'Draining' the Shannon

ClovenHoof · 10-03-2016 06:37PM #1

The other night in Clare I went into a pub and encountered some people who were literally hysterical at the idea of pipeline being run from the Shannon to Dublin in order to offset the decreasing water supply in the capital.

Their whole attitude was one of 'the Dublin gubbermint is staylin our warsher.' as if each county and region of our fair isle had a personal ownership of the natural resources that are present within it.

I played Devil's Advocate stating that the pipeline might use up so much water that the annual flooding of the Shannon could be avoided in places such as Clare. A win-win for the whole country. They were having none of it! Dublin was robbing the Whest's water out of their children's cots and that was that.

I came away feeling very depressed. Not only did it show me that the Parish Pump is so ingrained in Irish people that any chance of pulling together as a nation is impossible, but also the inherent childishness of our people. No maturity, common sense or even a relaxed attitude of mature examination of the project.

Country is Fugked.

suicide_circus · 10-03-2016 06:39PM

do they want all their kids and grandkids in Dublin to go without water?

James Bond Junior · 10-03-2016 06:42PM

They turk errrrr jaaaaabbbbbbsssss!!!

Duckworth_Luas · 10-03-2016 06:44PM

No Garth Brooks so no water dickbags!

Lights On · 10-03-2016 06:45PM

I had an ex girlfriend called Shannon and she was a squirter. Used to a do a lot of draining myself back in the day!

DrumSteve · 10-03-2016 06:46PM

Thread title is a Euphenism.

10-03-2016 06:49PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Thread title is a Euphenism.

I thought the same thing

jobbridge4life · 10-03-2016 06:49PM

It would be interesting to see an analysis of the redistribution of wealth from the capital to the remainder of the country.

The Helpful Engineer · 10-03-2016 06:52PM

It is depressing. However there is an information campaign started by Irish Water which will help with concerns that the locals have. I saw some of the information at an Institute of Structural Engineers event in DIT this week. The following is some of the facts I remember about the proposed scheme:

The Shannon river flows at a rate of between 160 (minimum) and 1000 (maximum) cubic metres per second at Parteen where the planned extraction point will be located.

The plan is to extract 4 cubic metres per second of water. Treat it at a large facility at Parteen and pump treated water to Dublin in a 2.3m diameter pipe.

The water pipe will serve towns along the way.

It will be pumped uphill to an area around offaly and fall by gravity to Dublin.

The water will be bought off the ESB as they have a right to the water by law to generate electricity except for 10 cubic metres per second to maintain the water levels in the old river course at Parteen and 0.7 cms for the fish pass at the Ardnacrusa dam.

A % of the capital budget would be spent on local environmental issues to provide more of an incentive to locals to accept the scheme.

somuj · 10-03-2016 06:52PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

It would be interesting to see an analysis of the redistribution of wealth from the capital to the remainder of the country.

It would be interesting to see an analysis of the redistribution of food from the country to the capital.

diomed · 10-03-2016 06:54PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

It would be interesting to see an analysis of the redistribution of wealth from the capital to the remainder of the country.

Let's imagine Bill Gates $79.2 billion wealth was redistributed among the 318.9 million in the USA. That is $248 for each person.
My guess is a redistribution of "the wealth" of the wealthiest in Ireland to the whingers would give about €100 each.

daveyeh · 10-03-2016 06:58PM

Inbred freaks

Banned.

Wompa1 · 10-03-2016 07:03PM

daveyeh wrote: »

Inbred freaks

Oh, you! :pac: If both of your parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc are/were Irish, you are likely pretty inbred yourself.

Magico Gonzalez · 10-03-2016 07:47PM

somuj wrote: »

It would be interesting to see an analysis of the redistribution of food from the country to the capital.

Sure, once the money that goes the other direction to pay for the food is taken into account or is there some culchie aid charity that sends free food into to feed the starving jackeens?

The Moldy Gowl · 10-03-2016 07:49PM

What part of Clare? Guessing it wasn't along the Shannon?

Those places that flooded around limerick in December? They are still flooded, Particulary clonlara.

jobbridge4life · 10-03-2016 07:58PM

somuj wrote: »

It would be interesting to see an analysis of the redistribution of food from the country to the capital.

You mean the food paid for via corporate welfare to farmers and then re-payed for via consumers?

jobbridge4life · 10-03-2016 08:53PM

diomed wrote: »

Let's imagine Bill Gates $79.2 billion wealth was redistributed among the 318.9 million in the USA. That is $248 for each person.
My guess is a redistribution of "the wealth" of the wealthiest in Ireland to the whingers would give about €100 each.

I'm guessing (and I know I'm right) that you're a rightist when it comes to tax matters. Thats fine. More power to you. But if you can look past your innate aversion to the term 'redistribution' you might work out what I was actually trying to say.

Elemonator · 10-03-2016 08:54PM

Do they have personal ownership over our state resources? No. Dublin bankrolls them.

Easca Peasca · 10-03-2016 08:57PM

Elemonator wrote: »

Do they have personal ownership over our state resources? No. Dublin bankrolls them.

Bankrolls who? Everyone who lives past the Red Cow?

OneEightSeven · 10-03-2016 09:29PM

Rural Ireland needs to realise their lifestyles are being subsidised by the urban tax-payers: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/urban-taxpayers-subsidising-rural-homeowners-could-cause-property-tax-backlash-262606.html

They also need to realise those rivers have existed long before humans colonised this islands, so they don't own them. Then they start moaning about slow broadband and how they entitled to fibre at the expense of the tax-payer.

Seen as their lifestyles are being subsidised, then Dublin id more than entitled to pump water from the Shannon.

pickarooney · 10-03-2016 09:40PM

ClovenHoof wrote: »

The other night in Clare I went into a pub and encountered some people who were literally hysterical at the idea of pipeline being run from the Shannon to Dublin in order to offset the decreasing water supply in the capital.

Their whole attitude was one of 'the Dublin gubbermint is staylin our warsher.' as if each county and region of our fair isle had a personal ownership of the natural resources that are present within it.

I played Devil's Advocate stating that the pipeline might use up so much water that the annual flooding of the Shannon could be avoided in places such as Clare. A win-win for the whole country. They were having none of it! Dublin was robbing the Whest's water out of their children's cots and that was that.

I came away feeling very depressed. Not only did it show me that the Parish Pump is so ingrained in Irish people that any chance of pulling together as a nation is impossible, but also the inherent childishness of our people. No maturity, common sense or even a relaxed attitude of mature examination of the project.

Country is Fugked.

Keep yer feckin Paris pump away from our river, let ye!

ClovenHoof · 10-03-2016 11:19PM

The Moldy Gowl wrote: »

What part of Clare? Guessing it wasn't along the Shannon?

Those places that flooded around limerick in December? They are still flooded, Particulary clonlara.

Ennis

dxhound2005 · 11-03-2016 12:44AM

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Rural Ireland needs to realise their lifestyles are being subsidised by the urban tax-payers: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/urban-taxpayers-subsidising-rural-homeowners-could-cause-property-tax-backlash-262606.html

They also need to realise those rivers have existed long before humans colonised this islands, so they don't own them. Then they start moaning about slow broadband and how they entitled to fibre at the expense of the tax-payer.

Seen as their lifestyles are being subsidised, then Dublin id more than entitled to pump water from the Shannon.

The Shannon certainly has been there for a long time. It's name comes from Sean Abhainn, old river, like Old Man River in America. Not a lot of people know that.

Anyway it belongs to Cavan, because they started it.

Guy:Incognito · 11-03-2016 12:52AM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Anyway it belongs to Cavan, because they started it.

Yeah but they werent able to look after it, it leaked out all over the place.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 11-03-2016 12:57AM

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Rural Ireland needs to realise their lifestyles are being subsidised by the urban tax-payers: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/urban-taxpayers-subsidising-rural-homeowners-could-cause-property-tax-backlash-262606.html

They also need to realise those rivers have existed long before humans colonised this islands, so they don't own them. Then they start moaning about slow broadband and how they entitled to fibre at the expense of the tax-payer.

Seen as their lifestyles are being subsidised, then Dublin id more than entitled to pump water from the Shannon.

Good broadband for the whole country is a worthwhile expense.

I don't think the opening post reflects rural Ireland in its entirety.Some people in a pub are hardly representative of rural Ireland in general.

I'd imagine the silent majority would quite like part of the Shannon to be drained so it might help reduce flooding.

And without people being essentially forced to move to Dublin from rural Ireland to Dublin wouldn't have such dominance on the country's economy.

These rural urban arguments are rather tiresome and I've always found it strange that TD's from urban areas like Tony Gregory were admired whereas the Healy-Raes have scorn heaped upon them even though they are basically the same type of politician i.e looking after their own constituents first and foremost.

hytrogen · 11-03-2016 01:04AM

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Thankfully no warning today but I certainly wouldn't have wanted to swim in some parts of the Shannon in previous seasons, least drink the purified water from it..
Bloody effluents & phosphate contaminants from farmers spreading fertilisers at the wrong times poisoning the rivers, fisheries & estuaries...

dreamers75 · 11-03-2016 01:11AM

Whinge about the water coming in, whinge about the water going out.

Country folk.....

Ally Dick · 11-03-2016 01:16AM

It might reduce their flooding problems

jimgoose · 11-03-2016 01:19AM

Brendan Behan was right. Tell Paddy it's raining soup, and out he comes with a fork.

dxhound2005 · 11-03-2016 01:22AM

hytrogen wrote: »

[url]Http://splash.epa.ie/#National[/url]
Thankfully no warning today but I certainly wouldn't have wanted to swim in some parts of the Shannon in previous seasons, least drink the purified water from it..
Bloody effluents & phosphate contaminants from farmers spreading fertilisers at the wrong times poisoning the rivers, fisheries & estuaries...

All your bodily waste, and all those shampoos and soaps you are using, and all the bleaches and washing powders being used in your house, are being removed from your waste water. And then they send it back to your house for you to make your tea. How do you feel about that?

MacauDragon · 11-03-2016 03:38AM

Im lost in these arguments.

(looks for community text alert yoke)

'Draining' the Shannon

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