Off Topic Thread too point uh

b.gud · 03-03-2016 02:12PM

b.gud wrote: »

In the past week at the gym I have seem an old guy wearing , trousers, a shirt, jumper and flat cap, and a hipster wearing a rain mac and tartan leggings doing workouts!
I kinda hope this trend continues as it certainly makes trips to the gym more interesting

Rain Mac hipster is today sporting a lovely shirt and slacks combo, charity shop chic obviously.

However my internal laughing soon faded when I saw he was benching about 20 kg more than I would.

mfceiling · 03-03-2016 02:30PM

b.gud wrote: »

Rain Mac hipster is today sporting a lovely shirt and slacks combo, charity shop chic obviously.

However my internal laughing soon faded when I saw he was benching about 20 kg more than I would.

Do you even lift bro...

Zzippy · 03-03-2016 03:11PM

b.gud wrote: »

Rain Mac hipster is today sporting a lovely shirt and slacks combo, charity shop chic obviously.

However my internal laughing soon faded when I saw he was benching about 20 kg more than I would.

Look around for the hidden video camera. You're about to star in a viral video with your reaction to his "hilarious" antics...

awec · 03-03-2016 03:12PM

b.gud wrote: »

Rain Mac hipster is today sporting a lovely shirt and slacks combo, charity shop chic obviously.

However my internal laughing soon faded when I saw he was benching about 20 kg more than I would.

So he was benching 21kg?

b.gud · 03-03-2016 04:30PM

awec wrote: »

So he was benching 21kg?

Nah after a year I've gotten my 1 rep max up to 22 kg :cool:

awec · 03-03-2016 04:34PM

b.gud wrote: »

Nah after a year I've gotten my 1 rep max up to 22 kg :cool:

I could probably do 30 reps of 1kg. I think this means I win?

30 x 1 > 1 x 22.

thomond2006 · 03-03-2016 05:11PM

Can someone explain to me why we voted against abolishing the gravy train known as Seanad Eireann?

Podge_irl · 03-03-2016 05:19PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why we voted against abolishing the gravy train known as Seanad Eireann?

Because having a second house is generally a good idea. Their outright refusal to reform it when that was clearly what people wanted was the problem.

errlloyd · 03-03-2016 05:21PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why we voted against abolishing the gravy train known as Seanad Eireann?

I think people just generally get a kick voting against Enda Kenny.

On a serious note, the Seanad has potential but no one seems willing to reform it.

Bazzo · 03-03-2016 05:36PM

Podge_irl wrote: »

Because having a second house is generally a good idea. Their outright refusal to reform it when that was clearly what people wanted was the problem.

I and a lot of people I know voted against abolishing the Seanad under the impression that if it stayed it was going to be reformed. How wrong we were.

Having 2 houses is a really good idea in any system, it just has to be done right.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 03-03-2016 05:48PM

Bazzo wrote: »

I and a lot of people I know voted against abolishing the Seanad under the impression that if it stayed it was going to be reformed. How wrong we were.
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BIt like the Scott voting to stay in the UK after Gordon Brown galloped up and promised them this that and the other thing. 18 months later they haven't gotten a damn thing bar the threat of being yanked out of Europe.

wp_rathead · 03-03-2016 06:03PM

It is absolutely disgusting how only certain people get a vote for the Seanad imo
David "What is wrong with elitism" Norris can fnck right off with regards this aspect to Seanad

Zzippy · 03-03-2016 06:11PM

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

BIt like the Scott voting to stay in the UK after Gordon Brown galloped up and promised them this that and the other thing. 18 months later they haven't gotten a damn thing bar the threat of being yanked out of Europe.

If the UK does vote to leave, while the Scots vote to stay in, that might be the nudge to get them over the line with another referendum. A vivid illustration of how powerful England is over their 4 million or so would be a big incentive to many who voted against independence before to change their minds.

wp_rathead wrote: »

It is absolutely disgusting how only certain people get a vote for the Seanad imo
David "What is wrong with elitism" Norris can fnck right off with regards this aspect to Seanad

I say, bloody peasants and their jumped up ideas - one man one vote, how ridiculous old chum! And as for these muck savage county councillors electing more plebs to our beloved Senate, the horror!

swiwi_ · 03-03-2016 06:25PM

wp_rathead wrote: »

It is absolutely disgusting how only certain people get a vote for the Seanad imo
David "What is wrong with elitism" Norris can fnck right off with regards this aspect to Seanad

I totally disagree. The Seanad should be full of people who (at least in theory) should know what they are doing.

Popular vote might mean no potholes in Kerry, but would I trust a Healy-Rae to understand or even care about the finer points of policy and the law?

There is no way you can trust Joe Public to put the right sort of people into a 2nd house.

What it does need though is a system that appoints people on merit not for political favours.

Podge_irl · 03-03-2016 06:44PM

Pointless to have a second house elected the same way as the first. Though the Taoiseach's picks are a joke and used far too often to just reward colleagues or friends.

errlloyd · 03-03-2016 06:49PM

Podge_irl wrote: »

Pointless to have a second house elected the same way as the first. Though the Taoiseach's picks are a joke and used far too often to just reward colleagues or friends.

In theory they could be the most useful part of the Seanad.

He make two ministerial appointments from the Seanad and the Ceann Comhairle. So he could theoretically just go ahead right now and make BOD Minister for Sport.

Podge_irl · 03-03-2016 06:56PM

errlloyd wrote: »

In theory they could be the most useful part of the Seanad.

He make two ministerial appointments from the Seanad and the Ceann Comhairle. So he could theoretically just go ahead right now and make BOD Minister for Sport.

Could be sure. They reached their nadir when Bertie appointed that journalist who was nice to him and didn't look into his rampant corruption.

I'm sure the original plan was for precisely the kind of thing you suggest - bringing in expertise.

Teferi · 03-03-2016 07:13PM

A reformed Seanad would be a better option than an abolished Seanad, for me. I can understand the arguments for abolishment though.

errlloyd · 03-03-2016 07:14PM

Podge_irl wrote: »

Could be sure. They reached their nadir when Bertie appointed that journalist who was nice to him and didn't look into his rampant corruption.

I'm sure the original plan was for precisely the kind of thing you suggest - bringing in expertise.

Garret Fitzgerald used it to appoint Jim Dooge as Minister for Foreign Affairs back in the day. Which is basically THE case study on how the appointees can be used correctly.

Zzippy · 03-03-2016 08:47PM

Podge_irl wrote: »

Could be sure. They reached their nadir when Bertie appointed that journalist who was nice to him and didn't look into his rampant corruption.

I'm sure the original plan was for precisely the kind of thing you suggest - bringing in expertise.

I think the nadir was actually when Enda Kenny got a FG councillor onto the board of IMMA for like a day so he could be appointed to the arts panel of the Seanad. Complete abuse of the State boards appointment system and of the Seanad. Given his campaign to abolish the Seanad, it really showed the disregard he has for the upper house.

03-03-2016 08:50PM

Zzippy wrote: »

I think the nadir was actually when Enda Kenny got a FG councillor onto the board of IMMA for like a day so he could be appointed to the arts panel of the Seanad. Complete abuse of the State boards appointment system and of the Seanad. Given his campaign to abolish the Seanad, it really showed the disregard he has for the upper house.

I was so annoyed by that. Both main parties are always at it and it's a disgrace. It's done in full public view too. How they think it's remotely acceptable.

wp_rathead · 03-03-2016 10:28PM

swiwi_ wrote: »

I totally disagree. The Seanad should be full of people who (at least in theory) should know what they are doing.

Popular vote might mean no potholes in Kerry, but would I trust a Healy-Rae to understand or even care about the finer points of policy and the law?

There is no way you can trust Joe Public to put the right sort of people into a 2nd house.

What it does need though is a system that appoints people on merit not for political favours.

It is beyond undemocratic allowing only those who graduated from certain universities to vote in them
Sits very uneasy with me how this is seen acceptable

irishbucsfan · 03-03-2016 10:34PM

wp_rathead wrote: »

It is beyond undemocratic allowing only those who graduated from certain universities to vote in them
Sits very uneasy with me how this is seen acceptable

Don't worry, I totally agree and I'm sure you're not in a minority. The whole thing is bizarre to me, including the fact people were convinced to vote to keep it.

vienne86 · 03-03-2016 10:35PM

wp_rathead wrote: »

It is beyond undemocratic allowing only those who graduated from certain universities to vote in them
Sits very uneasy with me how this is seen acceptable

You're right - it makes no sense. Some graduates have no vote, some have one vote and some have two.......all based on what colleges they went to.

Podge_irl · 03-03-2016 10:38PM

wp_rathead wrote: »

It is beyond undemocratic allowing only those who graduated from certain universities to vote in them
Sits very uneasy with me how this is seen acceptable

Ah I think that element of it is fairly weird. I have less of an issue with how the other seats are decided. Though really the whole thing could/should be changed but it would be pointless if the system was the same as the Dáil.

sullivlo · 03-03-2016 11:18PM

vienne86 wrote: »

You're right - it makes no sense. Some graduates have no vote, some have one vote and some have two.......all based on what colleges they went to.

I have two degrees. Both from universities. However as DCU wasn't recognised as a university when the rules were made, I only get a vote on the TCD panel. It's weird though - I know of people with two or even three votes.

I think it's a ridiculous rule. One vote or none. I understand that you vote on the different panels but there should just be a "universities" panel rather than the individuals.

Is it elitist to only allow graduates to vote? Yes. Do I agree with it? The jury is still out. I think the Seanad needs a lot of reform because it has such potential, but I do think there needs to be a different way to elect it rather than through the general public. I think the general public have very much shown over the past few weeks that they can't be trusted with elections!!! (Tongue in cheek!)

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 03-03-2016 11:23PM

sullivlo wrote: »

I have two degrees. Both from universities. However as DCU wasn't recognised as a university when the rules were made, I only get a vote on the TCD panel. It's weird though - I know of people with two or even three votes.

How do you know whether you have a vote or not?

sullivlo · 03-03-2016 11:25PM

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

How do you know whether you have a vote or not?

When I was graduating from Trinity I got a form to fill out to put myself on the register of electors, and I got an email recently to say that my ballot papers would be sent out soon.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 03-03-2016 11:38PM

sullivlo wrote: »

When I was graduating from Trinity I got a form to fill out to put myself on the register of electors, and I got an email recently to say that my ballot papers would be sent out soon.

Was there an election for this recently? I feel like I might have voted in it but then maybe I'm just thinking of the referendum on it?

Must look into this.

sullivlo · 04-03-2016 12:44AM

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Was there an election for this recently? I feel like I might have voted in it but then maybe I'm just thinking of the referendum on it?

Must look into this.

No. The Seanad referendum is this year. April I think. Unless the Seanad election is only every 2/3 years? I don't know.

Off Topic Thread too point uh

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