been very lucky to be born in a generation that did not suffer death or injury from historical events. There are no "good" deaths or "bad" deaths just as there are no good countries or bad countries. People get tied up in historical tragedies for which most are not responsible for. Most are doing their duty at a particular time.

    Home rule was all pillow talk,the nationalists were being told one thing and the unionists another,the unionist side of the coin were told in no uncertain terms there would be no home rule and were given the exact same reassurances the nationalist side was that it was definitely going to happen! It was a dirty,underhanded,tricky time in the Empire, and all that came out of it was the Empire fell,spectacularly in the end, in a large part due to the double crossing and false promises given to allies and enemies alike.


  • #60
    A Dub in Glasgo
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    No

    Now there is the shock of the thread


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  • #61
    quadrifoglio verde
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    I won't be wearing one. There are three colours in our tricolour, the one I place the greatest importance on is white.
    Sadly in my opinion the Easter Lily has been hijacked to remember those who were against that peace

    Had it not been hijacked as a symbol to remember dead provos, then I certainly would wear one


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