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UFC 196: McGregor v Diaz

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    We know that now. Lawler would murder him. Wonder what's next. Can they still justify a 155 title shot?

    Short answer, no. He has to defend against Frankie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    You could tell one minute before he lost he was done for, that hit really knocked him out even though he was still on his feet. He was gone.. Then he just started getting battered even more. Like others have said he went for the takedown in desperation cause he would have been knocked out if he kept standing up.

    Just got outclassed tonight not much else to say. That Diaz lad is a hardy bollox


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    To lose to a guy fighting on 10 days notice is a killer. Huge blow to his marketability.

    Nah, he'll just pull the whole "moved up too far" excuse, can't see it having a huge impact at all, in fact, being exposed on the ground like that could make him more marketable, it's not only people wanting to see him fight that makes him money it's about people wanting to see him lose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Billy86 wrote: »
    What was the correlation he had again when he was on that scoring streak?

    People kept dying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭shrapnel222


    That was brilliant. Lol, loved it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    How am I supposed top go to sleep now. I was literally flagging, barely able to keep my eyes open for last 2 hours, now my heart is beating like a train


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Shut down the poll, quick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,378 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    Can they still justify a 155 title shot?
    No imo, back to fight Frankie at 145 is the money fight now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,106 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Billy86 wrote: »
    What was the correlation he had again when he was on that scoring streak?

    Famous people kept on dying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    Was it just me or was there a lack of talk from Kavanagh between the 1st and 2nd round?

    Lack of talk from Conor at the end of the first round, it was like he was winded. Kavanagh said something like "Full recovery now" as if to say you'r'e alright.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Just made my vote in the poll.



    *ehem*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,605 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Conor out played at his own game, then went to the ground out of desperation. I knew Diaz had the striking skill and power to cause Conor problems. Diaz reach also caused him big problems. Unfortunately for Conor when he did manage to land, his strikes were not as powerful at this weight it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    God, I love the Diaz brothers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,009 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Nate isn't even considered a massive puncher but one of his shots in the middle of the 2nd round really stunned Conor. Was struggling to recover after it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭crybaby


    Nate beat the **** out of him and exposed his lack of ground game AGAIN.

    Ah cmon the loss has very little to do with his ground game, he got hit by big punches and went for the take down out of sheer desperation. Once he fell to the ground he had nothing left. He started the second round very well for the first two minutes or so but once he got rocked that first time he started wobbling and you could see it was either a case of him clinging on to the end of the round or Diaz finishing him off. You could see the difference when he loses the reach advantage although he still landed a lot of shots, he was trying to force the finish too much in the 2nd and paid for it, needed to be more patient, got sloppy and paid the price.

    It was a very entertaining fight and well done to Nate Diaz. I hope Conor is humble in defeat and it will be interesting to see how he bounces back. It was a brave move on his part to go up two weight divisions, going to be interesting to see where he ends up. Hats off to Diaz again, took the fight on short notice and finished him well. Will be interesting to see how all of Conor's new fans react to the loss as well, I will certainly be cheering him on when the RDA fight rolls around, I hope there isn't a cheap backlash against him for losing one fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭sonic85


    The aura is gone now anyway. There's blood in the water. The next fight will tell a lot but everything up until this point has gone his way - be interesting to see how he bounces back.

    Dana is livid I'd say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Huge blow for conor, can't even see the dos anjos fight happening now. His mat skills are so poor, diaz demolished him when he got him on his back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Famous people kept on dying

    Not all the time, and the fame was pretty weak at times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,992 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    What's the saying?

    A good big one beats a good little one every time.

    Nate didn't even look like he was in great condition. Wheels off the hype train for the next while


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    McGregor Humbled today.

    Thought a lesson at higher weight classes.

    Still Champ of 145.

    I wonder does he go for 155 or back to 145


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    This loss makes no difference to McGregor's marketability. He's still the big moneyfight for anyone from 145-170 and they will still all want to fight him. He still has a fight with RDA and title fight at 145 if he wants to make the weight again.

    Absolute worst case scenario for him is he gets one or two more 10+ million dollar paydays.

    The haters are all delighted to see him lose but he is still winning where it really counts.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Second Toughest in_the Freshers


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Shuy down the poll, quick

    I thought it'd be submission in the third


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Hype train = over, very disappointed but in a way happy to shut up the people that think he's superhuman. There were question marks over his wrestling and grappling, and well there you have it. Have to say I was surprised to see him rocked on the feet though. The Conor train has been great but it will never be the same again, RDA, Edgar, Ferguson and many others beat him easily once it hits the mat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    rob316 wrote: »
    Huge blow for conor, can't even see the dos anjos fight happening now. His mat skills are so poor, diaz demolished him when he got him on his back.

    He was hardly in any state to even attempt to defend himself, he was all over the place, hence why it was so easy on the ground. Im fairly sure had he not been nearly unconscious he would never have given up like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    When you think about how effectively Dos Anjos beat Diaz, Conor probably should not fight him for a while. Or now while he has a broken foot...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 215 ✭✭ceecee14


    The gazzelle ate the lion..


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Polo_Mint wrote: »
    McGregor Humbled today.

    Thought a lesson at higher weight classes.

    Still Champ of 145.

    I wonder does he go for 155 or back to 145

    I'd say dropping down to 145 from 168 would be too much of a drop, I'd say he'll got for the 155 belt at UFC 200 (assuming both fighters aren't injured)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    In all fairness it was a stupid fight to take at his weight

    His coach, him and his partners should have warned him.

    Silly carry on just for the theatrics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭Lights On


    God, I love the Diaz brothers.

    I'm totally gutted for Conor, but I genuinely can't think of anyone I'd rather have beaten him!

    Big bags of weed getting bought tonight :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Called it in the poll. Nate obviously wasn't out of shape if he has been training for a Triathlon. I didn't like Conor's jibes at Nate for being broke and the 'balloon animal' rubbish so glad to see him fall on his pampered ass.

    'I am humble in victory and defeat'. No you're not, nobody gloats more in victory.

    Conor should go back down and get that fight with Edgar.


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